I have a friend who reviews boats for a magazine. He says some boats are just hard to write anything good about. He's always said, if he starts talking about how nice the interior is, you know the boat completely sucks.
@AustinMiniMan: Strangely, that was exactly my thought as well... particularly due to the absence of a huge plethora of photos of the interior.
There are instances where the interior truly blows the mind. My first time sitting in a Jaguar XF naturally springs to mind. But in that instance, I didn't find myself saying, "Well, this is awkward, but cool, and once you're used to it, I'm sure it'll work great." That's not a phrase you'd use to describe a fantastic interior. That's an interior built around a huge compromise that also happens to be pretty.
I return to Jaguar as an example, because I adore their interiors. The first time I sat in a new XJR, even before I started the engine, I remarked aloud that they were some of the best seats I'd experienced. The feel of the shifter and steering wheel were amazing. Smooth, firm and luxurious. They made you realize how much you had been missing in every car you'd driven up to that point. They made your mind frantically begin searching for superlatives to help describe it to people later. The XF, later, made me think, "Everything I said about the XJR, but better."
In honesty, I feel like I need to cut through the writing here. Clearly, they had to give a positive review, as Acura gave them this for a tester. But if those aren't the kinds of superlatives that spring to mind, then clearly spending most of the article talking about the interior, while referring to the drive as "uninspiring", and saying the car has "enough" power... well, that's a smokescreen.
When I re-read this, filtering out the half-hearted positivity, my interpretation of the car is that it is ugly (it is), pointless, uninspiring, underpowered, and a general failure. A Volvo C30, a Z3 Coupe, a two-door Audi A3, or really any Shooting Brake, are perfect cars for DINKs. Room for the couple, and enough gear for a weekend getaway. This... well, is none of those things.
your volvo is...
since you are speaking for gay people, i hope you are. i am one of the DINK who happens to be gay and i think it's a very nice ride. Maybe i'm obsessed with style but i also prefer a car, its no offensive to me.
@VolettaCading: I'm not gonna judge your view of style, and I'm not denying that it's a nice car, it's just offensively ugly. And that's coming from the owner of an enormous housebrick with faded paint.
There's only one trouble with that demographic: gay and lesbian couples make up a fair chunk of DINKs. Gay men, you see, fall into two categories for marketing purposes: those obsessed with style, who will find this offensive, and those who want an ordinary car, who... will also find this offensive. Lesbians either want something tough (which this isn't) or, again, something average.
Who's really going to buy this? Who knows. It's not prestigious enough for daddy's sorority girls, not roomy enough for soccer moms, and too ugly for most people with eyes. I just don't see a market for it.
The ZDX's center stack "has no visible lettering on the switches until powered on with each set of switches only powering on when needed."
Love that! My 1987 Accord did this, too, with the dual-function buttons along the bottom of the radio. When a cassette was in the player, the words above the buttons (rew, fwd, eject, etc.) lit up. When the player was empty, the radio presets (1 thru... 5?) below the buttons illuminated. I thought that was a very clever bit of design.
But that same radio bizarrely abbreviated "memory" as "memo" on another button, reminding us that even Honda designers aren't perfect...
@sparky hypoid: Or they could have gone the Saab route and just given us an Evening Cluster button to shut off the unnecessary bits for less distracted driving at night.
Wait, who am I kidding? Anyone who buys a new Acura isn't doing it for the driving experience, and they've got a cell phone welded to their ear.
But can you have sex in it- more specifically, "no baby" sex? Hey they say passionate getaway.
In all seriousness I actually like this design, and it sounds like a great car inside. Yeah it's a bit of an ugly duckling, but that sort of gives it a quirkiness that's gone the way of AMC.
I have to wonder: who's going to buy this used? Not other DINKs, who will want something new. I see great bargains ahead for those willing to put aside taste to get a more luxurious ride than they could otherwise hope to afford.
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Acura: Stop with the corporate grill now. I will not buy another of your cars until you realize this. It is not attractive. It is not tasteful. It does not further your brand.
What happened to simple, understated, tasteful cars?
My 05 TL is due for replacement and I will buy an Infiniti if you force me to.
And yes, I'm going to say this in every Acura thread.
@vaportrail: Simple and tasteful doesn't cut it in the car market anymore. Your 05 TL was, in all reality, a restyled Accord, and was losing ground to other competitors.
Maybe it's my European perspective, but isn't this thing way to large to be aimed at 2 people? The only two things this car seems to excel in are 1. a nice dash and 2. amazing impracticality for it's size (and weight and fuel consumption, probably)
@duurtlang: It's a lot easier to aim at two people when you use a large vehicle. It's really tough on a motorcycle, for example. Got to get 'em lined up perfectly.
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There are instances where the interior truly blows the mind. My first time sitting in a Jaguar XF naturally springs to mind. But in that instance, I didn't find myself saying, "Well, this is awkward, but cool, and once you're used to it, I'm sure it'll work great." That's not a phrase you'd use to describe a fantastic interior. That's an interior built around a huge compromise that also happens to be pretty.
I return to Jaguar as an example, because I adore their interiors. The first time I sat in a new XJR, even before I started the engine, I remarked aloud that they were some of the best seats I'd experienced. The feel of the shifter and steering wheel were amazing. Smooth, firm and luxurious. They made you realize how much you had been missing in every car you'd driven up to that point. They made your mind frantically begin searching for superlatives to help describe it to people later. The XF, later, made me think, "Everything I said about the XJR, but better."
In honesty, I feel like I need to cut through the writing here. Clearly, they had to give a positive review, as Acura gave them this for a tester. But if those aren't the kinds of superlatives that spring to mind, then clearly spending most of the article talking about the interior, while referring to the drive as "uninspiring", and saying the car has "enough" power... well, that's a smokescreen.
When I re-read this, filtering out the half-hearted positivity, my interpretation of the car is that it is ugly (it is), pointless, uninspiring, underpowered, and a general failure. A Volvo C30, a Z3 Coupe, a two-door Audi A3, or really any Shooting Brake, are perfect cars for DINKs. Room for the couple, and enough gear for a weekend getaway. This... well, is none of those things.
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since you are speaking for gay people, i hope you are. i am one of the DINK who happens to be gay and i think it's a very nice ride. Maybe i'm obsessed with style but i also prefer a car, its no offensive to me.
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Who's really going to buy this? Who knows. It's not prestigious enough for daddy's sorority girls, not roomy enough for soccer moms, and too ugly for most people with eyes. I just don't see a market for it.
And God damn it, I hope I'm right.
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Love that! My 1987 Accord did this, too, with the dual-function buttons along the bottom of the radio. When a cassette was in the player, the words above the buttons (rew, fwd, eject, etc.) lit up. When the player was empty, the radio presets (1 thru... 5?) below the buttons illuminated. I thought that was a very clever bit of design.
But that same radio bizarrely abbreviated "memory" as "memo" on another button, reminding us that even Honda designers aren't perfect...
09/26/09
Wait, who am I kidding? Anyone who buys a new Acura isn't doing it for the driving experience, and they've got a cell phone welded to their ear.
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In all seriousness I actually like this design, and it sounds like a great car inside. Yeah it's a bit of an ugly duckling, but that sort of gives it a quirkiness that's gone the way of AMC.
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Being a SAPAK (Small Asian People With A Kid), I don't see any problem with the rear seats.
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What happened to simple, understated, tasteful cars?
My 05 TL is due for replacement and I will buy an Infiniti if you force me to.
And yes, I'm going to say this in every Acura thread.
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