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    Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
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    Image of Jason Kinnard Jason Kinnard
    11/06/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Fuckin stupid looking. Get a real car and forget this crap! #chrisradosciontc
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    Sloop_John_B promoted this comment Jason Kinnard was starred Jason Kinnard was unstarred
    Image of Sloop_John_B Sloop_John_B
    11/06/09

    @Jason Kinnard: Ahhhh, yes. So stupid looking negates reality. Damn I wish that was the case for that craptastic Neon I used to own. I'd just slap a giant wing on it and POOF...it would cease to be real. What a novel idea. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of SubieBlast SubieBlast
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    This reminds me of the Killer "B"s and Grnad AM Racing where anything goes. We need more race series where you can run whatever the hell you feel like. #chrisradosciontc
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    area_educator promoted this comment SubieBlast was starred SubieBlast was unstarred
    Image of area_educator area_educator
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Every time this comes up, the comments destroy a little more of my faith in Jalopanity.

    The same jerkholes who smugly point out the limited utility of rear spoilers on FWD cars start whining about how terrible this is.

    And then there's "Why not just get a RWD car?" Why have restrictions on engine size, why race vintage cars, why race $500 LeMons instead of racing proper F1 cars?

    The car itself, however, is awesomely ridiculous and helps restore my faith in Jalopanity. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Function over form. He's a true gear head. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of bzr bzr
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    But think of the benefits! All those Russian pirate radio stations he could tune into! #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of z0iid z0iid
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    I love all of the commenters who think this is "absurd" or "retarded". Please show me the track records YOU have. k thx. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Are we sure it's the FWD he's compensating for? That's a mighty big "wing". #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    That's some plain ol' ugly ass awesome right there. It's assome. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of freds4hb freds4hb
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD

    We shall never forget how stupid this can get. Never forget the Arrows! #chrisradosciontc
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment freds4hb was starred freds4hb was unstarred
    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD

    These guys laugh are your so-called 'modification'. #chrisradosciontc
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    Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was starred Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) was unstarred
    Image of JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2 JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2
    11/05/09

    @Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): what in the what? #chrisradosciontc
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    bzr promoted this comment JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2 was starred JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2 was unstarred
    Image of Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe) Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
    11/05/09


    @JawzX2: Hoon The Earth @ www.cafepress.com/jawzx2: It's a supermodified... V8 engine mounted practically mid-point between the two left-side tires (on the driver's left) at an angle. Whole body and mechanicals on the left of centerline. (Or, perhaps more accurately, right side tires extended out about 2 feet.) Even the nosewing has been setup so that it's far longer on the right than the left. Just a 'compare and contrast' if you will. This photo shows one guy's attempt at a 3-on-the-right, 1-on-the-left supermodified "back in the day". #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of wheatieboy wheatieboy
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD

    Winning doesn't have to be pretty. If he's winning, he's doing something right.. Screw logic and pretty.
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment Edited by wheatieboy at 11/05/09 11:42 AM wheatieboy was starred wheatieboy was unstarred
    Image of okidokedork okidokedork
    11/05/09

    @wheatieboy: Exactly, this guy wanted to push the limit and reaped the rewards. Good for him, I think it's pretty awesome. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    900 hp from that 2.4 I4 is impressive. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Isn't there a more elegant solution that performs the same function? A differently shaped front hood? A more aggressive front lip? Other aerodynamic components?

    And if you're going through all this trouble why not just simplify things and get a RWD car? #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of AddysDaddy AddysDaddy
    11/05/09

    @MaWeiTao: Maybe you missed the "... holds a handful of FWD track records." part. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of mytdawg mytdawg
    11/05/09

    @MaWeiTao: I was thinking tractor wheel weights... That's probably one of the many reasons I'm not a racer. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of pres pres
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Personally, I can't wait to see these wings on the street after F&F 5 comes out. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of lissyssil lissyssil
    11/05/09

    In reply to Huge Front Wing Compensates For Scion tC’s FWD
    Of the reasons given for RWD being "better" than FWD, one of the more common ones heard around the garage is "In an FWD car, you're using the powered wheels for both turning and putting power to the ground."

    For the purposes of this post, let's limit the discussion to this statement, and I pose to you, oh mighty jalop-o-mmunity, what if I built a FWD car, equipped only with rear-steer?

    Pros/Cons?

    Has it ever been done before?

    Discuss. #chrisradosciontc
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    FTGDWolverineEdition'09 promoted this comment lissyssil was starred lissyssil was unstarred
    Image of omg grip omg grip
    11/05/09

    @lissyssil: ever driven a Rwd car quickly in reverse and then tried to steer in a controllable fashion?

    You can lose control right quick.

    Perfect for a quick 180 degree turn though. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of WOT WOT
    11/05/09

    @lissyssil: Rear wheel steering is inherently unstable statically and dynamically so you will just spin out and be off track most of the time. #chrisradosciontc
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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    11/05/09

    @lissyssil: I suspect that a lot (most? all?) of the mentioning of instability is based in experience reversing a conventional car, rather than in any analysis of the fundamentals of steering a vehicle from the rear.

    In the case of a conventional car in reverse, your steering wheels are running negative trail and do not self-center-- instead, they'll tend to swing towards greater lock.

    Obviously, if one were to do as lissy suggests, one would implement a rear steering system with positive trail (like the front wheels have now).

    Would that design be inherently less stable? I don't know, but it's not like boats and airplanes are crashing all over the place whenever a pilot even thinks about turning. #chrisradosciontc
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