I think BW is mistaking "ugly" for "different". I personally think its a ploy to have us all driving boring, like-styled econoboxes that the automakes can churn out cheaply and mark up to a huge degree, with almost zero styling effort put into them. 'Cause, you know, if we all start demanding something different, they'll have to waste all that money designing different cars, and that would cut into the bottom line.
My bottom line: I want a Tucker. Cd: 0.27. Name a modern car that can match _that_. #uglycars
@digginit: And which would you rather drive, a Tucker Torpedo or a Prius? Be careful, your answer may result in expulsion from Jalopnik if incorrect. #uglycars
The Wartburg 353 is on this list with the following caption: "Can you find one thing you like about this East German car?"
I think that's a challenge.
Oh Wartburg 353, how do I wuv thee, wet me count da ways...
1.) You are red. Red is the most awesome color ever. It's in sunsets, fire, fire engines, clown noses, and ketchup. It's also a popular sports car color. Shame on BusinessWeek for hating on not one, but six red cars.
2.) The engine. It's a two stroke with just seven moving parts. SEVEN. I can count that on my fingers, even after the heavy casualties Lefty took in the Battle of Cannes-Opener. I can even wiggle my fingers to signify that they are moving parts. Spirit fingers go!
3.) It was made in East Germany. I mean, the country no longer exists. People love orphaned cars, right? Except in this case, not just the company went under, it was the whole communist block. I mean it would be like if Yugoslavia had made a hip-to-be-square car before it went away. Oh wait...
4.) It was made for twenty three years. In East Germany. It's like the Wartburg 353 and the Volkswagen Beetle were sisters. All the boys chased the curvy, older, just-wanna-have-fun Beetle, while the poor young tag-along Wartburg got stuck with the embarrassing name, the thick geek glasses, and 23 years of braces. Poor underdog. Gotta love them underdogs!
5.) The fact that the jalopnik article ([jalopnik.com]), the businessweek article, and the wikipedia page ([en.wikipedia.org]) all have the same picture of the car. It's like only one of them existed to be photographed, meaning it must be SUPER RARE!!!
So BusinessWeek, you suck for saying a rare underdog red car with an awesome engine that comes from East Germany is ugly, and then copying your picture straight from wikipedia, without checking your facts and realizing how wrong you are. I'm subscribing to you just so I can cancel my subscription!
@Plasma X: You forgot that the body was made from Duroplast ( I think... I know the Trabant P70,P50,P60 and P601 are made of it, and IFA made both cars.) It's communism's answer to fiberglass, which makes it very cool. Plus, you can take the three cylinder from a Wartburg and transplant it into a Trabant 601, which makes a hybrid called a "Traburg". Seeing as the Trabant is the epitome of cool in an automobile, that makes it's bigger cousin somewhat cool as well. #uglycars
I haven't seen anything specifically about Wartburgs having Duroplast bodies, only Trabants. They COULD be Duroplast though.
Still, another thing to add to ze list...
6.) Traburgs. A three-cylinder engine is swapped INTO a car rather than OUT OF it. Who does that!? And when does it result in such an awkward name!? #uglycars
@Plasma X: Well, when you are upgrading from a 27hp 600cc 2 cylinder, it's a bit of an improvement. (I bet the Stazi had more than one of these hybrids running around to chase down dissidents.) The odd thing is, IIRC, the Wartburg is water cooled while the Trabi was air cooled. Again, I could be wrong, but I think the Wartburg engine looks a bit like a 2 stroke SAAB engine and probably uses similar technology. I know that the Trabi uses engine technology that was native to Auto Union in the pre war period, I believe from the DKW division. (Auto Union= Audi, DKW, Horch, and I forget the fourth ring.) Sorry I can't be more specific on the Wartburg, but my knowledge is mainly of Trabants as they are one of my all time favorite cars. If I was wealthy, I would import a few so I could keep one running stock and build one hybrid using parts available on a small, US market car. Anyone for a Trabant with the AWD from a CRV, and a CRVTEC hybrid (B20 CRV engine with B series VTEC head swap) and a turbo? THere is already a kit to do it to a Mini, so I figured it would be cooler in a Trabant. After all, Trabants make everything cooler. #uglycars
@Jim-Bob: Another cool thing is that it does seem that both SAAB and Wartburg used a DKW 2 stroke design when they built their engines, so I am right about that. Another cool thing both cars have is that the transmission freewheels if you take your foot off the gas for better economy. Also, is it just me, or does the front end remind you of a Lancia Fulvia Zagato?
