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    Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand

    Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales

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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    Well, I see it's time for the rant of the day, from your number one ass, me.

    I have no trouble with this program at all, and the cars that these people are trading in are primarily crap, relatively unsafe, and need a boatload of cash to bring back to proper working order.

    Don't believe me? Then headread this .
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    08/13/09

    @UDMan: Just ignore the head, as I was going to say head on over to.....
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    In other news, the U.S. government discovers that giving away other people's money is very popular with the people taking it.
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    Hello Mister Walrus promoted this comment LoganSix was starred LoganSix was unstarred
    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    08/13/09

    @LoganSix: Well, the US has always redistributed income. That's what the progressive income tax, excise taxes, and subsidies for various industries are for. Some of it has a good purpose and some of it is just a result of some political fiasco.
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    08/13/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Not always. The Federal income tax has not always been around and the country managed to work before then.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    08/13/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: "..Well, the US has always redistributed income..."

    Just out of curiosity, are you out of school yet? Because if you aren't, you may want to take 'History of the US Before 1865'. It really is enlightening how much differently macroeconomics is managed now compared to how the founders intended. Redistribution of income isn't part of the original plan at all.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    "Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand"

    Man, that headline would have had a much different meaning a decade ago.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09

    @FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh?: Hah, and until we get the euro focus, still relevant!
    I don't know if that's true.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    08/13/09

    @FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh?: If I hadn't heart clicked you a long time ago... Thanks for making me laugh at work. :)
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/13/09

    @mr_dude: I thought of that afterward, but at least the Focus is competent and well-constructed, even if it's uglier than a '58 Edsel with chlamydia.
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    08/13/09

    @FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh?: I think all the current clunker demand is over at Chrysler. I still shake my head and wonder every time I see a new Sebring or Caliber. "You bought that on purpose?"
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/13/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: Oh, I know. There are Fords, Toyotas, and of course the Chevy Impala that I love to rag on, but at least they're decently constructed. A Caliber or Sevenger... shit, no. It makes me sad. Even the minivans have interiors bested by a Cozy Coupe.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand

    Good! It's good to hear some good news....that makes me feel good.
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    pauljones promoted this comment skaycog was here was starred skaycog was here was unstarred
    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    I wonder if they will be able to take back the title of world's 4th largest automaker from Hyundai? I'm betting their corporate vehicle design mix will favor the new kid on the block...
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    Here’s a Reuters headline: Auto inventories tight, U.S. "clunker" interest slips

    Sounds like Ford may be out of luck.
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    mr_dude promoted this comment Flathead Smith was starred Flathead Smith was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09

    @Flathead Smith: For sure the free money artificially inflated demand and now it's going to trail off.

    Now the ball is in the automakers' court for doing something with their newfound capital and customer base.
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    08/13/09

    @Flathead Smith: I'd hate to be in demand/production planning right now. There's almost no way to tell how much of the current demand is delayed or advanced (compared to what normally would have been purchased over a longer period of time). I just hope Ford isn't stuck with insane amounts of inventory around the end-of-year sales lull.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    08/13/09

    @Ash78: Time to invest in storage?
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09


    @Ash78: CARS isn't affecting their regular business practice for predicting customer demand.
    2003 "Should we build more SUVs?" *shake shake shake*
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    08/13/09

    Mr. Dude, Ash78:Ronald Reagan: "A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."

    Here’s part of post I submitted to Jalopnik about a week ago:

    Really what this program has accomplished is that it moved up the date of a natural auto purchase and will lead to a fall off in sells in the future, and then in order to spur economic activity, congress will call for an even larger program to stimulate purchases. The other effect is that when the program stops, some people who may be thinking about purchasing a car may wait for the program to start in order to not miss out on the perceived freebee.

    The saddest part is that just like most government programs the poor will end up suffering the most. Many of these so called clunkers are perfectly viable autos that will be removed from the market place along with potential used parts. This will drive up the cost of the used car market and maintaining current older cars on the road. This puts out of reach a better used car for those who do not have the means to purchase a new car.

    In the end no one wins when the government decides to force the invisible hand that Adam Smith elegantly spoke of.

    Possibly the first part of my quote has come true.
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    Edited by Flathead Smith at 08/13/09 12:48 PM Flathead Smith was starred Flathead Smith was unstarred
    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09

    @Flathead Smith: Shaw: "I often quote myself, it adds spice to my conversations."

