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    Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last

    EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt

    Lotus Designs Extended Range Electric Crate Engine

    Chevy Volt Visits Tennessee, Squeals Like Pig

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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    I'm going to pop open a cold one on the day GM officially announces there will never be a Chevy Volt mass produced for the 'Merican consumer. #laautoshow
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: I'll just wearily shake my head. Then I'll pop a bottle of whiskey, but not necessarily out of a sense of celebration. #laautoshow
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/17/09

    @Ford Tempo Fanatic: Based on what I've seen and know, you'll never get a chance to pop that cold one open. Sorry. #laautoshow
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Will the cruze be better than the fiesta? #laautoshow
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Is this the car we knew Korea could build for us? #laautoshow
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    Too bad this can't be a direct-injection 1.4L TD. Then we'd get 260 torques and 65 MPG.

    Oh, and it'd last forever...or until some bonehead put gasoline in it a 15th time. #laautoshow
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    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    11/18/09

    @that ain't the way to have fun, son:
    It's available in Europe already, with a 2 liter turbodiesel with 150 HP. It's not very economical though, for European standards that is.
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son promoted this comment duurtlang was starred duurtlang was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/18/09

    @duurtlang: Which means it slam-dunks anything, here.

    Grrrrr.

    #tips
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    09' 1.4 GTDI: 140 hp
    90' 5.0 L02 v8 (Base): 140 hp

    We did come a long way. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    In reply to Chevy Family Photo Op: Mass-Marketing MPG And MPG For The Masses, Together At Last
    We used to get awesome North American premieres like the Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari 599 GTB and the Venturi Fétish.

    This year we get some run of the mill Chevy and a Toyota van. #laautoshow
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    Image of ShantJ ShantJ
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: The Fétish is sold here? #laautoshow
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    Image of wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx wrx-tyrannosaurusWrx
    11/17/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Its too true. Sad, really, but we actually stand a chance of buying these cars. #laautoshow
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/17/09

    @ShantJ: Is the Fétish even sold anywhere? #laautoshow
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    Image of slysolstice07 slysolstice07
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    When are they going to figure out that just because it doesn't NEED a grill, it should still get one. Otherwise it looks like a slab of concrete........as shown in the picture!
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    HurtsSoGood promoted this comment slysolstice07 was starred slysolstice07 was unstarred
    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    09/08/09

    @slysolstice07: The only reason the nose end of these EVs are flat like this is because there would ordinarily be a radiator behind it. No radiator means the nose can be shaped more like that of an aircraft - parabolic in shape so as to be more aerodynamic.

    Do mid-engined sports cars have grilles? Hell no. Why should EVs?
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    I'm not going to comment on the styling, that's been covered.

    However, think about what you would do if you were building a new company and needed a platform. Would you design your own? Do you have the capital to invest in design, engineering, modeling, tooling, plant space, prototyping, testing, etc.? Probably not. Instead, you can start off with another company's platform, license it from them, give it your own look and focus on what you set out to do. This is the route Musk took with Tesla. He licensed a Lotus platform for the Roadster.

    However, if you're going to go to the trouble, why not license a platform that has proven popular over the years? A platform that can claim to be the best selling in it's class for 30+ years? One that is useful, if not flashy?

    Good job, EMC. You're doing it right.
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    09/08/09

    @engineerd: Out! Out with your logic and rational business plans! We're supposed to build hype and vaporware and net us some buzzword venture capital like it's 1999!

    Actually you pegged it... in fact I meant to say the same thing in a subsequent post (before my AMC-dig got me flogged).

    The styling isn't something that can't be fixed with a proper sense of scale: make the lights a little bigger to fill up that massive void, and you'd have something a bit more palatable IMHO.

