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    Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion

    Hybrid Car Wars: Honda Insight Vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid

    McCain Tweets Ford Fusion Hybrid Purchase Plans

    Ford Warns Against Nigerian Princes Selling Cheap Fusion Hybrids

    NASCAR Star Drives Ford Fusion Hybrid Slowly, Gets 1,445.7 Miles On Single Gas Tank

    New Prius Vs. Fusion Hybrid Vs. Honda Insight: Which Hybrid Should You Buy?

    AT&T To Buy 15,000 Hybrid, Natural Gas-Powered Vehicles From Ford

    Ford CEO Calls Man To Thank Him For Buying Fusion Hybrid Over Prius

    2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Qualifies For $3,400 Federal Hybrid Tax Credit

    Cadillac Converj Spotted Cruising Cobo, Posing With Ford Fusion Hybrid

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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/19/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    Really? Bleh.

    Then again, I've never really agreed with MT's choices.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I like the Fusion a lot, but is it car of the year material? It's not even all new. I really don't know what Motor Trend is thinking on these "____ Of the Year" awards anymore. They either pick the the lamest, most economical vehicle in the pool (Outback was SUV of the year, WTF?) or something completely ridiculous and irrelevant to most buyers (GTR last year).

    I do not miss my subscription to that magazine. #fordfusion
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    11/17/09

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face: They have stated in past articles that it has to be considered "significant changes to the vehicle" not necessarily All-new.

    Too much gray area. #fordfusion
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    If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face promoted this comment PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was starred PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 was unstarred
    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/17/09

    @PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287: Yeah, that's true. And despite 20+ pages of write up about how they chose the winner, the result is usually pretty bogus. At least they combined it with Import COTY about a decade back, preventing crap like the '97 Malibu, '93 Probe and '88 Grand Prix from winning. Seriously, the list of previous winners is a great big cavalcade of suck.

    Also, I can't wait to see what the '10 Truck of the Year is. Did anybody even come out with a new truck this year? That's got to be the most bogus award of all.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I particularly like the fact that this is a domestic that has pretty nice styling AND the underpinnings to make it worth driving. Ford has to be the domestic with the most on the ball lately. #fordfusion
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    Image of zeeboid zeeboid
    11/18/09

    @DoctorNine: the foreign automobile fanbois aren't going to like to hear people say that.

    why don't you take your love for America and...

    nope, can't do it. I can't even pretend to be a foreign car loving person. #fordfusion
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/18/09

    @zeeboid: I'm kind of a mix. I drive mostly high end cars of many manufacturers. But I really admire great engineering; the kind where the synergy of the design reaches an orgasm of driving enjoyment. It doesn't matter where the design comes from.

    But I don't think people who look at automobiles as some kind of statement of nationalistic pride are really paying attention. No mass manufactured vehicle today is a pristine product of only one country. As such, the global origin of the things makes 'national pride' arguments sort of like Mexican Wrestling. Everyone is wearing a mask, and the moves are choreographed for fan enjoyment.

    But this is a good car. No excess baggage with that simple observation.
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    11/18/09

    @DoctorNine: "But I don't think people who look at automobiles as some kind of statement of nationalistic pride are really paying attention"

    I agree with you there. never quite understood why some of the manufactures just can't quite go that little extra mile. example: The 300c and Chargers not having a 6sp, some of the leather in cars obviously inferior, etc.

    "As such, the global origin of the things makes 'national pride' arguments sort of like Mexican Wrestling"

    Not so much there. even with that, many fail to take into account all the R&D to get acar to where it is going (90ish % of which is spent within the country of origin) not to mention where the profit is going (country of origin once again) simply put, the company has more invested (in all respects) in its home country, and the home country benifits most from that company's success.

    don't get me wrong, I am all for a global marketplace, and competition. (without competition, you have ntohing but crap because there is no encouragement to do better.)

    And I have never purchased a NEW car so I have never practiced what I preached (Though the only foreign machines i've ever had have been 3/3 motorcycles and 0/15 cars. I have not yet been able to afford a Victory, and Harley Davidsons are too much like Puppies for me (leaving a puddle wherever they go))
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    11/18/09

    @DoctorNine: "But I don't think people who look at automobiles as some kind of statement of nationalistic pride are really paying attention"

    I agree with you there. never quite understood why some of the manufactures just can't quite go that little extra mile. example: The 300c and Chargers not having a 6sp, some of the leather in cars obviously inferior, etc.

