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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    12/07/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    Whoa. These shots are approaching classic status.

    The strip that contains the Studebaker seems to have a constant rotation of cool classics. I'm trying to figure out who lives there that keeps owning oddball classics for 3-4 months at a time.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    Fantastic shots, Mr. Science. FWIW, the Jaaaag is a Series II, as it has the tombstone shaped taillights. (Series IIIs had larger, multicolored lenses.)
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    I think the Studebaker might be the only thing I'd be truly surprised to see, but all of these are well worth documenting - and hell, well worth owning. I'd go for the Cadillac or perhaps the Suburban or C10, as better mechanical minds than I could do so much more to the others.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    The Chevy pickup is a '69, while the Suburban is a '71 or '72 (those two years were all but identical in appearance). The Ranchero is a '64. As others have said, the hearse is a '69. The real prize here is the Stude pickup.
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    Image of DrLemming DrLemming
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    The Studebaker pickup is interesting. In the 1940s and early 50s Studebaker was a real contender in the light-truck field. However, once the company almost went out of business in 1956-58, it was only able to field a light truck by scrounging around in its parts bin.

    By the early 1960s the most modern cab they had available was from the compact Lark. Alas, Studebaker apparently thought that no one would want a compact-sized truck bed, so they pushed out the corners -- stylistic consistency be damned. Then they jacked up the height and added the world's biggest bumper and a charming cow-catcher grille.

    A smaller but nicely styled truck might have sold a bit better.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    12/06/09

    @DrLemming: As you suggest, Studebaker was already running on empty by this stage, and it had used just about all of its remaining resources on the temporarily-successful 1959 Lark. The best they could do to modernize their pickups was to slap a Lark body on the existing 1949-vintage light-truck chassis. An all-new small truck was probably impossible under the circumstances. Once the Lark faded in 1961, there was nothing left to do except shoestring-budget facelifts of existing vehicles and a desperate roll-of-the-dice called the Avanti.
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    Image of Buster Brew Buster Brew
    12/06/09

    @DrLemming: The reason the bed does not quite seem to fit is because the fleetside bed was sourced from Dodge. The bed is wider than the compact Lark based cab.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    12/06/09

    @Buster Brew: Yep... and it looks like it's a utility bed.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    65 Fury. Very close in appearance to the 66, but noticeable bar across the grille, halfway up. The I - III were trim plus style and power issues. The III was the deluxe one, I was the plain jane. Big engines, 2 doors mostly the III, more lights on the rear, etc.
    But that Lark-nose Stude truck is the bomb. I cannot even remember the last time I saw one of them.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    Yep, the hearse is a '70.

    If only a Jalopnik regular had access to a large flatbed wrecker.

    Wait...

    ROADTRIP!!!
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    Image of doug-g doug-g
    12/06/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: No, the hearse is definately a '69. Check the front and the tail lights.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/06/09

    @doug-g:

    I must be getting forgetful, 'cause I'd swear that's a '70 front end...though the tail lights do look like '69.
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    Image of doug-g doug-g
    12/06/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Here's the 1970. Notice the horizonal chrome trim on the parking/cornering lamps? Also, the headlamp bezels are painted and there are winged crests on the fender tips. They dropped the "V" under the crest in '70-'71 but, that's not a deal maker because it pissed some people off and they had the dealer install one.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/06/09

    @doug-g: Thanks for refreshing my memory!

    It's been a while since I followed these very closely. My wife said my car must get double-digit MPG.

    :-(
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    Image of robai robai
    12/07/09

    I used to drive a 1970 white convertible DeVille - I named her Cruella because of the brutal things that a car the size of a (19ft long) victorian house with a 472 under the hood will do to you when it goes haywire.
    Oh so comfortable though.
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment robai was starred robai was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/07/09

    @robai:

    Nice.

    Cruella Deville.

    Mine was a '73 Coupe deVille...nicknamed by others Yellow Submarine.

    I just called it The Yacht.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/06/09

    In reply to Mad_Science Brings Us A Los Angeles DOTS-O-Rama!
    Nice collection. Hard to argue with your endpoints: a falcon convertible and a Sudebaker pickup. And they look to have lots more years in them.
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Man this car would be rad! Anyone got the weight of this compared to the GT?
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I am impressed, Ford. Give it IRS and you might actually have a new customer in me. There are few cars on the road today that consistently make me smile when I see them as much as these do. I like this quite a lot.

    You can keep the 19s, though. That's a bit much. I'd like to be able to still walk upright when I'm 40.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    I'm surprised the 3.7 does't have DI as that seems to be the latest "gotta have" in the engine biz now. At any rate, 305hp and 30mpg is impressive (slightly better than the Camaro's new V6). Makes me wonder how much V8 pony car sales will suffer due to the availability of serious V6s now?

