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    Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies

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    Image of Landau_Calrissian loves our President Camacho. Landau_Calrissian loves our President Camacho.
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    In all this debate about air capability, we forget any real enemy we fight with these will have ships that will smoke them from WAAAAAY over the horizon. Oh, well.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @Landau_Calrissian is a Plastic Paddy:


    Not really. The only navies in the world that are a credible threat to us, and might (and that is an extremely big might) be effective enough to pose a threat are India and Russia. China has a large fleet that it is working very hard on modernizing, but their training is not as thorough.


    As for allied Navies, particularly our Navy, as capable as Aegis is said to be, I wouldn't be confident enough to bet that it will stop every threat.

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    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    As an aside, I found this several years ago in doing research on the proposed F-15N:



    It's a kit mesh of an F-15 and F/A-18 in an attempt to conceptualize a possible configuration for the F-15N (for which there is literally no data or images for, only a record that it was conceived), and I thought it was both creative and well-done.

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    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    A new F-15... hmm..


    We must be back in the days of double-digit inflation!


    Carter 2.0

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @alan505: It's not too late for that happen.
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    Image of Triborough Triborough
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    Calling an F-15 a Boeing is like calling a Jeep a Chrysler.
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    03/20/09

    @Triborough: Nice.


    McDonnell Douglas FTW.

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    Image of tenbeers tenbeers
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    Also, this is the perfect thread for:

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    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    So this is essentially a resto mod for the aircraft world. Very cool. I love seeing good designs given legs.
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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    Someone please tell me that they can do the same thing to the A-10 so that plane can last another 50 years. Oh how I love flying tanks.
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    03/20/09

    @maximum-sienna haz a NA V-6: yep, A-10s are currently undergoing fleet-wide upgrades and will be with us for a while yet. Maybe not 50 years, but a couple decades.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @tenbeers:


    I dunno, it is already projected that the B-52 will have been in service for nearly a century by the time they are at last taken out of service.

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    03/20/09

    @pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: For sure, and time will tell. The current A-10C upgrade is significant and completely modernizes the jet. In 20 years the warthog may be retired as planned, or get another set of upgrades for another 20 years of service.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    I'm totally Asperger's when it comes to this stuff, I know. :)
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: You and me both.
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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    More interesting info on F-22 speeds and flight characteristics. You've gotta read this.


    [www.codeonemagazine.com]


    Also, LockMart does state that the Raptor will exceed M2.0, and their chief test pilot has said that it has a top speed greater than M2.4. Incidentally, I've been boomed by Raptors on test flights in the supersonic corridor that crosses through TN and GA; it's very startling (think of a loud thunderclap on a cloudless day), but when you spot the jets at altitude, it's totally cool.

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    03/20/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: That's an interesting article.


    I wonder, though, how the aircraft can exceed Mach 2 without variable inlets. It seems I need to go back and brush up on aerodynamic breakthroughs in the past decade.


    I had no idea that it was even possible.


    Although, I wonder if one possibility is the fact that the Raptor has "snake" inlets, both to hide the engine fan blades from radar and to accomodate the sidewinders.


    I wonder if perhaps that, in and of itself, is enough to slow the airflow?

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    Image of Jeb_Hoge Jeb_Hoge
    03/20/09

    @pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: However they're doing it, the F-22 has got some serious black magic that makes it work.


    By the way, Northrop-Grumman just released a patent (with line drawings) for what is expected to be NGB-X. Four engines, smaller than a B-2, looks like a diamond with wings.

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    03/20/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: I have me some studying to do this weekend.


    I am curious as to how they manage they managed to get that fast with fixed inlets, and I must now try and find the drawings for the NGB-X

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    Image of Chaparral Chaparral
    03/20/09

    @pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: The inlets use the shockwave from the supersonic air to slow the air down within the inlet, infact so does the F-15. This shaping allows for subsonic air to enter the engine, but it only works within a certain mach range. The movable inlets on the F-15 allow for a wider range of mach numbers. The raptor just benefits because of better analytical tools.


    Anything I have heard from knowledgable people tells me the top speed of the F-22 is pretty close the F-15, but not higher even though the raptor has more powerful engines. The difference is that the performance of the F-22 is much more useable. In that it can hit its top speed while still carrying 6 missiles and lots of fuel, the F-15 on the other hand would be slower if it had to carry the same amount of fuel and weapons. Also it flys much faster and higher without thrust augmenters (afterburners in common parlance).