    The economy isn't a horse that needs to be spurred again and again. It's a semi-closed system that enters periods of positive and negative feedback.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    08/13/09

    @mr_dude: One thing that folks don’t seem to understand is this:

    When economies go negative, there is a reason why, and usually that reason is there is some type of activity that is unsustainable over the long term and those in the market have generally figured something is wrong. Until that part of the market is reformed, it is silly for an outside entity to come in and attempt to "spur again and again" as you said. This can lead to a dead horse.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09

    @Flathead Smith: [en.wikipedia.org]
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/13/09

    @mr_dude: I like the SimCity theory that I've developed. Most cities do not want dirty industry, so in my games I simply tax the balls off of it. Counter to that, in more attractive areas, I will lower taxes to artificially spur growth - but if I don't provide housing and services for the lower-wage people who are employed by the rich, demand naturally stagnates.

    What I'm saying is that altering one factor can actually dig you a deeper hole while granting you short-term gains.
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    Image of Maxx Cracker Maxx Cracker
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    I'd rather have a Model T.
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    P161911 now with M POWER! promoted this comment Maxx Cracker was starred Maxx Cracker was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    Yay! Somebody gets to keep their job.
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    08/13/09

    In reply to Ford Increases Production To Meet Clunker Demand
    Possible headline: Ford increases its Focus and aids its Escape possibilites
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    08/13/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Nice! It's like a Ford "fight or flight" coin toss. Heads we Focus. Tails we Escape.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    08/13/09

    @Scandinavian Flick:
    Mr. Witty!
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    Syrax - in black for the Jezebanned promoted this comment skaycog was here was starred skaycog was here was unstarred
    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    08/13/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Ford has AIDS?
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    08/13/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: You could say that it's a Fusion of ideas, all trying to make their Expedition fruitful. Hopefully they'll be able to Transit this message to their customers.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/13/09

    @Schm wishes he could bring back the funny. .: With all that success, they could build an enormous Battleship board. You'd hear them saying over the megaphone:
    - F-150!
    - You sunk my escort vessel!
    - Send in the F22 Raptors and get ready for my victory fiesta. Thanks G.T.
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    08/13/09

    @DoctorNine's D9 Cat: Everyone has AIDS.
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    FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh? promoted this comment GreenN_Gold was starred GreenN_Gold was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/13/09

    @GreenN_Gold: My ninth-grade government teacher cheerfully announced one day that "each member of Congress has aides". There was some giggling.
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    08/13/09

    @Schm wishes he could bring back the funny. .: Yeah, they'd been on the Edge so much they're relishing this chance to Flex their muscles. I just hope they have a proper long Ranger view, or else their sales might go to Ka Ka again.
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    Image of Earl_of_Gumout Earl_of_Gumout
    08/13/09

    @Scandinavian Flick misses the second page of...: If you want to have fun with
    Ford car names, put the word "anal" in front of it. Think Probe, Expedition, Explorer, etc...
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    Scandinavian Flick misses the second page of comments... promoted this comment Earl_of_Gumout was starred Earl_of_Gumout was unstarred
    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    08/13/09

    @Earl_of_Gumout: That works for a lot of car companies, but Ford does lend itself to certain abuses...
    Leeeeeena taught me the anal game a while back and we had some fun with that for hours at a late night diner with some friends.

    WOW! That sounds wrong...
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    Image of bangernomics bangernomics
    08/09/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    So Saudi Arabia sleeps easy while Ahmedinejad and Putin count the cash. Looks like someone needs to introduce a federal gas tax.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment bangernomics was starred bangernomics was unstarred
    Image of tankman tankman
    08/07/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    With NHTSA's numbers, I couldn't figure why all the full size pick-up owners were switching to small cars. It all makes sense now. People are trading in Explorers for Escapes and full size pick-ups for....full size pickups.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment tankman was starred tankman was unstarred
    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/07/09

    @tankman: Steps in the right direction, I suppose. Not as dramatic a shift as the first reports made it seem. Still, the cumulative effect should be substantial, and it may have a minor impact of the gas prices that we'll all be paying.

    Just saw a quote that said the total impact to the economy will be an $18 billion boost. 6x multiplier effect, which is healthy.
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    Edited by Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet at 08/07/09 9:11 PM Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was starred Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet was unstarred
    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    08/07/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    I actually think that those Ford Escape and Ranger choices are a rational upgrade. The Focus? Not so much.
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    08/07/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    So, we are slowly sliding towards some middle ground between Robocop and Idiocracy. Great.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    08/07/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    Hey GM, apparently your Cobalt sucks.
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    Image of lilwillie lilwillie
    08/07/09

    In reply to Cash For Clunkers Program Actually Benefiting Truck, Crossover Sales
    crossdressers are benefiting the most from the clunker trade in?
    I am so confused.
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