@Plasma X: Well, I was only looking at the fascia. They are two completely different cars in purpose, so they only share the one similarity. Plus, the Lancia has a V4 under the hood, another oddball engine configuration shared with SAAB... (SAAB replaced the DKW L3 2 stroke with Ford Taunus V4's in the 70's.)
Thanks Ben! These people are fools, although the Bricklin and the Prowler firmly belong there IMHO. But I know you had to include them just to make it a top-ten, so I shan't argue. #uglycars
I think the 240 should have been #1.
But I've been riding motorbikes for years, and Volvos are my #1 pet hate. There is nothing more brain dead than a Volvo driver. #uglycars
@Ben Wojdyla: I have known some "good" Volvo drivers. Ok, one. A race mechanic who used to work on my Lotus could also turn a wheel. ;)
I'll count you as two, as I've yet to meet a "bad" driver whose also ridden motorcycles for years. For some reason, the two seem to be mutually exclusive.
I'm pretty sure it's not an Australian thing, that Volvo drivers are considered the worst drivers. I know a lot of riders put it down to a "safety" thing. ie. I'm in a safe car, so I don't have to look where I'm going, indicate or anything else a reasonable driver does.
Volvo actually created a (very successful) advertising campaign around the bad rep their drivers had. #uglycars
@Doshu: Funny, in the US, Volvo drivers are looked upon with complete ambivalence. The 240's are generally driven by environerds, college professors and those with distinct automotive tastes. There isn't really a stereotype of bad driving associated with them, they're kind of just transparent. #uglycars
@beercheck: It's indisputable that the 240 is extremely ugly. But with things like the Aztec around, I'll acknowledge that putting it at #1 is stretching the truth a bit.
But I'm not kidding about their drivers. And there's plenty of people who agree with me. Considering, this is the internet, that's no big surprise. I did hear about a serious study (over 10 years ago) that was undertaken in Europe to try and work out why Volvo drivers were so bad. I couldn't find any references to it, so I'm writing that off as an urban myth.
However, even Volvo acknowledged how bad a rep the drivers of their vehicles had in their advertising here: [www.autoweb.com.au]
Clarkson's review of the S60 R showed him driving around with his right blinker on. No Buicks over there, so the driving-challenged end up elsewhere. #uglycars
@Ben Wojdyla: Ah, I think our environerds drove VWs (beetles and combi vans).
It's funny, but I think the reputation of Volvo drivers has slowly improved. I suspect there is a direct correlation with the increased affordability of BMWs. But apart from the bad rep of soccer moms in X5s (a very small sub-category of bad driver), I don't think there is any vehicle driver that has earned quite the rep that Volvo drivers earned. #uglycars
@alexander_the_car_salamander: Those were my first two cars -- in the late 90's and up to 2004. Now I've got an A4 and an XJR in addition to my KZ750 (which is currently a very pretty paper weight, stupid points and carbs) and my project Lincoln.
Wow, i just realized I own a grand total of 1000 HP. #uglycars
Hey, the Lagonda is flat-out cool-looking. Same with the Rambo Lambo. An acquired taste, maybe, but coolness can easily overshadow the drawn line.
How anyone can hate an El Camino, of any vintage, is a mystery and proves how little value should be ascribed to this arbitrary list by those with no taste in vehicles.
Congratulations, Business Week. You just made Alfisted's "50 Lamest Examples of Automotive Journalism". Good thing, too. Tom Strongman was getting lonely. #uglycars
Even the business community doesn't take Business Week very seriously. Executives roll over and bark when the Wall Street Journal or Fortune come calling. They barely answer the door for Business Week.
