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GreenN_Gold
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
I'll grant you that this significantly changes the stated ambition and direction of Chrysler's EV program, but it reads more like a merger of the two company's EV programs, rather than the death of the Chrysler EV program.

"Lou Rhodes, who was in charge of ENVI, continues to oversee electrical vehicle development for both companies." #chryslerenvi
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brandegee
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Desperation can breed good ideas. This Circuit, with the exception of the decidedly old-school red Viper taillights, is the best looking Dodge I've seen in a long time. #chryslerenvi
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günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
you've got to be kidding me, wes... first i lose all that money on my pre-ordered tesla... and now on this too?? i guess it's time to move the money tree to a larger pot... see if it'll grow a bit bigger.. #chryslerenvi
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YankBoffin
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Someone elses chassis + someone elses powertrain + Chrysler badges = How the hell would this have been profitable? There was no innovation here. It was cobbled together with existing technology that anyone could put together (and Tesla did it already). At the time it came out I was thinking it must be something to impress Congress to get the bail-out money. Now, I'm positive. #chryslerenvi
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zacarious
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Company is a joke - may I make an analogy.

Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.

This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
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Rabbi Dave
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Well remember Chrysler had/has no car that gets better than 30 mpg highway, so with Fiat's new engines here in 2 years it should help fleet mileage as much as a low volume battery electric. There will still be a hybrid Ram 1500 next year though. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
That's too bad because I really thought that the Jeep EV was a great idea that might actually have a market. #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
11/10/09

@weatherman: I really hope you are kidding.... #chryslerenvi
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BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom
11/10/09

@makopolo: Why? Lots of torque in a very quiet package? Sounds pretty good to me. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

@BaconSandwich: exactly. For some reason some folks seem to have this idea that Jeeps are all about trashing the environment and crushing bunnies underfoot. But the outdoorsy people (the ones who actually camp, hike, fish and hunt) are actually the ones who care more about the quiet enjoyment of the environment than the ones who just want to look like they offroad. Jeep could do a lot to prevent an image failure like Hummer had by embracing (or returning to) the outdoorsman market. And if they can do it with a high-torque electric that would actually be more capable offroad, all the better.
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danio3834
11/10/09

@weatherman: Right, but while you're doing all that in your electric Jeep, where do you plug it in? A cactus? #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
11/10/09

@weatherman: sounds great, but where do I charge it when I go on that 400 mile trip to the wilderness? #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

@danio3834 & makopolo: if you'd read about the program, you'd know that the Jeep was a gas/electric hyrbid with a (supposed) range of 400 miles on an 8 gallon tank, which is enough to travel the entire length of the Sierra Nevada range.
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zeet
11/10/09

@weatherman: .. and if that still isn't enough, would it really be a Jeep without a Jerry can strapped to the back? #chryslerenvi
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Alfisted
11/10/09

In reply to Five Reasons Dodge Shouldn't Divorce Ram
Reason 6: Misery loves company. #ram
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
11/05/09

In reply to Chrysler's Complete Five-Year Product Plan
I recall a 5-year plan in the movie Big Daddy.

I know it resulted in working at Hooter's.

How bad can this be? #chrysler
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GREY-KK
11/05/09

In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
i dont know, maybe it's jus' me...
*kicks a rock*
but it looks like a horrible 4-door knock-off of the corvette.

I can just imagine, you'll be driving down tha road one day, and you'll a streak of yellow outta the corner of your eye.

The shape will say CORVETTE! You'll look... and well... you see that concept picture up there. #chrysler
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AmishJohn
11/05/09

@GREY-KK: You say that like it's a bad thing. #chrysler
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bradyb
11/05/09

In reply to Chrysler's Complete Five-Year Product Plan
When do I get my Brera?
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bmoreDLJ
11/05/09

In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
Sooo...they're replacing a five-year old design on an old Mercedes platform with...a ten-year old design on that same platform.

Dodge...grabbing life by the horns then dragging it backwards. #chrysler
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buick61
11/05/09

@bmoreDLJ: Any self-respecting car guy knows that the LX isn't an old Mercedes platform. And the next generation will have even less to do with the Benz-era parts, as it's getting new engines, transmissions, and electrical system. #chrysler
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bmoreDLJ
11/05/09

@buick61: "...The LX was developed in America using components borrowed from the Mercedes-Benz W220 S-class control arm front suspension, Mercedes-Benz W210 E-Class the 5-link rear suspension, the W5A580 5-speed automatic, the rear differential, and the ESP system..."

True, not an old Mercedes platform, but used components. #chrysler
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jeepfreak
11/05/09

In reply to Chrysler's Complete Five-Year Product Plan
Fiat.... Fix It Again Tony!

Think that applies to Chrysler now? #chrysler
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ThreeLitre
11/05/09

@jeepfreak: Now?

When did it not? #chrysler
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skierpage
11/05/09

In reply to Chrysler's Complete Five-Year Product Plan
Stereotypical Jalopnik readers should love the new Chrysler, nearly all the battery and hybrid crap is gone from their product plans.

From another slide: only one hybrid for 2010 (a Dodge RAM 1500 hybrid), in 2011 there's a plug-in hybrid minivan for "DOE Grant PHEV Demo Fleet", and production follows years later. There are no battery vehicles except an unidentified small Fiat "Light Commercial" van in 2012. None of the battery electric ENVI models from January 2009 like the DodgeLotus appear, just vague clouds in 2013.

Nevertheless "Chrysler Group is lead engineering center for hybrid/electrification for Chrysler & Fiat Group", thanks to all 200 or so of those Aspen hybrids they briefly made.
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WarShrike
11/04/09

In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
YES! They're using the design cues that made me as a kid really consider a four door performance car. I hope they really use some of these design cues, it was ahead of its time in many aspects. #chrysler
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