    "As such, the global origin of the things makes 'national pride' arguments sort of like Mexican Wrestling"

    Not so much there. even with that, many fail to take into account all the R&D to get acar to where it is going (90ish % of which is spent within the country of origin) not to mention where the profit is going (country of origin once again) simply put, the company has more invested (in all respects) in its home country, and the home country benifits most from that company's success.

    don't get me wrong, I am all for a global marketplace, and competition. (without competition, you have ntohing but crap because there is no encouragement to do better.)

    And I have never purchased a NEW car so I have never practiced what I preached (Though the only foreign machines i've ever had have been 3/3 motorcycles and 0/15 cars. I have not yet been able to afford a Victory, and Harley Davidsons are too much like Puppies for me (leaving a puddle wherever they go))
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    MotorTrend can go to hell, but the Fusion can go to hell and back. I've yet to hear about any bad news from owners up here, and that's saying something.

    If a car can handle Alaska, it can pretty much handle anything. #fordfusion
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: That's not trial by fire, it's trial by frost heave. And mile upon mile of frozen tundra.

    I'm originally from Minnesota, so I kinda know where you're coming from, but around there if you get stuck in a drift help will be by probably within a week. For you guys, spring.

    Maybe. #fordfusion
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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/17/09

    @Elhigh: Which is why its a good thing me, and most of Alaska's natives, choose Ford Tempos for their daily drivers. Those things put almost everything else to shame in the snow, while being reliable enough to get you home and back.

    I speak from experience. ;) #fordfusion
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    Image of Flathead  Smith Flathead Smith
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I remember in the early eighties when Motor Trend named the Renault AMC Alliance as Car of the Year. I never trusted their judgment after that. #fordfusion
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    11/17/09

    @Flathead Smith: Yeah. I almost bought one of those things too. --shudders-- #fordfusion
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    Image of Brian Brian
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I bought my '10 Fusion a couple months back. With less than 2500 miles on the clock , it's a bit too early to be certain but so far I have not suffered the slightest twinge of buyer's remorse.

    I bought a black SE with the 2.5 ltr I4 and MS Synch, sunroof and parking sensors (it was a package, I think). I opted for the I4 for the mileage (I've consistently seen 31-32mpg on the hwy) and had no need for the AWD (I live in Southern California, after all), I am amazed at how well the I4 and 6-speed slush box motivates the Fusion. I'm absolutely thrilled with the way the car drives. The lighter weight mil gives the car better balance than the V6 version and the car handles much better than I had hoped, feeling quite planted in the curves. When I tested the V6 it felt a bit nose-heavy. The only feature I wish the car had is "manual mode" for the slushie.

    So yeah, good on ya Ford! Don't worry about the Camcord out selling this car. Keep up the good work and that won't last.
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    Too bad.

    Not that it wins Car of the Year - just the Motor Trend association. #fordfusion
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I guess this means Ford dumped the most ad money on OdorRend. #fordfusion
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    I've always had a soft spot for the Fusion, if anything the Milan version is even ever more slightly better. The first time I've said that about a Mercury in years.

    I say good for them. One of the first new age Ford cars to come out of Ford NA. #fordfusion
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    Now I want to see Ford sweep it with Truck of the Year (Transit)!

    That'll get me $300 in the office pool. In the imaginary office where people care about cars instead of sports, anyway.
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    Image of Wunno Sev Wunno Sev
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978: Transit Connect, I assume? Those are so cute. I get excited when I see them. #fordfusion
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    11/17/09

    @Wunno Sev: Yep...I don't think the full-sized Transit is headed to the US anytime soon, if at all.

    You've seen one in person Stateside? #fordfusion
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    11/17/09

    @Wunno Sev:

    Are you in the US?

    I haven't even seen one, and I'm in Detroit (granted I'm not frequently in the Dearborn area any more). #fordfusion
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978:
    Amalgamated Sports Hater? #fordfusion
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    11/17/09

    @Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm: I love sports, just not the spectator part :P #fordfusion
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978: My local Ford store (CO) had two....sold one; the other is still on the lot. #fordfusion
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978: I sat in a Transit Connect at SEMA and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. I know it's meant to be a commercial vehicle, but the fit and finish of the interior plastics was pretty poor.

    It was quite a letdown since I liked the idea of it so much. #fordfusion
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    Image of Wunno Sev Wunno Sev
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978: I have seen a few around the butt-end of Manhattan. There's at least one white one and one black one that live around here. Probably more than one whitey but I've never been diligent enough to compare door labels. #fordfusion
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    11/17/09

    @RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: I've also seen a Fiesta Movement Fiesta, so perhaps my neck of the woods is blessed with Alan's fairy dust. #fordfusion
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    Image of Brian Brian
    11/17/09

    @Amalgamated Stainless Headers, est.1978:

    I test drove one when I was shopping for the Fusion. I was so damned enamored with the TC that I almost bought one instead of my car. I can't think of a more utilitarian vehicle out there. The fusion had it beat as a commuter though. Since I accumulate the majority of my miles driving to and from work, the Fusion won by a hair. #fordfusion
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/17/09

    @RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: I've seen a couple, and I'm in E. TN.