As for the list, besides the cars mentioned by Jalopnik, how can anyone really hate the styling of the Bond Bug, VW Thing, Renault Twingo, Citroen BX, Toyota Van, or the Rav4? The Chevette may be plain and dull, but it's not actively ugly. Even the lowly and awful Wartburg was quite advanced in styling for 1966 - it simply hung around for 20 years too long. The first-generation Sable was very slick and advanced in 1986. The 1996+ Taurus became over-familiar as a rental car. Is the Escalade really ugly or merely glitzy? Is the New Beetle ugly or just effete and girly? Where's the Austin Allegro, Datsun F-10, Mitsuoka Orochi, Reliant Regal, or 1980 Seville? Once again, we see the sort of clueless list generated to sell magazines and website hits. In this case, the author doesn't know the difference between a bad, inept, or uninspired car (or even a car that dares to defy the mainstream) and an ugly one.
@tonyola: I totally agree. It looks like someone just googled "ugly car", and placed the first 50 unique hits in this list.
I almost smashed my head against my monitor when I saw the Citroën BX in that list. I really don't understand how you can list a car like that, and forget about the ugly cars you mentioned or the Fiat Multipla, BMW X6, Lada 110, Daewoo Matiz,
Daihatsu Copen and Daihatsu Trevis. But maybe I'm biased as a flagrant hydropneumatic-Citroën fanboy.
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Apparently the Fiat Multipla was on the list. Whatever, it's still a random uninspired list (just look at 'who' they name as the designer of the yugo).
@tonyola: I was also pissed to see many of these cars on his list.
The 1989 Mercury Sable? Come on now, I still think that car looks good to this day, better then many cars!
I'm also pissed that he shows the 1989-1991 model, which had 4 lights in the front light bar, instead of just 2, as when it was introduced in 1985. #uglycars
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And also a Seven. #uglycars
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I think that's a challenge.
Oh Wartburg 353, how do I wuv thee, wet me count da ways...
1.) You are red. Red is the most awesome color ever. It's in sunsets, fire, fire engines, clown noses, and ketchup. It's also a popular sports car color. Shame on BusinessWeek for hating on not one, but six red cars.
2.) The engine. It's a two stroke with just seven moving parts. SEVEN. I can count that on my fingers, even after the heavy casualties Lefty took in the Battle of Cannes-Opener. I can even wiggle my fingers to signify that they are moving parts. Spirit fingers go!
3.) It was made in East Germany. I mean, the country no longer exists. People love orphaned cars, right? Except in this case, not just the company went under, it was the whole communist block. I mean it would be like if Yugoslavia had made a hip-to-be-square car before it went away. Oh wait...
4.) It was made for twenty three years. In East Germany. It's like the Wartburg 353 and the Volkswagen Beetle were sisters. All the boys chased the curvy, older, just-wanna-have-fun Beetle, while the poor young tag-along Wartburg got stuck with the embarrassing name, the thick geek glasses, and 23 years of braces. Poor underdog. Gotta love them underdogs!
5.) The fact that the jalopnik article ([jalopnik.com]), the businessweek article, and the wikipedia page ([en.wikipedia.org]) all have the same picture of the car. It's like only one of them existed to be photographed, meaning it must be SUPER RARE!!!
So BusinessWeek, you suck for saying a rare underdog red car with an awesome engine that comes from East Germany is ugly, and then copying your picture straight from wikipedia, without checking your facts and realizing how wrong you are. I'm subscribing to you just so I can cancel my subscription!
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First of all: <3
Second of all: ?
I haven't seen anything specifically about Wartburgs having Duroplast bodies, only Trabants. They COULD be Duroplast though.
Still, another thing to add to ze list...
6.) Traburgs. A three-cylinder engine is swapped INTO a car rather than OUT OF it. Who does that!? And when does it result in such an awkward name!? #uglycars
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@Jim-Bob: The resemblance... #uglycars
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@Plasma X: ...is eerie. I see what you're saying, but it's only in the front fascia.
