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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    09/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis Shows A New Mr. Ed-Like Grille
    Glad to hear it. I went and looked at the Genesis last weekend, and I'll freely admit to being impressed. The comment I made was that it seemed like it was everything Lexus should be, but isn't. The sole exception was the grille, which just looks cheap and uninspired.

    The Equus, on the other hand, looks classy. It might be worth looking into... and similarly the Genesis, with a bit of a facelift.
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    09/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis Shows A New Mr. Ed-Like Grille
    Say what you want about Hyundai, but they do merit a bit of credit for destroying the bell curve. It took Japan, Inc. (OK so I'm thinking mainly of Toyota but same roughly applies to Honda, Mazda, Datsun/Nissan) about 40-50 years to seriously threaten for consideration in the primary car markets (Base/Econobox, standard/family, sports, luxury).

    It has taken Hyundai about half that time.

    Forget Moore's Law. If China and India reckon anywhere near this kind of learning curve, the world as we know it is about to get very interesting indeed.
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    Image of Miscellanea Miscellanea
    09/03/09

    @Goingincirclez: I agree. Hyundai's certainly been quietly taking notes in the back of the class. Now its presentation is destroying the rest of the class.
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis Shows A New Mr. Ed-Like Grille

    Ha! Hyundai is at the back of the line for having a toothy grin. And having a supercharged engine is nothing compared to this. Yowza, indeed!
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    09/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis Shows A New Mr. Ed-Like Grille
    A supercharged Hyundai? Yowza indeed!

    At least I can drive to local Korean BBQ quicker.
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    Image of Ash78, cube farmer Ash78, cube farmer
    09/03/09

    In reply to 2011 Hyundai Genesis Shows A New Mr. Ed-Like Grille
    I still think they're pressing their luck. I'm as much a Hyundai cheerleader as you'll find, but to paraphrase Robert Downey's character from Tropic Thunder, "You never go full Phaeton!"

    (Edit: I'm talking about Equus, not Genesis)
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    Image of SethEaston SethEaston
    08/13/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    Seriously, Hyundai? You DO know that one can get 1-2year old used E-classes for less dough?
    Hell, a friend of mine bought a 2006 Mercedes S550 for $45K.
    Come on now.
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    Image of Old Grimey Old Grimey
    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    They really need to buy the rights to, say, the Packard, Oldsmobile or even LeBaron or Imperial names, since nobody I know (including myself) would admit to wanting, much less BUYING a Hyundai that costs as much as a brand-new German or Japanese luxo-sport sedan, and those four names I listed above still mean something to most Americans. Or maybe calling EVERY expensive Hyundai, including this, the Genesis and Coupe (not Scoupe), and maybe the Santa Fe a "Genesis".
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    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    I was in Seoul for past two weeks. My biz counterpart picked me up in one of these. I first thought it was a Lexux LS. When my head goes bald, I know I would want to get me a driver and smoke a fat cigar riding in the back of this car. Shit! Where is da sham-pagn!
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    Image of geschmidtt geschmidtt
    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    My response to Hyundai will always be tainted by my experience driving the early 90s $6,000 Excel my sister paid $9,500. It sounded like a sewing machine and was simply terrifying to drive over 55 mph. She sold it 2 years later for $4,000 so only lost $5,000 on the deal... LOL. I know I am wrong but it is a physical response.
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    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    So will Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel be the spokesperson?
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    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    To all the naysayers; You actually have to see it in person. I did, at the New York International Auto Show, and it was truly magnificent. I was completely bored with most of the product introductions there, including the Bentleys, but this car really stood out. The interior was something to see, given it's price target.
    I'm afraid it will lose the hood ornament when it reaches the US.
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/12/09


    @UDMan: God dammit! I like hood ornaments you know?
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    08/12/09

    @UDMan: Why? I'm sure the number of gored pedestrians would only be in the hundreds.
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    Image of jaymcminn jaymcminn
    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    I hope this does well. I really, really do. It's distinctive and elegant, with a little bit of Bentley Continental coming through in the character lines. This would never have worked if they hadn't released the Genesis first- somehow the idea of a really nice Korean Buick makes the idea of a Korean Lexus LS more palatable.
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    Image of goatrope goatrope
    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    I'm not going to buy this one, because I just know that in 2012 Hyundai will release a bigger, more ambitious $85K Maybach rival.
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    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    This just the first step to the day when Jalopnik will publish an article titled: Lexus launches a new Hyundai fighter!
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    08/12/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Flagship Sedan Coming To The U.S.
    I understand the issue with a 50-60k Hyundai as VW had the same problem with their Phaeton (even more $$) but is branding the car as a second-channel marque too 1990's?
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