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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    Wow... it's very even. I can't believe I voted CP on one of my fav cars.
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    ,i"However, like the Dino 2 + 2, the Mondial was not a handsome car."

    I'll stand up for the Dino 308 2+2. I'll allow that the angular Bertone styling isn't for everyone, and the door handles appear to be direct from the AMC parts bin, but I find the design to hold up quite well. Frankly, I'd prefer it in my driveway over a Mondial.

    Caveat-I also like the F40. So there ya' go.
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    Image of Myron Samila Myron Samila
    12/03/09

    @powermatic: "and the door handles appear to be direct from the AMC parts bin,"

    Actually, no.. the door handles are directly from the Fiat X1/9 parts bin! with a chromed backshell.. (X1/9 had a black back shell)
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    @Myron Samila: Well...I knew that Ferrari wasn't sourcing AMC for parts, even on their least expensive models. But the resemblance between the Fiat and AMC handles has always been striking, and it's a good design-very clean. Nowadays, unfortunately, it gives off kind of a cheapy Fiat/AMC vibe.
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    Image of Myron Samila Myron Samila
    12/04/09

    @powermatic:true.. they appear to look similar.

    However, technically.. the door handles are from the Bertone parts bin, not Fiat. Lamborghini Urraco used this handle as well.
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    Image of FlakJack FlakJack
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    Crack pipe for the price but more importantly, for being a Mondial -- the Ferrari that never really impressed anyone when it was new and certainly hasn't aged well. Plus, a guy in my neighborhood has one of these (in red, a color which makes it look like a bad knock-off of the Testarossa) and drives it like an absolute douche, further tarnishing the model for me.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    Crack pipe for the missing center cap.
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    Image of kraftwerkjoe kraftwerkjoe
    12/03/09

    @Turboner: Actually, I think the back wheels have recessed caps. Oddly, the owner mounted the the front and the rear wheel backwards on the passenger side (still weird looking). Crack pipe however you disect it...
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    12/03/09

    @kraftwerkjoe: Naw, you can see the lug nuts on the back left, but not on the other three. They look to have an axle nut cap under there, too.
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    Marginal Crack Pipe, but not an awful buy. The Mondial was the awkward stepsister of the '80s Ferrari line, but this has the benefit of being topless and having a service history.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    This is pretty much where the market is for Mondial's at the moment. If the mechanical inspection presents a clean bill of health with some kind of paper trail for the service history, and a 2+2 Ferrari shakes your tree, then why not. Nice price.
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    If you're of beery income, yet have the champagney 'Own a Ferrari' as item number 127 on your life to-do list, this might be your chance. Buy, drive for one month, sell. And hope nothing breaks during that 30 day period.

    But were it me, I'd wait for something that's more stylish, painted a proper Ferrari Red, and had wheels that didn't suck.
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    Image of iancoleTX iancoleTX
    12/03/09

    @powermatic: You, sir, have questionable taste in wheels.
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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    @iancoleTX: Red Ferrari. Campagnolo 'Star' wheels.
    Your Honor, I rest my case.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/03/09

    @iancoleTX: You, sir, have questionable taste in questionable ... ness, questionablity (?), questiona ...

    You're wrong.
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    Image of iancoleTX iancoleTX
    12/03/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Upon review of further evidence, I withdraw my objection.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    I'm going with crack pipe out of frustration for missing the Fox vote. And because you can get an NSX for this money.

    Still, it's got the right color and, more importantly, shop receipts.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    What is with that top? Could they have possibly made it look kludgier? Pushing your analogy just a little further, this car should—like mom—also never be photographed with her top down.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    He says he onlly put 3,000 miles on it in 20 years. It's an 1989. So in one year it got 41,000 miles? Not likely!
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/03/09

    @Novaload: It was October '88 when I picked it up, and my commute from San Berdoo into the city really ran up the miles. But someone had to put in Jack's smile prostheses during shooting.

    I'll tell you what, in the late '80s in SoCal with a "Ferrari," a pair of Z Cavariccis, and a bunch of Bartles & Jaymes, I must have run through every waitress in the Inland Empire.

    Shooting ended, and I had a gig in Vancouver; so I sold it to some douchebag who already had bought a diaper to rub it with. Whatever, dude. It's just a Fiat.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/03/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Thanks for clearing that up!
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    At this price level, it's going to attract the attention of people looking for flash, panache, and to part with their cash. Hello, Mondial. Wouldn't an Impala be more sensible? Sure, but if you're even thinking about a Ferrari, "sensible" is no longer a relevant concern.

    It doesn't have the classic Ferrari profile, but it is still unmistakably a Ferrari. And surprisingly, Mom's butt can look pretty good in the right pair of jeans, so maybe taking hold of the prancing stallion isn't such a bad deal. It's a nice price, but only barely.
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    Who is voting NP on this? These things, IIRC, were abotu $60K brand new. Less than $30K in depreciation for an unloved Ferrari with 44K mi on it? You're insane. It was only built to go 40K mi.

    Or, to look at it in a market-based way, you can have a nice example with fewer miles for less money.

    CP
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    Image of H. Mushman H. Mushman
    12/03/09

    @snapoversteer 'bout to get told: That was my logic. I am shocked that it is at 52% NP!? WTF? Tom Celic didn't even drive this model!
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    I give you...the Ferrari Mondial Popemobile.
    [karakullake.blogspot.com]
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    This and the 308GT4 are two of the Ferraris that I see for sale and think, maybe someday. But I think I might rather have the 308GT4, but would probably just end up with a very nice $25k Z06 instead. Sure you can get a 308 for almost the same money but I don't have a Detroit Tigers hat, don't look good with a 'stache, and definitely don't look good in nut-hugger shorts.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    12/03/09

    In reply to Get the Real Mondial for $30,500!
    A quick search of Ontario's Auto Trader pulls up two Mondials within $3500 of this one, so I can't call crack pipe. I just wouldn't be the one to spend 30 grand on it either - I'd be looking at a 308, or if I needed an unloved 4-seater Ferrari, a 412.
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    12/03/09

    @Maymar: Good luck find a 412 that isn't an automatic. I think there are less than a dozen in the US that are stick shifts. Plus add 50% for maintaining a V12 vs a V8.
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