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How can he include the Lightburn Zeta? Everyone knows the Lightburn Zeta Sports was the ugly one! #uglycars
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Now I could understand that the ordering was off. #uglycars
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But I've been riding motorbikes for years, and Volvos are my #1 pet hate. There is nothing more brain dead than a Volvo driver. #uglycars
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I'll count you as two, as I've yet to meet a "bad" driver whose also ridden motorcycles for years. For some reason, the two seem to be mutually exclusive.
I'm pretty sure it's not an Australian thing, that Volvo drivers are considered the worst drivers. I know a lot of riders put it down to a "safety" thing. ie. I'm in a safe car, so I don't have to look where I'm going, indicate or anything else a reasonable driver does.
Volvo actually created a (very successful) advertising campaign around the bad rep their drivers had. #uglycars
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But I'm not kidding about their drivers. And there's plenty of people who agree with me. Considering, this is the internet, that's no big surprise. I did hear about a serious study (over 10 years ago) that was undertaken in Europe to try and work out why Volvo drivers were so bad. I couldn't find any references to it, so I'm writing that off as an urban myth.
However, even Volvo acknowledged how bad a rep the drivers of their vehicles had in their advertising here: [www.autoweb.com.au]
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Clarkson's review of the S60 R showed him driving around with his right blinker on. No Buicks over there, so the driving-challenged end up elsewhere. #uglycars
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It's funny, but I think the reputation of Volvo drivers has slowly improved. I suspect there is a direct correlation with the increased affordability of BMWs. But apart from the bad rep of soccer moms in X5s (a very small sub-category of bad driver), I don't think there is any vehicle driver that has earned quite the rep that Volvo drivers earned. #uglycars
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Wow, i just realized I own a grand total of 1000 HP. #uglycars
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The worst:
BMW
Audi
Panel vans, contractor trucks and landscaper trucks #uglycars
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How anyone can hate an El Camino, of any vintage, is a mystery and proves how little value should be ascribed to this arbitrary list by those with no taste in vehicles.
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Proud Volvo 240 owner, and lover of half the cars on that list checking in. #uglycars
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Ripping on the DMC for, ahem, not being painted. FAIL
Saying the VW Thing needed a grille up front. FAIL
Ripping on the Avalanche and then not showing a picture of it with ghetto cladding. FAIL #uglycars
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As for the list, besides the cars mentioned by Jalopnik, how can anyone really hate the styling of the Bond Bug, VW Thing, Renault Twingo, Citroen BX, Toyota Van, or the Rav4? The Chevette may be plain and dull, but it's not actively ugly. Even the lowly and awful Wartburg was quite advanced in styling for 1966 - it simply hung around for 20 years too long. The first-generation Sable was very slick and advanced in 1986. The 1996+ Taurus became over-familiar as a rental car. Is the Escalade really ugly or merely glitzy? Is the New Beetle ugly or just effete and girly? Where's the Austin Allegro, Datsun F-10, Mitsuoka Orochi, Reliant Regal, or 1980 Seville? Once again, we see the sort of clueless list generated to sell magazines and website hits. In this case, the author doesn't know the difference between a bad, inept, or uninspired car (or even a car that dares to defy the mainstream) and an ugly one.
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"Why Nascar Drivers Would Dominate F1"
"An Outsider's View of WRC - Needs More Pickups"
"GT-R First Drive - Simple, Elegant and Beautiful"
"Porsche Panamera, the Last Word in Sedan Design" #uglycars
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@tonyola: I totally agree. It looks like someone just googled "ugly car", and placed the first 50 unique hits in this list.
I almost smashed my head against my monitor when I saw the Citroën BX in that list. I really don't understand how you can list a car like that, and forget about the ugly cars you mentioned or the Fiat Multipla, BMW X6, Lada 110, Daewoo Matiz,
Daihatsu Copen and Daihatsu Trevis. But maybe I'm biased as a flagrant hydropneumatic-Citroën fanboy.
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Apparently the Fiat Multipla was on the list. Whatever, it's still a random uninspired list (just look at 'who' they name as the designer of the yugo).
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The 1989 Mercury Sable? Come on now, I still think that car looks good to this day, better then many cars!
I'm also pissed that he shows the 1989-1991 model, which had 4 lights in the front light bar, instead of just 2, as when it was introduced in 1985. #uglycars
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