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So GM is going to hold the Volt hostage over the bailout money, while Ford will be popping out Fusion Hybrids and enjoying that warm, cozy feeling of fiscal solvency?
@mikedrawcar: Well at least now the engine will make the angry sounds, too.
Hey, people can choose whatever motor they'd like for their car. But sometimes I feel like they ought to USE at least 80% of it from time to time.
I was just "training" my wife on Tiptronic last night (her first V6 in over six years). She's scared of the sounds it makes over 3,500 RPM when the variable header shifts.
The Euro/Dollar exchange is pretty decent right now, so I'd imagine they'd just import them for a while, rather than sink the capital expense into a new product. Hopefully this will be beneficial in the near term. In the long run, obviously in-house production is better, but that relies on things like "credit" to build new plants (look up "credit" on google, I don't feel like explaining it)
@FrankRizzo: There's the rub. Launching new "savior-mobiles" is a small part of their problem.
I had dinner last night with some co-workers and a couple of their spouses. To put this in to perspective, these were mostly folks in their late 40s and early 50s, of anglo persuasion, a VP in a division of a major entertainment company, a project manager and a various other white-collar types.
Anyway, I found it odd, being the "kid" at the table in my late 30s, that I was the ONLY one who had even the slightest sympathy or want for the "big" 3 survive. All I heard from these white, upper middle-class folks was "how great Hondas and Toyotas" were and how their Ford Cortina, Maverick, Camaro, Thunderbird of their wild 60s and 70s HS and college days were all pieces of shit (not to mention a 2003 Volvo lemon that was bought back by Ford) and how they'd NEVER go near another "American car" again so long as they live.
I know, this is just one small anecdotal example, but if these 40-50ish white professionals can't be convinced to "buy American", how the hell is enough of the population going to be roped in to buy these cars, especially a $40k Chevy?
Whether it's true or not that Japanese cars are somehow "better" than American brands, the impression they suck that's soaked into folks like the ones I had dinner with last night runs DEEP.
@silverjunkee: Sadly, most of the consumer money is in the hands of people who still remember GM's flailing in the 80s and the Japanese "saving the day" in the 90s.
It's kind of sick, especially with how things change over time. It's like holding a grudge against a college football team because you didn't like them in 1974 (or the opposite, thinking everything the Japanese do is coated in gold, which is sort of like Alabama fans and their team)
@FrankRizzo: I think the point is "we're screwed... unless we get a big fat check from Uncle Sam..."
I'm in favor of a rational plan to support the auto industry, but my first reaction on seeing this is that they are just playing Chicken with Congress with this ploy. They're basically saying "We can't afford to innovate our way out of this without help" in an effort to encourage the gov't loan program. Maybe I'm just cynical though.
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You stay classy, GM.
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Hey, people can choose whatever motor they'd like for their car. But sometimes I feel like they ought to USE at least 80% of it from time to time.
I was just "training" my wife on Tiptronic last night (her first V6 in over six years). She's scared of the sounds it makes over 3,500 RPM when the variable header shifts.
What were we talking about?
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We can't make a recovery because we can't launch our new cars, we can't launch our cars because we don't have the cash to build the plant.
So, in short, they're screwed.
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I had dinner last night with some co-workers and a couple of their spouses. To put this in to perspective, these were mostly folks in their late 40s and early 50s, of anglo persuasion, a VP in a division of a major entertainment company, a project manager and a various other white-collar types.
Anyway, I found it odd, being the "kid" at the table in my late 30s, that I was the ONLY one who had even the slightest sympathy or want for the "big" 3 survive. All I heard from these white, upper middle-class folks was "how great Hondas and Toyotas" were and how their Ford Cortina, Maverick, Camaro, Thunderbird of their wild 60s and 70s HS and college days were all pieces of shit (not to mention a 2003 Volvo lemon that was bought back by Ford) and how they'd NEVER go near another "American car" again so long as they live.
I know, this is just one small anecdotal example, but if these 40-50ish white professionals can't be convinced to "buy American", how the hell is enough of the population going to be roped in to buy these cars, especially a $40k Chevy?
Whether it's true or not that Japanese cars are somehow "better" than American brands, the impression they suck that's soaked into folks like the ones I had dinner with last night runs DEEP.
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It's kind of sick, especially with how things change over time. It's like holding a grudge against a college football team because you didn't like them in 1974 (or the opposite, thinking everything the Japanese do is coated in gold, which is sort of like Alabama fans and their team)
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I'm in favor of a rational plan to support the auto industry, but my first reaction on seeing this is that they are just playing Chicken with Congress with this ploy. They're basically saying "We can't afford to innovate our way out of this without help" in an effort to encourage the gov't loan program. Maybe I'm just cynical though.