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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Man this car would be rad! Anyone got the weight of this compared to the GT?
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I am impressed, Ford. Give it IRS and you might actually have a new customer in me. There are few cars on the road today that consistently make me smile when I see them as much as these do. I like this quite a lot.

    You can keep the 19s, though. That's a bit much. I'd like to be able to still walk upright when I'm 40.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I'm surprised the 3.7 does't have DI as that seems to be the latest "gotta have" in the engine biz now. At any rate, 305hp and 30mpg is impressive (slightly better than the Camaro's new V6). Makes me wonder how much V8 pony car sales will suffer due to the availability of serious V6s now?

    This is a huge improvement over my '06 V6 convert. I'm thinking trade-up in two years.
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    brandegee promoted this comment Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/30/09 10:08 AM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: Like Ben said, it's a punched-out 3.5, but he didn't mention that the Duratec 37 has been on the market for a while now as a Cyclone engine producing less power and torque in Lincolns and Mazdas. The power jump is probably from beefed up internals...the rev limit for the 'stang is 250 rpm higher.

    Ford would have hit this one out of the ballpark by installing the DI TwinForce, but then good-bye V8 and good-bye low price tag.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @brandegee: VVT makes the difference more than the internals, but there's other stuff added too. I forgot to mention the oil squirters for the bottom of the pistons, but it's got those too.
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    Image of H. Mushman H. Mushman
    11/30/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Oil squiters make my inner mechanic happy.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @H. Mushman: Also help them to keep the pistons cool and ward off pre-detonation.
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    Image of H. Mushman H. Mushman
    11/30/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: You ever get my email Ben?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @H. Mushman: I have 11,442 unread emails in my inbox. Resend it with some kind of identifying marker and I'll see what you have to say.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    This is the kind of thing that just says; suck it Camaro.

    Response awaited.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: From the international house of whatever GM fanboys remain after the carpocalypse debacle:

    The Camaro had Megan Fox slathered all over it. The Mustang's recent claim to fame? It was driven by a blind guy.

    Suck it, Mustang.

    Reponse awaited.

    (Seriously, though, I would love one of these.)
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    Edited by pauljones at 11/30/09 10:14 AM pauljones was starred pauljones was unstarred
    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Camaro can have its not-even-sixteen Transformers fan boys, Mustang can stick with the people who know what a government bailout is, and how Ford (Maker of Mustang) did not get one.

    Oh I went there.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Jerk! You made me spill my coffee! :)

    I am twenty-three years old and a fan of both the Transformers toys I played with as a child and Megan Fox, whom I would like to play with now.

    And besides, Ford didn't get a bailout because there was nothing to bailout in the first place, as Mulally had already mortgaged everything out.

    And the Mustang? Still not hearing anything that can better having Megan Fox draped all over the Camaro.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I really can't argue with Transformers. What with the whole Megan Fox thing.

    As for the Mustang, there will always be countless images of ho-bags "draped" over black Fox Bodies. No Megan Fox, but I can pretend. I can pretend.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: If Ford were to find an excuse to drape Kristin Kreuk all over the Mustang, however, I could be convinced to change sides.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I'll tell Ford to get right on that as soon as they answer my requests to bring back power seat belts, and the Ford Tempo.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I'd go with the more realistic option, which is definitely a Mustang commercial with Kristin Kreuk.

    Besides, power seat belts sucked, especially when the little motors failed, which they did quite frequently.
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    Image of ha1156w ha1156w
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Additionally, Ford didn't take bailout money because doing so would require that dividends on shares held be suspended -- there goes the income for a good chunk of the Ford family! They didn't want to interrupt their income stream. Smart actually.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I hear Elin Nordegren might be looking for a new gig. She comes with her own set of clubs too...
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    pauljones promoted this comment Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Hey now, over two decades down the road and my '89 still has the original motors in both belts. They are both smooth and silent, and move at the same constant speed. The problem is, Mr. Pauljones hasn't driven enough Tempo. Fix that!
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Also, chicks dig 'em. Its the one feature of my car that really is memorable to the common female.
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    Image of LS1RX7owen LS1RX7owen
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: yes yes if I may intervene here, I think you are right on the money for a new Ford Ad campaign, slathering Kristin Kreuk all over v6 stangs in assorted colors and in warm climate areas of course... mmmmm
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: Who?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @LS1RX7owen: I wouldn't mind a few rainy pics, either. Such an ad campaign would quickly turn my Corvette Red blood Ford Blue.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Mrs Tiger Woods?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: I'll have to look that up when I get home from work. In the meantime, I'm going to stick with the known quantity.
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    Image of McLawdog McLawdog
    11/30/09

    @pauljones:
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    pauljones promoted this comment McLawdog was starred McLawdog was unstarred
    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @McLawdog: That's what pauljones is talking about.

    Her + 2011 Mustang = Win of all time.
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    Image of McLawdog McLawdog
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I'd die a happy man with that combination..
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Thank you, Ben, for starting my morning off right. Too bad the rest of the day is going to suck. If you happen to have any more good stories like this, can I request that you space them out throughout the day, so that when I lose all hope for a moment, I can come here and see a fresh, awesome new post like this?
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    This is a good looking, and now much better performing car. I'd take this over a Camaro, although that is more dragon-friendly.

