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    09/27/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Honestly, the Renault 5 is a mistake. The two generations share nothing other than a resemblance in design.
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    10/09/09

    @Instructor: The first gen R5 was built in Iran until 2000. Parts of it were still in production in 2006 as the Pars Khondro Sepand P.K. (on a Kia Pride chassis, no less).
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    09/09/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Crown Victoria? Lincoln Town Car? Bodies updated, chassis/engines the same 1990-present.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/09/09

    @BlueBomb: No, major rear suspension redesign in '98.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Hey Murilee, just in case you haven't thrown your laptop against the wall in frustration, I have another candidate for Part II: The Lotus Esprit, produced from 1976 to.... what? A week ago yesterday? :-)

    Maybe you need another list (who knows, you might be a masochist) of "Longest running exotics". Surely the Pantera and Esprit would be near the top of the list, along with the Countach, Diablo and Jaguar E-type. Of course, some clown would STILL want the Jeep CJ on the list. :-)
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @Drachen: The Pantera is in Part II for sure. Still not sure about the Esprit- it went through many changes during its thousand-year run.
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    Image of BLeyland BLeyland
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Because it seems there’s not enough people trying to make you bang your head against the wall Murilee, why don’t you try taking a look at some of the 20+ year runs of some Bristol models?
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    09/08/09

    @BLeyland: I was just searching their terribly limited pool of information. Basically, a continuous chassis needs to be confirmed between the Brigand/Britannia (603 S3) and Blenheim (603 S4). This seems quite plausible, and the even more likely 603-603 S3 link would just be showing off. As it stands, each just seems to be a mild restyle and rename, with a few variables in drivetrain and suspension.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Sorry, but world's "oldest" car made in same factory and assembly line is VAZ 2121 Niva. First car came 1977 and still in production. 32 years, no other car can't beat that record. IF, it can be M-B G-Wagen.

    Wikipedia:
    The Niva (2121) was Lada's (VAZ/AvtoVAZ) first non-Fiat based model. Much of its mechanicals are carried over from the Fiat based Lada models, though the body, four-wheel drive system, and front suspension were designed by Lada. Production began in 1977 and continues today (as of 2008) with only minor changes to the engine, rear hatch design, and interior trim levels.
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    Murilee Martin promoted this comment unicmanest was starred unicmanest was unstarred
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    09/09/09

    @unicmanest: The Niva seems to be more of a truck than a car, but maybe.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    error 404: Peugeot not found
    also, the mk2 passat was called the "quantum" here in the states
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    Murilee Martin promoted this comment Edited by 2trips at 09/08/09 2:58 PM 2trips was starred 2trips was unstarred
    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @2trips: The Peugeot 404 is on the list.

    The photo of the MK2 Passat is taken from this Jalopnik Quantum post.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    it holds first place but im a little disappointed that you didn't count the Beetle as running thru present day. I will accept it due to a serious lack of interchangeability between the New & Old Beetle. The distinctive body is still essentially the same however.
    And yes (as I am sure a few realized by reading the article) you could have same production year New & Old beetles sitting in your driveway if you knew where to find an old beetle dealer!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/08/09

    @justsomereportingguy: Hey, there have been half a dozen distinct Mustangs, but they've all been sporty RWD two-doors!

    I do respect the New Jettle, but it's not the same at all (aside from the shape and the budvase).
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    09/08/09

    @justsomereportingguy: Serious lack of interchangeabillity? They're as different as two vehicles can be!
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    I was going to type a bunch of stuff, but UDMan already covered it.

    Carry on.
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    Image of NathaniaDenby NathaniaDenby
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Sorry to say it, but you have missed the Morgan 4/4. It was initially built in 1936, and barring the years during the war has been built every day since. They are still available new, just not in the U.S. where safety restrictions prevent it being imported, or so I last read.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @NathaniaDenby: All right, the 4/4 will be in Part II. It's kind of a special case, but what the hell.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Miata. Ford Ranger.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @UnwinShako: No. No. RTFA.
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    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    Even with those stipulations are you sure the Crown Vic doesn't make that list? I can't think of a substantial upgrade to the Panther platform has received, and it still has that 4.6L Modular V8 from 1992.
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    09/08/09

    @ndhapple: Most pre-92 Panther chassis components won't fit my '97 P71, plus the rear suspension had a major revision for the '98 model year (19 years after the first Panther cars).
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    Image of EvaTethys EvaTethys
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    No volvo 140/240?
    No Mercedes G wagon?
    LAME!
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @EvaTethys: The 140 and 240 are way too different to be considered the same car, and the 240 didn't reach 20 years on its own.

    The G wagon is a truck. If you'd RTFA, you'd know that I didn't include trucks in the list, and why.
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    Image of Airport_Whiskey Airport_Whiskey
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    You forgot the Trabant 601, made from 1963 to 1991.
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @Airport_Whiskey: Yes, I did. It'll be in Part II, along with the Toyota Century, De Tomaso Pantera, Saab 96, and quite a few others.
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    Image of RachelSklar RachelSklar
    09/08/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    I love that this was posted yesterday, with 50 images, and has 46,379 pageviews, and the Megan Fox Mega-Gallery was posted Wednesday with over 200 images and has 55,602. This really IS a car site. No fucking around. Mad props!
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    Image of Murilee Martin Murilee Martin
    09/08/09

    @RachelSklar: If it gets enough Digg votes, it should be able to beat Megan by tomorrow.
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    09/08/09

    @RachelSklar: Murilee is old school Jalopnik. Megan Fox is new shape Jalopnik. Outright factions have been known to break out and eye each other suspiciously.
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    09/07/09

    In reply to The Ultimate Automotive Survivors: 50 Cars Made For Over 20 Years
    What about the Jaguar XJS? Produced from 1975-1996 in the same body shape.
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    09/08/09

    @ZalikaDadillac: I'll include the XJS in Part II.
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