    This is a huge improvement over my '06 V6 convert. I'm thinking trade-up in two years.
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    brandegee promoted this comment Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/30/09 10:08 AM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: Like Ben said, it's a punched-out 3.5, but he didn't mention that the Duratec 37 has been on the market for a while now as a Cyclone engine producing less power and torque in Lincolns and Mazdas. The power jump is probably from beefed up internals...the rev limit for the 'stang is 250 rpm higher.

    Ford would have hit this one out of the ballpark by installing the DI TwinForce, but then good-bye V8 and good-bye low price tag.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @brandegee: VVT makes the difference more than the internals, but there's other stuff added too. I forgot to mention the oil squirters for the bottom of the pistons, but it's got those too.
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    Image of H. Mushman H. Mushman
    11/30/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Oil squiters make my inner mechanic happy.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @H. Mushman: Also help them to keep the pistons cool and ward off pre-detonation.
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    Image of H. Mushman H. Mushman
    11/30/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: You ever get my email Ben?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/30/09

    @H. Mushman: I have 11,442 unread emails in my inbox. Resend it with some kind of identifying marker and I'll see what you have to say.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    This is the kind of thing that just says; suck it Camaro.

    Response awaited.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: From the international house of whatever GM fanboys remain after the carpocalypse debacle:

    The Camaro had Megan Fox slathered all over it. The Mustang's recent claim to fame? It was driven by a blind guy.

    Suck it, Mustang.

    Reponse awaited.

    (Seriously, though, I would love one of these.)
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    Edited by pauljones at 11/30/09 10:14 AM pauljones was starred pauljones was unstarred
    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Camaro can have its not-even-sixteen Transformers fan boys, Mustang can stick with the people who know what a government bailout is, and how Ford (Maker of Mustang) did not get one.

    Oh I went there.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Jerk! You made me spill my coffee! :)

    I am twenty-three years old and a fan of both the Transformers toys I played with as a child and Megan Fox, whom I would like to play with now.

    And besides, Ford didn't get a bailout because there was nothing to bailout in the first place, as Mulally had already mortgaged everything out.

    And the Mustang? Still not hearing anything that can better having Megan Fox draped all over the Camaro.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I really can't argue with Transformers. What with the whole Megan Fox thing.

    As for the Mustang, there will always be countless images of ho-bags "draped" over black Fox Bodies. No Megan Fox, but I can pretend. I can pretend.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: If Ford were to find an excuse to drape Kristin Kreuk all over the Mustang, however, I could be convinced to change sides.
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I'll tell Ford to get right on that as soon as they answer my requests to bring back power seat belts, and the Ford Tempo.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I'd go with the more realistic option, which is definitely a Mustang commercial with Kristin Kreuk.

    Besides, power seat belts sucked, especially when the little motors failed, which they did quite frequently.
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    Image of ha1156w ha1156w
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Additionally, Ford didn't take bailout money because doing so would require that dividends on shares held be suspended -- there goes the income for a good chunk of the Ford family! They didn't want to interrupt their income stream. Smart actually.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I hear Elin Nordegren might be looking for a new gig. She comes with her own set of clubs too...
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Hey now, over two decades down the road and my '89 still has the original motors in both belts. They are both smooth and silent, and move at the same constant speed. The problem is, Mr. Pauljones hasn't driven enough Tempo. Fix that!
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Also, chicks dig 'em. Its the one feature of my car that really is memorable to the common female.
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    Image of LS1RX7owen LS1RX7owen
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: yes yes if I may intervene here, I think you are right on the money for a new Ford Ad campaign, slathering Kristin Kreuk all over v6 stangs in assorted colors and in warm climate areas of course... mmmmm
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: Who?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @LS1RX7owen: I wouldn't mind a few rainy pics, either. Such an ad campaign would quickly turn my Corvette Red blood Ford Blue.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: Mrs Tiger Woods?
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: I'll have to look that up when I get home from work. In the meantime, I'm going to stick with the known quantity.
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    Image of McLawdog McLawdog
    11/30/09

    @pauljones:
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    pauljones promoted this comment McLawdog was starred McLawdog was unstarred
    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    @McLawdog: That's what pauljones is talking about.

    Her + 2011 Mustang = Win of all time.
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    Image of McLawdog McLawdog
    11/30/09

    @pauljones: I'd die a happy man with that combination..
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Thank you, Ben, for starting my morning off right. Too bad the rest of the day is going to suck. If you happen to have any more good stories like this, can I request that you space them out throughout the day, so that when I lose all hope for a moment, I can come here and see a fresh, awesome new post like this?
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    This is a good looking, and now much better performing car. I'd take this over a Camaro, although that is more dragon-friendly.

    All this one-up-manship totally benefits consumers.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/30/09

    In reply to 2011 Ford Mustang Gets New 305 HP V6, 30 MPG
    Mustang sucks! It's not a V8! It has only 305hp! It's got a live axle, fer chrissake!

    So sums up the obligatory Mustang whining we get here. Having gotten that out of the way, I applaud Ford for making the V6 car a contender and a real alternative to the V8.
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