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    This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like

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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    This photo wouldn't even make it to consideration for the cover of FLYING or any other mainstream aviation publication. I'm guessing it was one of the F-16 pilots using his Sony Cybershot at 3.2 megapixels and digital zoom.


    I'd be embarassed to email a shot like this to my family.

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    Image of sos10 sos10
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    and this is car related info?
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    Image of Ash78, tryptophanatic Ash78, tryptophanatic
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    Is this gonna show up on NPOCP tomorrow morning? Graverobber?


    Hey, at least someone cares about staging nice photos for their Craigslist posting.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    @Ash78: VC-25 for sale. Well maintained, all records. Some modifications, but can only discuss them after security clearance. Seats one king...er...president, staff, adoring media, and security. Pilot not included.


    Serious inquiries only.


    Location: Washington, DC

    it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    For $328,000, couldn't they have at least hired a better photographer? The shot is overexposed and I see some CA. Nice cockpit reflection too...
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    05/11/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Oh yeah, and lets not forget the freaking cockpit itself in the lower right.


    Professional photo my ass. I could do better with my point-n-click on video mode...

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    I would say something, but it would probably start a two-hundred reply war.


    I'll just go sit in the corner........for now.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Were you going to say something about certain execs flying their jets to Washington?
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    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Go for it. Things are slow at the office today...
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: This guy micro-manages everything, and he claims he didn't know this was planned.


    Please.


    Plausible deniability?


    We're in for a rude awakening.


    People claim the Republicans were in charge for eight years, not really. They didn't have both the House and the Senate. They only had the Executive Branch.


    I can't stand when one party runs the whole show. It ends up being too extreme. You need some balance.


    Wait until Franken joins the party. It is a shame he hasn't suffered an aneurysm. While driving. Alongside a 1500 foot cliff with no guardrails. With Nancy Pelosi in the passenger seat.

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    Image of 85_GN 85_GN
    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli:


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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    @85_Grand_National: Congress has more power over the economy than the president. Who passes the budget? (Congress) We tend to give the president (any president) way too much credit for economic problems. In reality, the economy is more a function of us than a function of what the president does or doesn't. We've been heading towards our current problems for 15+ years and were just going from one bubble to another.


    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: Yes.

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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    05/11/09

    @engineerd:


    Nah, the media told me everything that's gone wrong is Bush's fault.

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    @engineerd: Well said.
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    Image of Neener Neener
    05/11/09

    @rlj676-Carbon Footprint Size - Clownshoe: Then I can expect you not blaming Obama for your current frustrations?
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    @Neener: His grace period is pretty much over, and Congress needs to shoulder a great deal of the blame as well.
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    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: he claims he didn't know this was planned.


    Please.


    So Obama knew a plane was going to fly around Manhattan, and didn't tell anyone-- so what.


    Bush knew a plane was going to fly into Manhattan...

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    @area_educator: Wow.
    The funny thing is, we are not talking about Bush.
    We are talking about Obama. Stay on topic. Or does not Obama not merit talking about?


    It is a waste of taxpayer money, that is why. And I don't want to hear about Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush. Obama is President, these are now his problems. The grace period is over, and he hasn't exactly improved much, without attaching a great deal of strings. This guy is like a set of maniacal fine print attached to a contract from hell.


    I hope you are not insinuating that Bush knew about 9/11.
    What an ignorant statement.


    If that is what you believe, do me a favor, don't respond to my posts.

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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    05/11/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: psst.... it was a joke.
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    05/11/09

    @area_educator kids...: I'm sorry then. My sarcasm detector isn't working today.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    Nelly said something about this, if I remember right:


    [Intro]

    Ba-rack… Ba-rack… Ba-rack


    [Chorus]

    I said give me two shots

    (cause) I need new shots

    So I can get to flying in my Air Force One

    (Ba-racks) flying in my Air Force One


    [Nelly]

    I like the all white blue top stripe with the phone system

    (Ba-rack) there's something 'bout it that's dirty why I got 'em

    (Ba-rack) I leave it fueled and loaded and scare the [expletive deleted] out 'em

    (Ba-rack) the last person who touched 'em I been shot 'em (Ba-rack)