    None in Detroit? Weird. #fordfusion
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    11/17/09

    @Wunno Sev: I've seen a few of the Fiesta's too, they're pretty cool for a tiny car.

    I used to see all the "Dearborn" vehicles early, now I see all the Warren tech center ones. #fordfusion
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    There was a lot of competition out there this year. It was definitely a very close shave. #fordfusion
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    Image of Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm Tiberiuswise is all ate up with sarcasm
    11/17/09

    @YankBoffin:
    You could say it's the best a man can get. #fordfusion
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    Image of FlakJack FlakJack
    11/17/09

    @YankBoffin: The winning margin was razor thin. #fordfusion
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/17/09

    @FlakJack: True but with all the on-board Sensors and it's Braun, it Edged out the competition, even though it isn't as bold as the Mach3 concept. #fordfusion
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    Image of Joe Valasek Joe Valasek
    11/17/09

    @KeyserSoze:
    There's even a battery powered Fusion. #fordfusion
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/17/09

    @Joe Valasek: yeah, but the range sucks... #fordfusion
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    Image of Joe Valasek Joe Valasek
    11/17/09

    @KeyserSoze:
    I can't even go a week without replacing the blades. #fordfusion
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    Image of skierpage skierpage
    11/18/09

    @YankBoffin: The 2011 Ford Fusion model refresh will add protective Microfins below the grille and an enhanced Indicator lubricating strip across the lip of the hood.
    (/me wants photochop skills).

    I prefer the Hyundai Excel shave engineering, whether 2-blade or Sensor 3-bladed, to the Mustang Mach 3 for my lesbian bits; the Fusion 5-blade is ridiculous.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/17/09

    In reply to Motor Trend Car Of The Year: 2010 Ford Fusion
    Zing! Funny, Ray.

    I found this handy list of COY winners for your continued amusement. Renault Alliance!

    [www.motortrend.com] #fordfusion
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    11/17/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: 1972 Citroen SM. It's Italian, It's French, It's FWD. The only thing it needs is a pickup bed. Thank You Jerry Hathaway for making that last part complete. [users.skynet.be] #fordfusion
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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    11/17/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Why go back that far when there's the Chevy Malibu in '97? #fordfusion
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    Image of stephdumas stephdumas
    11/17/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: don't forget the 1971 Chevy Vega ;-)

    And more trivia on the table ;-) the previous winners of the NA COTY [en.wikipedia.org]
    Canadian COTY [en.wikipedia.org]
    International COTY from Road & Travel magazine [en.wikipedia.org]
    Automobile's magazine Al-stars
    [en.wikipedia.org] #fordfusion
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    11/17/09

    @PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287: Back when I travelled more for work, my Hertz profile specified "no Malibus." #fordfusion
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    07/02/09

    In reply to Hybrid Car Wars: Honda Insight Vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid
    Truly budget minded new car shoppers don't buy Hybrids anyway.


    If someone wants to be noticed, they'll buy an Insight or Prius. If they want a fancy comfy car they can say is also a Hybrid, they'll buy hybrid versions of Fusion or Camry.


    Most buyers on the proverbial hybrid 'fence' would be less alienated by the Fusion.

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    Image of Big Red Big Red
    07/01/09

    In reply to Hybrid Car Wars: Honda Insight Vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid
    Wes, from what I read, I am assuming that you would recommend a standard (non hybrid) Fusion over all 3 of the hybrid options?


    I would have to say that option seems the most reasonable so I am curious as to what you think, considering you've driven all of the hybrids back to back.

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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    07/01/09

    @Big Red: I really like the bargain basement fusion with the 2.5 and the manual. If you're going to go ahead and get leather and an auto, you might as well get the hybrid.
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    Image of mzs mzs
    07/01/09

    In reply to Hybrid Car Wars: Honda Insight Vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid
    Wes, in terms of driving dynamics, would you say the new Prius is:


    much better

    slightly better

    about the same

    slightly worse

    much worse


    than the New Insight?


    From reading the Prius review I guess it is slightly better, but if the Prius corners better, brakes more responsively and better, and dives and leans less, then the Prius will be a real winner compared to the Honda.

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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    07/01/09

    @mzs: The Prius V with the 17" wheels, firmer dampers and sharper steering is much better to drive.
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