    Also, their logo is rather clever, once you figure it out.
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    Image of Feds Feds
    09/08/09

    @engineerd: They even went to an established company with expertise in multi-voltage wiring in mobile platforms (Gulf Stream Coach) for startup money and assistance with technical issues...

    this is crazy enough that it might just work!
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    Goingincirclez promoted this comment Feds was starred Feds was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    09/08/09

    @engineerd: You know what's funny about this post, Mike Levine (from PickupTrucks.com) and I were talking about hybrids a while ago and how perfect pickups are for the tech while nobody's really doing it (GM light hybrids don't really count). Plenty of space between the frame rails for huge batteries, plenty of fleet buyers interested in high fuel economy and able to write of higher prices, a severe duty cycle to prove your hybrid system, easier platforms to work with, etc. Not only that but improving fuel economy as a percentage provides much greater fuel savings over a car hybrid.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    09/08/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: I've always thought pickups, delivery trucks, and even large SUVs to a certain extent provide the best place for hybrid technology to be exploited. For exactly the reasons you stated.

    UPS agrees (in clever fashion, I might add). [www.cnn.com]
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    Flash!
    Aa-aahh!

    He's for every one of us!
    Stand for every one of us!
    He save with a mighty hand
    Every man every woman
    Every child in the land, he's Flash!

    (with great love and respect to Queen)

    I don't care what you guys say. A fullsize getting anything better than 30mpg is worth a headline.
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    Image of Feds Feds
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    I love it... A 1.2 in a big ole' pick'em'up. Give it a 6000lb tow rating and we'll definitely be talking.
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    acarr260 promoted this comment Feds was starred Feds was unstarred
    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    09/08/09

    @Feds: Towing is rated at 5,700 pounds. Close enough?
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    Image of Feds Feds
    09/08/09

    @#c15244088: Close enough for me... Race car and open trailer. That's all I need.

    Is black allowed on hybrids, or does it have to be grey or algae green?
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    09/09/09

    @Feds: I think you can get normal colors now, but you still have to get hybrid badges that are three times that of the normal models. Ya know, so everyone can see that you're saving the world and all.
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    Image of Z71 Z71
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    Good Idea, Bad Execution. The front end is definately more aerodynamic because of these changes, but it looks really sad, like it wants to be put out of its misery.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    The horror.
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    Image of skaycog was here skaycog was here
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    Is is 'based' on a Ford F-150 or is it an F-150 to start with? I'm a little confused (what else is new?) Whichever way it is, this has to be the ugliest front end I've ever seen.
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    Image of GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls GIC asks not for whom the bell tolls
    09/08/09

    In reply to EMC Turns Ford F-150 Pickup Into A Chevy Volt
    That sound you hear? Way off in the distance there? That's the Cry of a Thousand D'ohs, accompanied by the percussive report of foreheads being slapped (and hopefully some rolling), echoing through the tubes of GM's Detriot Ren-Cen.

    Because some heretofore unheard-of, fly-by-night electro-tuner shop has now outclassed the Volt by 20 MPGe. With a truck.

    230 is certainly sounding like a less magical number with each passing day.

    Memo to GM: Underpromise. Overdeliver. And - at the risk of great pun-ditude, keep your competitors in the dark!
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    Image of wojo wojo
    09/08/09

    In reply to Lotus Designs Extended Range Electric Crate Engine
    Looks like Elon Musk's "associates" are going to pay Lotus a visit and "convince" them not to put this into production.
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    skierpage promoted this comment wojo was starred wojo was unstarred
    Image of skierpage skierpage
    09/08/09

    @wojo-the newly visible man-ardi: awesome comment, great job!:

    Yes, maybe someone (like Lotus themselves?) could show up Tesla by putting this Lotus engine and half as many batteries as the Roadster in the Elise chassis, saving about 175 kg and thus potentially giving better acceleration. The mystery with every range-extender is what it's like to drive with a powerful depleted battery and a weak generator. Stay away from long inclines.

    Tesla toyed with a hybrid/range-extended version of the Model S, but they've stayed battery-only with three range options (batteries, moah batteries and DAMN that's a lot of batteries). Nor is Fisker a customer/competitor for this tiny engine, 35 kW is nothing compared to the 194 kW 2.0L turbo GM engine that will supposedly be in the Fisker Karma. Even the range-extender 1.4 L in the Chevy Volt is 53 kW, a lot more than 35 kW.
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