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GreenN_Gold
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
I'll grant you that this significantly changes the stated ambition and direction of Chrysler's EV program, but it reads more like a merger of the two company's EV programs, rather than the death of the Chrysler EV program.

"Lou Rhodes, who was in charge of ENVI, continues to oversee electrical vehicle development for both companies." #chryslerenvi
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brandegee
11/10/09

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Desperation can breed good ideas. This Circuit, with the exception of the decidedly old-school red Viper taillights, is the best looking Dodge I've seen in a long time. #chryslerenvi
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günter macbeetle, codename: chrystlubitshi
11/10/09

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you've got to be kidding me, wes... first i lose all that money on my pre-ordered tesla... and now on this too?? i guess it's time to move the money tree to a larger pot... see if it'll grow a bit bigger.. #chryslerenvi
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YankBoffin
11/10/09

In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
Someone elses chassis + someone elses powertrain + Chrysler badges = How the hell would this have been profitable? There was no innovation here. It was cobbled together with existing technology that anyone could put together (and Tesla did it already). At the time it came out I was thinking it must be something to impress Congress to get the bail-out money. Now, I'm positive. #chryslerenvi
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zacarious
11/10/09

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Company is a joke - may I make an analogy.

Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.

This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
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Rabbi Dave
11/10/09

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Well remember Chrysler had/has no car that gets better than 30 mpg highway, so with Fiat's new engines here in 2 years it should help fleet mileage as much as a low volume battery electric. There will still be a hybrid Ram 1500 next year though. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

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That's too bad because I really thought that the Jeep EV was a great idea that might actually have a market. #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
11/10/09

@weatherman: I really hope you are kidding.... #chryslerenvi
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BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom
11/10/09

@makopolo: Why? Lots of torque in a very quiet package? Sounds pretty good to me. #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

@BaconSandwich: exactly. For some reason some folks seem to have this idea that Jeeps are all about trashing the environment and crushing bunnies underfoot. But the outdoorsy people (the ones who actually camp, hike, fish and hunt) are actually the ones who care more about the quiet enjoyment of the environment than the ones who just want to look like they offroad. Jeep could do a lot to prevent an image failure like Hummer had by embracing (or returning to) the outdoorsman market. And if they can do it with a high-torque electric that would actually be more capable offroad, all the better.
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danio3834
11/10/09

@weatherman: Right, but while you're doing all that in your electric Jeep, where do you plug it in? A cactus? #chryslerenvi
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makopolo
11/10/09

@weatherman: sounds great, but where do I charge it when I go on that 400 mile trip to the wilderness? #chryslerenvi
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weatherman
11/10/09

@danio3834 & makopolo: if you'd read about the program, you'd know that the Jeep was a gas/electric hyrbid with a (supposed) range of 400 miles on an 8 gallon tank, which is enough to travel the entire length of the Sierra Nevada range.
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zeet
11/10/09

@weatherman: .. and if that still isn't enough, would it really be a Jeep without a Jerry can strapped to the back? #chryslerenvi
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Goes Like Stink
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
By Slightly suspicious you mean every previous article about this car contained the phrase "Vapor Ware"
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Sloop_John_B
07/22/09

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You know, I'll say it. I like it. If this is a glimpse into the future of electric cars, then i can buy into it. Realiability, price and range need improvements, but that's a good looking car. Because it's underpinnings are Lotus, you know it will handle as well. Tesla has been a miserable failure in the selling cars department, but I think they broke the ice properly.
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brickyard
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
For those of your who really hate electric cars hope that Chrysler actually makes it into production with one. If anyone can make something not work, it's Chrysler.
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
When did C&D become a credible source again for Jalopnik?
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Turboner
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
I remember the good old days, when automakers could put different grilles on different cars. Why does every thing have to have a crosshair or a fishmouth?
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pejer
07/22/09

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Shadowguitar
07/22/09

@pejer: Is there something I'm missing here? That just looks like gibberish to me...
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SpudMills
07/22/09

@Shadowguitar: It's a fish. View it with a monospaced font, as you would do with any other ASCII art.
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that ain't the way to have fun, son
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
What's that I smell?

Oh, yeah, the two thousand-teens K-car.

How long before there is an imposter called Imperial on this chassis, which is also shared by a minivan?

(please, do not let his happen, again...once was traumatic enough, and made me actually want one of the last, square-trunk, Imperials)

AAAACCCCCKKKKK!!!!! I can't unsee it!

The mind's eye can be a cruel beast.
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YankBoffin
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
See, mister government man? We's all about the future 'n' shit! Jus' look at this E-lec-tric car we built and are "definitely" planning on producin'! Totally legit! Can we have some more gov't green, now?
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ThreeLitre
07/22/09

In reply to Dodge Circuit EV Not Yet Dead?
Can I please have an electric car made by a company that just went bankrupt and was then thusly bought by an Italian car maker whose name is affectionately thought to stand for "fix it again, Tony,", and who was completely incapable of making the chassis themselves and so they got one from a third company?

Oh, and can I please have it in bright orange?

I Can?! Wonders will never cease!
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FormerlyPreferredCustomer
07/22/09

@ThreeLitre: As flaky as all that is, I'd still feel better about buying a Circuit than a Tesla.
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ThreeLitre
07/22/09

@FormerlyPreferredCustomer: Oh God trying to decide between the two is giving me flashbacks to early November 2004 and trying to choose between W. and Kerry. I thought that was the ultimate decision between the lesser of two evils but somehow we've found the 10th circle of Hell: A battery powered shriek fest colored in bright orange and ego.
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