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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    We need Harrison Ford on the case. He'll sort everyone out.
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    Image of clinto clinto
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    Much ado over nothing.
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    Image of MarywithanM™ MarywithanM™
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    Two questions: Who paid $328,000 to whom? Are they going to photoshop in the WTC?
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/11/09

    @MarywithanM: You and I paid $328k. Because, you know, us taxpayers have infinitely deep pockets.
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    Image of Neener Neener
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    I don't see any automobiles...
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    05/11/09

    @Neener: The article is tagged "planelopnik". Apparently the Auto Insider is also a Aero Insider...
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    05/11/09

    @Neener: It's a special edition of DOTS. And also, judging from the quality of the photo, in TiltShift.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    05/11/09

    @Neener: If you right click on the photo and use the magnifying glass tool, then you see cars like this..
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    Image of nick2ny nick2ny
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    Oooh wow you don't see many hexadecagonal building floorplans, although I haven't been there and suppose it might just be a pedestal.


    In other news, I don't find a jet flying by to be too scary. Though the backwards american flag means that is a knock-off vertical stabilizer.

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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    @nick2ny: A lot of New Yorkers find it frightening considering two jets flying low killed, what, 3000+ people there?


    The flag is always "backwards" on the starboard side of aircraft.

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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    05/11/09

    @nick2ny: That star shaped building is an old fort on top of which the (square) pedestal was built.
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    Image of dirtyjerseysti dirtyjerseysti
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    That is what everyone freaked out about? Are you kidding me, I thought it was just a 747 not Air Force One. If I saw AF1 and a F-16 flying around NYC I would be okay with that.
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    05/11/09

    @dirtyjerseysti: From the ground it just looks like a 747 unless you look real close.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/11/09

    @dirtyjerseysti: Technically, it's not Air Force One unless the president is on board.


    But anyway, anyone would be freaked out if a 747 flew at 1000 feet over NYC. Even if it did say "President of the United States" on the side, there's no reason that it should have been there. Bad, bad military office.

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    05/11/09

    @dirtyjerseysti: I think it is total crap that everyone freaked out and made such a big deal out of this. Maybe the gov should have at least warned the people of new york that it was going to be flying AF1 and some F16s over for a photo op, but come on, get a grip.
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    05/11/09

    @deftonesboy360: That's part of the problem, the state government, police, and FAA were told about it, but were told by the White House not to tell anyone.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    05/12/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: The Air Force One never flew over New York City at 1,000 feet. The Statue of Liberty's is much closer to Jersey, so it circled mostly over the harbor and Liberty State Park.


    If I had seen the plane I would have guessed it had been waved off because of major congestion at Newark airport (which pretty much happens every day).


    Still, bonehead move by the military.

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    Image of Triborough Triborough
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    You could get a 12 year old to do a much better job with Photoshop for the price of a cone from Mister Softee.
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    Image of 413wedge 413wedge
    05/11/09

    @Triborough: Then ask him, "You ever see a grown man naked?"
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    05/11/09

    @BigBlockHypereutectic: Who do you think "Mr. Softee" is?
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/11/09

    In reply to This Is What A $328,000 Air Force One Photo Looks Like
    They couldn't have just photoshopped this?
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    Image of wookie1901 wookie1901
    05/11/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: That's what SNL thought.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/11/09

    @wookie1901: That's what everyone is asking.
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    Image of I would like cars for $500 Alex I would like cars for $500 Alex
    05/11/09

    No need to cut corners@Hello Mister Walrus: Is this a rhetorical question?
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/11/09

    @I would like cars for $500 Alex: I guess it was somewhat rhetorical. No one really expects the White House to use promotional photos in which a 747 is just photoshopped in. However, you do have to wonder why this was even necessary. $328,000 is a lot of money for a photograph, considering that a) they probably have similar ones archived, and b) there is already a huge deficit for 2009. One cannot help but wonder what other things the government is spending money on.
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    Image of Canuck Chinaman Canuck Chinaman
    05/11/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Because Adobe tried to charge them $328,001 for a licensed copy of Photoshop
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    05/11/09

    @Canuck Chinaman: Whoa, did they get a White House discount or something? I mean, Adobe said 500,000 or nothing.
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