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    03/20/09

    @Chaparral: A heart click for the explanation.
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    For the True Planelopnik fan, go to this show:


    I've been to a number of them. You get to stroll next to them, you're there when they start their engines, and they taxi through to spectators on their way to the all grass runway.


    Last time I attended, there were at least 4 Boeing B-17's, 12 C-47's, an actual flying Lanchaster Bomber, a PBY Catalina, P-51's galore, Corsairs, Hellcats, P-40's, and a lot more. Unfortunately, it's the same weekend as the 24 Hours of LeMons New England....

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    Image of Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    Meh- airplanes should have internal combustion engines; jet engines should be reserved for 1964 Galaxie XLs, the way nature intended.


    Also, nose art needs work.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @Slantsick, with Infinite Improbability Drive:


    I'd heart click again for that if I could.


    Nice Flying Tigers picture.

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    Image of IamZardoz IamZardoz
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    We could buy four (4) of these for every one (1) F-22. You make the call.
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    Image of Rock517 Rock517
    03/20/09

    @IamZardoz: One F-22 could shoot down at least four of these in air combat, so I'd take the latter. I watched a show on History/Military/Discovery about the F-22 and its capabilities are amazing. The F-15 pilots that went up against it in mock dog fights/air combat scenarios never even got a chance to see it before they were "killed." It was something like 2 F-22s to 6-8 F-15s, too. ::cue "God Bless America"::
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    Image of Daniel Horney Daniel Horney
    03/20/09

    @Rock517...now mostly lurking: One of my friend's dads was an instructor or something like that for a squadron of F-22s down in Florida. They were practicing with some Israelis in F-15s and the F-22s got dominated in the first sortie that they had. The next two, however, were a slightly different story.
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    03/20/09

    @Daniel Horney: There's an important point in here...the F-22 is not God Mode for fighters. It's possible to get a kill on one, if you stage a scenario the right way. But if I was an enemy pilot and heard that there was a flight of F-22s in the airspace, I'd be landing right quick.
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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    03/20/09

    @IamZardoz: I'd take an F-15 and a bunch of Veyrons, Lambos, Ferraris, Porsches, Mustangs, Camaros etc etc etc. After all, this is a car blog.


    Just spec my Camaro without the stupid wing on the back, please. And my GT-R without the dragon.

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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    03/20/09

    @Jeb_Hoge: Nicely phrased.


    As ever, the "God Mode" aspect of the airplane is supplied by the skills of the pilot flying it.

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    Image of Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig) Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    Isn't comparing an F-15 to an F-22 sort of like saying a Veyron is faster than a 911 Turbo?
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    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    03/20/09

    In reply to Boeing Reveals F-15 Silent Eagle With More Stealth Ability For Flying The Unfriendly Skies
    From the ePRS (US Patent No. c11077983) Planeopnik Edition (beta):


    Boeing introduces the Silent Eagle, a modified F-15 Eagle with more stealth and increased efficiency for the downmarket, green customer.


    New for the Silent Eagle are aerodynamic enhancements such as canted vertical stabilizers and new Conformal Fuel Tanks (CFTs) which can house an array of weapons including AIM-9, AIM-120, JDAM, and SBT. For a retro look, the conventional weapons load can be carried in the current-generation CFT.


    Reliability and survivability enhancements include a new Digital Flight Control System, Digital Electronic Warfare System (DEWS), and Advanced Electronic Scanning Array (AESA) radar.


    Pricing has not been announced, but is expected to be in the $100 million range for new aircraft. See your local Boeing representative to place your order today!

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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    03/20/09

    @engineerd is functionally ЯetardeD: At that price, I expect the option of choosing the color of my interior.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    03/20/09

    @SirNotAppearing: I'm a bit surprised they aren't offering Alcantara.
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    03/20/09

    @engineerd is functionally ЯetardeD:


    I think that may be the first-ever ePRS translation that isn't dripping with sarcasm. You must love aircraft as much as I do.

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    03/20/09

    @pauljones-Jo Schmo's saintly and opposite twin.: I tried to put some sarcasm in there, but I just couldn't. The F-15 is my all-time favoritest airplane evar!
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    03/20/09

    @engineerd is functionally ЯetardeD:


    I'll pretend that I didn't just hear you say that you like the F-15 more than the F-14.


    Not that I could hear you say that over the internet in the first place, but you know.

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