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    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12:08 AM

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    I'll subscribe when I see this:

    'Runnin' Out Of Talent: The Inside Story Of My Indy 500 Career' by P. Bedard

    Not holding my breath.
     Reply
    Edited by powermatic at 12/04/09 12:12 AM powermatic was starred powermatic was unstarred
    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    Wow. So David E. Davis is both:

    a) not dead

    b) back at C&D

    Who knew? Well, back to my copy of 'Excellence'.
     Reply
    powermatic was starred powermatic was unstarred
    Image of doug-g doug-g
    12/03/09

    @powermatic: David E. Davis, Jr. is an arrogant turd factory. I love how he whines about how his subordinates ultimately do him in. His attempt at a "to the manor born" aura is also a riot.

    Tom McCahill (Google him, kiddies) forgot more than David E. will ever know.
     Reply
    powermatic promoted this comment doug-g was starred doug-g was unstarred
    Image of powermatic powermatic
    12/03/09

    @doug-g: What? You mean you really weren't that interested in hearing about DED's collection of custom Belgian shotguns in the pages of a car mag? How gauche!

    Conversely, Rob Walker, who actually was "to the manor born", and knew every inch of the F1 paddock that he covered for Road&Track, didn't exude a whiff of that snobbish crap.

    And AFAIK Tom McCahill was the first auto journalist to make car tests fun to read-who else measured trunk space by how many cases of beer it would hold? Great stuff.
     Reply
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    Image of doug-g doug-g
    12/03/09

    @powermatic: Oh, and let us not forget the time DED, Jr dedicated an entire article to a raccoon ravaging the interior of his Ferrari. Why didn't he take one of his Belgian shotguns and shoot the varmint? Probably because he was afraid he might scratch the stock!

    On McCahill. Legend has it that he once actually TRIED to roll a Corviar and couldn't. He also is responsible for the 0-60 test that is used to this day. "Uncle Tom", as he liked to be called, was my hero as a car crazy kid.
     Reply
    Edited by doug-g at 12/03/09 11:36 PM doug-g was starred doug-g was unstarred
    Image of LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    So they got rid of the whinging Aussie drongo who used to be Ed in Chief at C & D
     Reply
    LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard was starred LandofMinos, cast thou evil bum dragger to thy scrapyard was unstarred
    Image of beercheck beercheck
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    These vessels are making me thirsty.
     Reply
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    Image of egoods egoods
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    I have a model T made out of a Pepsi can that my grandparents brought home from Vietnam for me.
     Reply
    egoods was starred egoods was unstarred
    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    Hey, at least it's still better than Motor Trend.
     Reply
    If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was starred If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was unstarred
    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    This is what happens when talent and skill are benched by an injury. I'd love to build a car with this guy.
     Reply
    Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
    Image of mechimike mechimike
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    How to Read Car and Driver:
    1) Buy a Car and Driver.
    2) Open Car and Driver.
    3) Buy a Grassroots Motorsports.
    4) Open Grassroots Motorsports and place inside of previously opened Car and Driver.
    5) Read.
    6) Repeat.
     Reply
    mechimike was starred mechimike was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    I've seen other can art before, but it always looked like junk. This guy really does amazing work. I'm very impressed, and I don't impress easily.
     Reply
    skaycog was starred skaycog was unstarred
    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    Proof once again, that no matter what kind of cool stuff you can come up with, there is always some one doing something far, far cooler.
     Reply
    evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was starred evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was unstarred
    Image of BullittFan_Fords4Life BullittFan_Fords4Life
    12/03/09

    @evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars: Which means that someone even more skilled is out there right now, constructing a large, horny dragon out of beer cans.

    God help us all.
     Reply
    evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars promoted this comment BullittFan_Fords4Life was starred BullittFan_Fords4Life was unstarred
    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    12/03/09

    @BullittFan_Fords4Life: It's only a matter of time. Or down time in this case.
     Reply
    evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was starred evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was unstarred
    Image of BullittFan_Fords4Life BullittFan_Fords4Life
    12/03/09

    @evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars: One can only hope so.
     Reply
    BullittFan_Fords4Life was starred BullittFan_Fords4Life was unstarred
    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    The only cars where you have to drink to drive.

    Seriously awesome work!
     Reply
    Scandinavian Flick was starred Scandinavian Flick was unstarred
    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    Proof that something stupid, done fantastically well, transmutates stupidity into awesomocity.
     Reply
    Tanshanomi was starred Tanshanomi was unstarred
    Image of evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars
    12/03/09

    @Tanshanomi: "Awesomocity"
    That's going in the 'ol personal vocabulary warehouse.
     Reply
    evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was starred evoCS-Hench-Minion to the stars was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/03/09

    In reply to Man Builds Detailed Model Cars From Discarded Aluminum Cans
    That's way cool.

    Can I haz an extended-wheelbase version if I use tall-boys?
     Reply
    that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Fat Tire Fat Tire
    12/03/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son: Or duallies, or slicks, or dually slicks.
     Reply
    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment Fat Tire was starred Fat Tire was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    12/03/09

    @Fat Tire: Yeah!

    And if it's a Guinness can, it should periodically go "pssst", like air-brakes.

    Not because it makes one fahrtey, but rather, because of the foam-making device.

    /Guinness addict
     Reply
    Edited by that ain't the way to have fun, son at 12/03/09 4:45 PM that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Turboner Turboner
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    We don't just paraphrase the press release for the latest auto-fellator - we actually do the hard research.

    Burn!
     Reply
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    12/03/09

    In reply to How to Read the New Car and Driver
    You mentioned the latest issue of C&D without bringing up the article of the Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys (though I see it mentioned below)

    Ok fine I have a few minutes to kill (apologies for any retyping errors.)

    From page 76, January C&D:

    Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys don't get far.

    I purchased a 1988 Peugeot 505 Turbo S to race in the 24 Hours of LeMons. My goal was to have the car ready for Arse-Freeze-Apalooza at Thunderhill the weekend after Christmas 2008.

    Two weeks before the event, we had unseasonably cold weather in Seattle. Temperatures were in the low 20s. There was alot of snow on the ground when we set out for California on Christmas morning.

    But snow wasn't the problem. The roads were bare and wet for the first 50 miles-and then we hit a patch of black ice near DePont, Washington, on I-5. Abruptly, all traction was lost. The truck and trailer began fishtailing and off we went into the ditch beside the freeway at 55 mph. We rolled at least once. The truck and trailer were totalled. My wife, Brianne, my co-driver, Alan, and I walked away with only minor bruises. The race car broke free of its tie-downs inside the trailer and went for a tumble like a drumstick in a giant bag of Shake 'n Bake. It landed on its wheels on the wall of the trailer.

    When the tow truck arrived, they had to rip the top (now a wall) off the trailer to pull out the race car. After all that, I drove the $500 Peugeot home. The only damage it sustained was a slightly wrinkled roof and some broken glass. Sadly, we didn't make it to Arse-Freeze-Apalooza, but we did make it to Goin' for Broken in Reno on Memorial Day. The weather was much better.

    Sean Green, Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys, Renton, Washington.
     Reply
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    Image of tony-e30 tony-e30
    12/03/09

    @Jo Schmo: that would be DuPont, Washington.
     Reply
    Jo Schmo promoted this comment tony-e30 was starred tony-e30 was unstarred
    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    12/03/09

    @tony-e30: heh, I copied "DePont" straight from the magazine.
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    Jo Schmo was starred Jo Schmo was unstarred
    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    12/03/09

    @Jo Schmo: I can confirm. I subscribe, and I noticed the "DePont" in my home issue when I read it.
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