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    Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers

    Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules

    EPA Secretly Changing MPG Numbers Ahead Of Cash For Clunkers, Screwing Consumers

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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    I get better MPG than this with my 15 year old Beater Baby Benz...it returns 24-26, in-town, and the I6, when you stomp on it, sounds pretty nice.

    I like intake roar.
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    Image of Saboth Saboth
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    Ahh I'm loving my new mpg with the elantra...averaging 31 around town and about 36 highway. Funny because the EPA gave it 23/31 with the new ratings.
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    Paul Y. don't drive too fast. promoted this comment Saboth was starred Saboth was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    09/29/09

    @Saboth: Good job!

    Any vehicle can be driven more efficiently than what the sticker claims, by simply giving a shit about how much fuel you use.
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    09/29/09

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: The new stickers are pretty easy to beat if you have ideal circumstances.

    I have typically beaten highway ratings pretty easily, but city ratings always seem optimistic to me, even with A/C off and very conservative driving.

    I still think both rating should be more objective. Like steady 20mph in 2nd gear (as a proxy for city) and steady 70mph in top gear (proxy for highway).
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    So, what will happen to these numbers in the next 5-10 years? Will it improve further, or will it stall due to the end of C4C?
    As an European these numbers really surprise me, as 23 mpg is almost considered a gas guzzler value here. Even for a gasoline powered mid sized car.
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    Flathead Smith Prefers the Days of Danger promoted this comment duurtlang was starred duurtlang was unstarred
    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    09/29/09

    @duurtlang: It’s all relative, over here when you drive an old truck or muscle car that gets around 11 mpg, 23 looks great.
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    Edited by Flathead Smith at 09/29/09 11:54 AM Flathead Smith was starred Flathead Smith was unstarred
    Image of Joshuman Joshuman
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    I bet hybrid-driving environmentalists think that 23 MPG figure is really weak.
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    Flathead Smith Prefers the Days of Danger promoted this comment Joshuman was starred Joshuman was unstarred
    Image of spuy767 spuy767
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    I'm not doing my job. I need to get my GTO back on the road.
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    Image of Triborough Triborough
    09/29/09

    In reply to Avg. New Vehicle MPG Soars In August, Thanks To Cash For Clunkers
    Can you say artificially inflated statistics?
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    Flathead Smith Prefers the Days of Danger promoted this comment Triborough was starred Triborough was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    09/29/09

    @Triborough: Why would these numbers be necessarily inflated? People were incentivezed to buy slightly more efficient cars than usual -- I fail to see why this would be in any way surprising.
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    Paul Y. don't drive too fast. was starred Paul Y. don't drive too fast. was unstarred
    Image of ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig.
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    That's easy. All we have to do is double the size of a gallon.
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    FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway promoted this comment ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. was starred ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. was unstarred
    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    35.5? We've almost got that already on this side of the pond. I'm quite sure it's way above 30 at this moment.
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    FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway promoted this comment duurtlang was starred duurtlang was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/15/09

    @duurtlang: You also have mass diesel availability, manual transmissions, and station wagons instead of Chelsea tractors.

    Britain gets two things right: car purchases (usually) and traffic lights. I love that yellow-before-green thing.
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    Edited by MushyHeirloom at 09/15/09 7:40 PM MushyHeirloom was starred MushyHeirloom was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    You know, if we just had safety and emissions standards that matched up with the rest of civilization, this would be a nonissue.
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    Image of TTopJohn TTopJohn
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Here's hoping for some loopholes big enough to drive a Suburban through. Or at least a Camaro SS...
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    AmishJohn promoted this comment TTopJohn was starred TTopJohn was unstarred
    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    09/15/09

    @TTopJohn: Nope, they're supposed to close the SUV loophole.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    40 MPG fleetwide by the time we run out of oil.
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    "The administration estimated the requirements would cost up to $1,300 per new vehicle by 2016 - but that it would take just three years to pay off that investment"

    Huh? W'ah? Um, I think if people don't feel that $1,300 on top of the price of the car is worth it, they just won't buy new cars and the auto companies won't be paying off that investment.
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    engineerd promoted this comment LoganSix was starred LoganSix was unstarred
    Image of engineerd engineerd
    09/15/09

    @LoganSix: Exactly why CAFE is a failure. It tries to force the carmakers to build cars that Congress -- not consumers in general -- want. If our government was really serious about this they would raise the gas tax*. However, this is considered political suicide, particularly at this time. Instead, they make the cowardly and politically expedient move of putting the onus on the car companies to ensure their sales meet some arbitrary average fuel economy regardless of what people will actually buy.

    *I don't support this, however if reducing fuel usage in this country is the goal, this is the way to do it.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Why not just round it up to an even 100 mpg.
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    Image of flipnut flipnut
    07/27/09

    In reply to EPA Secretly Changing MPG Numbers Ahead Of Cash For Clunkers, Screwing Consumers
    Dear Powers that Be, how about a hand out for the rest of us, you know the people with good credit, bought a home we can afford, pay our bills on time, and buy cars that don't suck and get good milage. WTF, where is our hand out.

    It's other peoples money and I want it now!!
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    Jeb_Hoge promoted this comment flipnut was starred flipnut was unstarred
    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    07/28/09

    @flipnut: Word UP. A few grand post-tax would be nice. That way I could replace my mailbox, service my car, get some branches trimmed, and add some pennies to my piggy bank. Call it a "good citizen award."
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    Image of skaven skaven
    07/28/09

    @flipnut: I have been preaching this amongst friends for the better part of a year.

    Being responsible does not pay, aparently.
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