    All this one-up-manship totally benefits consumers.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Mustang sucks! It's not a V8! It has only 305hp! It's got a live axle, fer chrissake!

    So sums up the obligatory Mustang whining we get here. Having gotten that out of the way, I applaud Ford for making the V6 car a contender and a real alternative to the V8.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    You know, I was worried about my choice of rides when the Carpocalypse got the G8 GXP cancelled. And I got even more worried when everyone talked about going to V6's. But this rocks. You can say what you want, that engine up there is a work of art. I am going to have to drive one of these, and see if the new manual and track pack live up to the hype. Just wow.
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    Image of grzydj grzydj
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I'm not going to buy a pony car because it gets good fuel economy, especially if it has a whispy sounding V6. Yuck.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @grzydj: Actually, they fired the car up for us in a sneak preview and it sounds pretty damn good.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I've never been a huge Mustang fan, but this is actually very impressive.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I love Duratecs. I still see some of the common features from the 2.5L in my Contour, so I'm hoping the 3.7L is as rev-happy and snarly as the original. This sounds like an awesome combo and makes the Mustang that much more compelling to me.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: Lots of love for the Duratec here, mine was a Mondeo 2.5 and at sounded just like an Alfa when you gave it the berries.

    But a Mustang without a V8 bellow is too much like decaffienated coffee...
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Clearly, someone has forgotten about the SVO Mustang.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: You take that back! A blown four is clearly the exception to the rule.

    (I was reading my '87 Thunderbird brochure yesterday, blown four in a t-bird. Oooyeah)
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: There's been an SVO for sale in my area for a while now. Looks clean and sorted, but I'm poor as a church mouse. I'd have it as a weekend car otherwise.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: Aerobirds for the win.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: That's always the worst, isn't it?

    The instant that something desirable is finally for sale, you can't have it because it's for sale either right after or right before you can afford it, and by the time you can afford it again, it's off the market and long gone.

    I feel the same way about condos right now. I had enough for a 30% down payment on a $430k condo, and then my stock portfolio, which I was only a month or two away from ditching in favor of the down payment money, went kaput. Coincidentally, the condo I wanted was reduced in price to $390k and sold, while I am still in the poor house for the foreseeable future (my stocks won't recover for a while).

    Being twenty-something and single sucks donkey balls.
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Could have warned me that was NSFW before I scrolled down.. Need a cold shower.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Rust-MyEnemy: My life story is NSFW?
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    Image of Rust-MyEnemy Rust-MyEnemy
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: This is why MSN chat doesn't work, the out-of-sequence replies.

    Don't worry, being twenty-something, in a relationship and without two quid to rub together sucks similar equine appendages
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    Image of LS1RX7owen LS1RX7owen
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: actually since you are young and single I'm surprised you havent decided to venture into the donkey ball sucking video production market, I hear its very profitable. ($430k condo, holy LOL!)
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    11/30/09

    @LS1RX7owen: I suppose I could always make a video documentary of life, spin it as an emo-intellectual statement of the flaws of contemporary society, show it at some white-wine sipping indie film fest, and make millions.

    Also, I live in SoCal. $430k is not abnormal in many areas.
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    11/30/09

    @pauljones: hey just because its not abnormal does it make it right? and I applaud your video idea, go for it!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Ecoboost it! Let's make the 8 the irrational choice.

    The 6 keeps with the 8 because it's been to Rush Fitness Center and now has a lot less flab to drag around. Lighten the nose, it tucks better into corners. 300hp with a lighter curb weight keeps the power-to-weight ratio about the same, but it handles better with the track pack? Yeah, I'd skip the 8.
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    Image of pj134 pj134
    11/30/09

    @Elhigh: how about they twin turbo both of em?
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    Elhigh promoted this comment pj134 was starred pj134 was unstarred
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    11/30/09

    @pj134: I'm too addicted to high fuel efficiency. If I can have monster power when I want it, and tight-fisted thriftiness the rest of the time, I couldn't care less what the V8 achieves.
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    11/30/09

    @Elhigh: Do they hand out oxycodone at that place?
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    Elhigh promoted this comment blueplate was starred blueplate was unstarred
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    11/30/09

    @blueplate: Clientele bring their own.
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    11/30/09

    @Elhigh: a 600 hp factory mustang would be kinda cool though...
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    11/30/09

    @pj134: That would cause quite a storm. ?
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/30/09

    @pj134: At that power level, I don't want it to look like a Mustang. How about a GT that gets 30 on the highway?
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    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    1000%, pretty impressive. ---
    Until you see how much weight they had to throw at it to dampen the cowl shake...
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    Ben Wojdyla promoted this comment GrandmaSideways was starred GrandmaSideways was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @GrandmaSideways: The additional weight to reduce cowl shake is more or less offset by the heft loss in the engine and transmissions, the car ends up pretty much the weighing the same. And keep in mind, that was for the convertible.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    So in 2012 we'll see: 1) this engine, 2) ecoboost v6, 3) 5.0L v8, 4) ecoboost 5.0L v8, 5) 6.2L v8? All on the same chassis from 2005.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Fine, the new convertible is 1000% stiffer than the old convertible, but what percentage of the hardtop's stiffness is it?
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