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    11/17/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    This show is gorgeous in HD. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
      #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    F

    [www.youtube.com] #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Part E
    [www.youtube.com] #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    "BBC iPlayer is down for maintenance. We'll be back shortly."

    Aww F*** #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Now that Top Gear is filmed and aired in high definition, it just seems plain wrong to watch it in low-resolution YouTube form. Do yourself a favor and snag the 720p rip. Top Gear in HD is just plain epic. #topgear
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    Image of bens bens
    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Instead of promoting the outright piracy of Top Gear, how about Jalopnik does something good and starts a petition to BBC America to let them know we'd like current Top Gear episodes? The only way most of us see Top Gear is by downloading the torrent. BBC America is showing season 11. It has enough of a following that people would get excited about seeing the current episodes. Top Gear is in the press (including American) and it has a lot of potential for American audiences. Technically there's no reason why we shouldn't watch it.

    If you watch and enjoy the torrent, please support the BBC. I pay for it cause I like Top Gear and Torchwood. Even though they're late on episodes, they're getting support. The only excuse Top Gear has for going off the air is Jeremy Clarkson's ego, not loss of money. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @bens: not to crap on your wedding dress, but we support the BBC, and we do get it in America, but we are on a one-season delay because the BBC wanted an exorbitant amount of money for "live season" rights. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @firepwr: Can you read? #topgear
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    bens was starred bens was unstarred
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    11/16/09

    @bens: I read as well as you make sense.

    You are saying don't torrent Top Gear, and instead petition NBC/CBS/ABC buy rights to Top Gear, or have BBC America show the current season (which they obviously know they could have marketed very well), all of which has been attempted.

    ABC tried to buy Top Gear's US rights and the amount the BBC was looking to charge for those rights would have cost them (in the first season) about 130% MORE than what they valued the same season of "Lost" at. This was in 2006/2007. (Granted, it was for the rights to all seasons, but they didn't expect much from running old episodes because of the nature of the subject matter)

    Then NBC contracted for Top Gear America, and one of the stipulations (which I heard from the same ABC guy) was that BBC's Top Gear couldn't be shown "live season" in the US. As far as I know, because that contract is still valid (NBC didn't surrender the rights, they just shelved it), we will not be getting the "live season" of Top Gear in the US other than by torrent. Petition or not.

    Hey, look, I can READ and WRITE! #topgear
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    Mobius promoted this comment firepwr was starred firepwr was unstarred
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    11/16/09

    @firepwr: Those contracts and all is the same reason why the UK shows top TV series (Heroes etc) a week or more later than the US. With the exception of a special episode of The Simpsons, that is. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @Mobius: Agreed, and if it takes a year for American Idol (or something) to be shown in the UK, I am not going to bitch about the Brits torrenting it! #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Anyone know what the Stig was fiddling with on the BMW during the hot lap? Something on the center console, I know it can't be the shifter because both are automatics. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs: The 7 series has semi-auto options so it probably is the 'shifter'. May does the same in the earlier video too. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs: Think that's the i-drive. Controls all the spangly bits of the BMW. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @Big_Adam: The iDrive is the last thing you want to fiddle with at 150 mph! #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @daemonoid: Didn't know those semi autos were so effective. I always thought the dual clutch was the best, didn't know semi-suto slushboxes were effective at apeed. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @not_a_virus.exe.vbs: I wouldn't call it a 'slushbox'. Remember how quickly the IS-F's 8-speed "automatic" shifts? #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @A strolling player: SLUSH SLUSH SLUSH. Well at least till I drive it I will call it a slushbox. I REALLY like the dual clutch in the new M3, really smooth takeoff, no chunking like a regular automatic. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Awesome stuff. Can't wait to see what the rest of the series has in store.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/16/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Shhhhhh. You're not supposed to admit the existence of Top Gear on torrent. It's like admitting you can get free porn online.

    It so happens that they both result in the same thing. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Interest for 5 minutes, then moving on?

    .. #topgear
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    Pessimippopotamus promoted this comment an gucci skyline mane was starred an gucci skyline mane was unstarred
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    11/16/09

    @an gucci skyline mane: Where is the disapprove commenter button?

    You watch the last 5 minutes of this episode and tell me that it was uninteresting, I'd break your nose for lying. #topgear
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    11/15/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    While I wait for the episode to load, I will say this: Top Gear will never air on a commercial network in the US.

