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    Image of ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig.
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    That's easy. All we have to do is double the size of a gallon.
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    FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway promoted this comment ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. was starred ☠Grяrяrяrяrя, portrait of a chickenwolfmoosepig. was unstarred
    Image of duurtlang duurtlang
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    35.5? We've almost got that already on this side of the pond. I'm quite sure it's way above 30 at this moment.
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    FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway promoted this comment duurtlang was starred duurtlang was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/15/09

    @duurtlang: You also have mass diesel availability, manual transmissions, and station wagons instead of Chelsea tractors.

    Britain gets two things right: car purchases (usually) and traffic lights. I love that yellow-before-green thing.
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    Edited by MushyHeirloom at 09/15/09 7:40 PM MushyHeirloom was starred MushyHeirloom was unstarred
    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    You know, if we just had safety and emissions standards that matched up with the rest of civilization, this would be a nonissue.
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    Image of TTopJohn TTopJohn
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Here's hoping for some loopholes big enough to drive a Suburban through. Or at least a Camaro SS...
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    AmishJohn promoted this comment TTopJohn was starred TTopJohn was unstarred
    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    09/15/09

    @TTopJohn: Nope, they're supposed to close the SUV loophole.
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    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    40 MPG fleetwide by the time we run out of oil.
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    Image of LoganSix LoganSix
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    "The administration estimated the requirements would cost up to $1,300 per new vehicle by 2016 - but that it would take just three years to pay off that investment"

    Huh? W'ah? Um, I think if people don't feel that $1,300 on top of the price of the car is worth it, they just won't buy new cars and the auto companies won't be paying off that investment.
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    engineerd promoted this comment LoganSix was starred LoganSix was unstarred
    Image of engineerd engineerd
    09/15/09

    @LoganSix: Exactly why CAFE is a failure. It tries to force the carmakers to build cars that Congress -- not consumers in general -- want. If our government was really serious about this they would raise the gas tax*. However, this is considered political suicide, particularly at this time. Instead, they make the cowardly and politically expedient move of putting the onus on the car companies to ensure their sales meet some arbitrary average fuel economy regardless of what people will actually buy.

    *I don't support this, however if reducing fuel usage in this country is the goal, this is the way to do it.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    09/15/09

    In reply to Obama Unveils New Fuel Economy Rules
    Why not just round it up to an even 100 mpg.
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    Image of Captain America Captain America
    07/29/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    The list is great! These are the same people who want to run your health care.

    So, you're on the "table" and the end has been sawed off your femur--oops, the list just changed.
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    IN THE FACE! promoted this comment Captain America was starred Captain America was unstarred
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    07/29/09

    @Captain America: lawl, topicality: your post has none.

    But thanks for playing the random poorly-informed opinion game!
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    IN THE FACE! was starred IN THE FACE! was unstarred
    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    07/29/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    Oddly, my car's not listed but shows up as 19MPG under the old rules and 18MPG (and therefore eligible, I think) under the new ones - 1999 Lexus RX300 AWD. Looks like I'm going turbodiesel shopping.
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    Image of B1663R B1663R
    07/29/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    ok i somewhat agree with the lists - i call bullshit on the old crown vics being ineligible and i foresee a future of e30 BMW's being killed off by the hundreds

    people, just bring them to the junkyard do you really want to piss off uncle Sam?
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    Image of fanboy.took.my.star fanboy.took.my.star
    07/29/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    so theyll refuse an old supra, even if you brought it to them....genius!!!
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    Image of TowMe TowMe
    07/29/09

    @urbanturban666: More to the point, what were they smoking when they thought someone would trade in these:
    86 2004 Mazda RX-8
    78 1996 Mitsubishi 3000 GT Spyder
    44 1991 BMW M3
    17 1987 Porsche 911
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    cyclopticgaze promoted this comment TowMe was starred TowMe was unstarred
    Image of timestep timestep
    07/29/09

    @TowMe: why is the rx-8 there... isnt this about clunkers... not relatiivley new cars...
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    IN THE FACE! promoted this comment timestep was starred timestep was unstarred
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    07/29/09

    @timestep: the rx-8 is just that terrible.
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    Image of mustang5507 mustang5507
    07/28/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    Soooo anyone who owns one of the following would think they own a clunker, why??

    -Buick Grand National
    -(clean) Merc E-class
    -(clean) Ford Thunderbird SC
    -BMW M3
    -Mitsu 3000GT spyder

    o.O??
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    Image of TurboRefrigerator TurboRefrigerator
    07/28/09

    @mustang5507: You would be surprised of the number of people that think 60,000 miles on a car is long in the tooth. Hell, of all the cars I have had, I can count on one hand how many I purchased that had less than 100,000 on the odometer. I don't think I could ever junk something that was still in any running condition. I would rather give it to a charity if it came down to it.
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    urbanturban666 promoted this comment TurboRefrigerator was starred TurboRefrigerator was unstarred
    Image of fanboy.took.my.star fanboy.took.my.star
    07/29/09

    @TurboRefrigerator: in japan most people give up there cars when they hit 60000...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    07/29/09

    @TurboRefrigerator:My grandfather just gave away his not-so-great 87,000-mile '97 Mystique to charity. The flatbed that came to get it had the name of an auto recycling company on the door. Either they rented/bought and didn't debadge the wrecker, or someone at said charity is amazingly dense, as the car's worth several hundred bucks running and a lot less as scrap.
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    07/28/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    On the bright side there is only enough cash in this program for 250k cars.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    07/28/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: Thank God.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    07/28/09

    In reply to Full List Of Disqualified Cars Under Cash For Clunkers Refresh
    Wait. A 1987 Mercury Grand Marquis Wagon isn't eligible, but a 1997 VW Passat Wagon is ?!?!?

    There is something bad wrong with that list.
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    Edited by DoctorNine at 07/28/09 8:40 PM DoctorNine was starred DoctorNine was unstarred
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