    I've been planning and writing and thinking about this deeply. Simply put, money and sponsors are the mother's milk for a network. The revenue from advertising go to new programming, overhead, salaries and other expenses. The networks can't air the show because it may offend sponsors such as Chevrolet. He who pays the piper calls the tune. To contort to avoid offending sponsors would harm everything about Top Gear that we've come to know and love. An American version of Top Gear would be forever compared to the original, which will offend purists and alienate the fans; for example, compare the response of original Battlestar Galactica fans to the recent adaptation.

    More importantly, would Top Gear even attract enough advertising money, particularly if the automakers are offended by a poor review? How would the local network affiliates accept the show?

    The advertising ratings are determined by eyeballs watching both the shows and the commercials. You need the live program rating (as the program is being aired live), live-plus-same-day rating (program is DVR'd, watched same day), live-plus-seven-days (same, but over course of a week) and the important commercial-plus-three rating. The CP3 rating measures the commercials to see how many people watched to determine advertising rates.

    If you don't think money doesn't matter, take a look at Emily's Reasons Why Not. It was a 2006 dramedy starring Heather Graham and was cancelled after one episode which attracted only 6.2 million viewers. ABC was said to have spent millions on promotion, including airtime, billboards and radio ads. While the situation may not be analogous, any network version of Top Gear must beat dominate other shows in it's time slot to justify the expense of production which could easily be very costly.

    Furthermore, it is unlikely that the BBC original Top Gear will ever air on any American commercial network. The guys only make less than a dozen episodes per year and a network requires around 22 episodes per season.

    An American adaptation of Top Gear similar to the aborted NBC version will need this many episodes and after a while, the show will jump the shark and lose in quality. While the stunts and gags will be funny for a while, eventually the writers and hosts burn out after four or five years; see Aaron Sorkin leaving The West Wing by season five after writing practically each episode himself. Or watch the first five years of SNL when the crew fell apart on drugs or watch David E. Kelley's Boston Legal which ended in 2008 after descending into catchphrases and characters turn into cartoons.

    The best solution to this is simple: put Top Gear on PBS. Here are five reasons:

    1. PBS is mostly commercial free and does not depend as heavily on corporate sponsorship like the big three networks. Consequently, PBS would be (mostly) free from retribution from, say, General Motors, if the Top Gear crew rips the Chevy Aveo (and rightfully so). Furthermore, commercials won't interrupt the show as it would on the networks or on cable; both PBS and the BBC are commercial free, making it easier to plug in BBC episodes onto PBS. Finally, being on PBS, the show would provide a relatively neutral stage to test cars.
    2. PBS has had a long history of importing British television to America from Masterpiece Theater to Doctor Who. Even some original programming on PBS was based on the British; for example, Frontier House was based on the The 1900 House according to Wikipedia.
    3. Top Gear would probably be an excellent addition to the current primetime lineup on PBS of Antiques Roadshow and documentaries. It would also be better than PBS's current car show, Motorweek.
    4. Top Gear in Britain has a season, a "series," of usually less than a dozen episodes; series 13 had only seven episodes. An American television network would usually need twenty or so episodes from September to June and simply airing UK Top Gear in the US would not be easy. An American version of Top Gear would need at least 22 episodes per season. To date, there has only been only 111 episodes of Top Gear (original).
    5. NBC (and any other commercial network) will probably screw it up. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @Blue387: Somebody give this guy a raise. And, uh, call PBS. Now. #topgear
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    11/15/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    That was a God Damn big Dam. #topgear
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    Image of OM617952 OM617952
    11/15/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    Since when is a Chevy Lacetti an 'merican car? #topgear
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    11/15/09

    @OM617952: 'merican branded car. Sorry. Good point. #topgear
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    11/16/09

    @OM617952: You can still buy it in the US.
    [www.suzukiauto.com]

    Or rather. Could.
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    11/15/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    that is some cotomer sevis. #topgear
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    Image of eggwich del fiero eggwich del fiero
    11/15/09

    @lilwillie: Seriously! #topgear
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    Image of Stan_TheCaddy Stan_TheCaddy
    11/15/09

    In reply to Top Gear Season 14, Episode 1: YouTube Open Thread
    full episode - [www.casttv.com] #topgear
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    11/15/09

    @Stan_TheCaddy: your cotomer sevis is strong, too. I'd happily buy a motorcycle frame online from this guy! #topgear
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/15/09

    @Stan_TheCaddy: Yeah, that is pretty trick. Nice link action. #topgear
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    11/15/09

    @Stan_TheCaddy: Awesome, thanks for the link! #topgear
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