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    Image of Hybridthry84 Hybridthry84
    11/22/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    This seems like it is going to be a great engine. Honda's 2.2 from the S2000 might make more power but it doesn't have as much torque, it requires premium fuel, and you have to keep it in the upper revs for it to make that power. Honda's own 2.4 liter four from the Accord is a much more comparable engine. It has 190 hp at 7000 rpm and 162 lb-ft at 4400 rpm. While the hp are fairly close, the Theta has considerably more torque and it makes all of its hp and torque at a lower rpm. I think this will be a very popular engine for Hyundai and one they will want to work on getting into more of their vehicles.
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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/21/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    Just slap a turbo on it, already. With erect injection, the sky isn't even the limit.
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    Image of alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons
    11/20/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    So many naysayers. I think this is a bitch'n engine. Especially if they keep the transparent valve cover and glowing headers.
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    Image of BigHarv BigHarv
    11/21/09

    @alowishus wants to run a Saab Sonett III at LeMons: I'm with you, this think sounds like a hell of an engine. What a nice base option mill-and it'll make those little Forte coupes a lot of fun for next to nothing too.
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    11/20/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    Wow, so they're just now accomplishing what Honda did with the 2.2L, port-injected H22 almost 15 years ago. Meh.
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    Edited by If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face at 11/20/09 9:15 PM If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was starred If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face was unstarred
    Image of IH_kumicho IH_kumicho
    11/20/09

    @If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face:

    Huh. I must have missed how the H22 put out 186 ft/lbs of torque at 4250rpm....
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/20/09

    @IH_kumicho: Oh believe me, I'm quite familiar with the complete lack of low-end torque in Honda fours. In fact, it's one of the many reasons I never want to drive a Civic again.

    Nevertheless, it's hard for me to feign excitement about a 200 horse anything, let alone a four-banger Hyundai.
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    Image of bripab007 bripab007
    11/20/09

    @If FromaBuick6: So you're saying that peak horsepower figure of 200 is the only thing that matters in an engine? This engine will make more torque than the H22 could ever dream of, all while getting better fuel economy.
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    Image of RentalCarGuy RentalCarGuy
    11/20/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    There's as much pornworthy about a naturally aspirated 2-liter-range four-banger as there's about brown paper bags: Sure you can do kinky things with them (although I know of none), but in general they're just plain boring.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/20/09

    @RentalCarGuy: Oh I don't know, there are a lot of Honda, Nissan and Toyota guys who'll happily disagree with you.
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    In reply to Hyundai's Theta II 2.4-liter Direct-Injection Four-Cylinder: First Look
    Why is it so damn impossible to find a complete set of technical stats on Hyundai engines? I can't find the complete stats for the Tau, Theta, Theta II, or Lambda engines.

    All I really want to know, for the sake of comparison to other engines, is the displacement, output, weight, fuel economy, and physical dimensions.
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    Image of Bertone77 Bertone77
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

    [hyundaiengine.com]
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    Image of pauljones pauljones
    11/20/09

    @Bertone77: Thank you sir.

    Now I just need to find out how much they weigh.
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    Image of molson3530 molson3530
    11/20/09

    @pauljones: Click on the engine model you are interested in on the left column. It will take you to a more detailed page that includes dry weight and much more.
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    pauljones promoted this comment Edited by molson3530 at 11/20/09 11:01 PM molson3530 was starred molson3530 was unstarred
    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/09

    In reply to Ten Crazy Engines You Can't Buy Today
    Jalopnik fan-site? Hahaha Ray, you smartass. :P But thanks for the link-love.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/20/09

    @Deartháir II: I fear for your star.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/20/09

    @Deartháir II: I WAS going to say fan-BOY site, because I'm not sure how any of y'all have already made it to bar mitzvah age in maturity. ;-)
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    11/20/09

    @Ray Wert: WE haven't matured yet. Watch out, that Roy Wort will jerk your star for lurking on Hooniverse.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/09

    @Ray Wert: ::holds up fwee fingers:: I'm THIS many olds!
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    11/20/09

    @JeepyJayhawk: Be nice now; notice who was the first commenter on the Hoonie article? Who's a fan of whom? ;)
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/20/09

    @Tanshanomi: Speaking of stars. You're way overdue.
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    11/20/09

    @Deartháir II: I was trying to be nice and friendly like. I only kid friends.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    11/20/09

    @JeepyJayhawk: Just checking. Hoonie and Jalopnik are doing well at playing nice together. Well, except for Ray and his spitballs, but he'll get detention for that whenever the teacher notices. ;)
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/20/09

    @beercheck: I'm being really, really nice to Ray nowadays.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/20/09

    @Tanshanomi: Don't worry about being nice to me. Be nice to Jalopnik. That's all I care about when it comes to commenter stars.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/20/09

    @Ray Wert: Tanshanomi's significantly more deserving than I am.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/20/09

    @Ray Wert: But Ray, I love Jalopnik! If I didn't, why would I read it every day? I always try to add a few really worthwhile comments, often with photos, and always with highly effective use of italics.

    Okay, so I posted one questionable comment out of 2,795 (I just checked) — which I have apologized for — how much nicer can I try to be to Jalopnik?
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    Ray Wert promoted this comment Edited by Tanshanomi at 11/20/09 6:07 PM Tanshanomi was starred Tanshanomi was unstarred
    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    11/20/09

    @Tanshanomi: OK, you can have your star back. Now go play nice with the other kids.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/20/09

    @Ray Wert: I've learned my lesson, Dad, I promise.
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    11/22/09

    @Deartháir II: I was going to say something typical of me, but I'm just happy everyone is playing nice. Now off to watch TopGear.
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    Image of Leeeeena the Jalopchick Leeeeena the Jalopchick
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Sam, I haven't been on Jalopnik much lately and sort of missed your joining of the crew. However, this post makes me certain sure I'm going to enjoy you quite a lot. Have a belated welcome aboard!
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    Image of LuciferV8 LuciferV8
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    I'm crying tears of joy.
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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Enjoyed the post, but I think I was expecting a different definition of "crazy." I think I was expecting the 5 quirkiest (primarily from an engineering standpoint) engines you can buy today. Any chance that's forthcoming?

    Also, these are 5 engines who can buy? As I recall, the crazy V-8 they've crammed into the Atom (if you're refering to the one I think you're refering to), the engine alone costs more than the new car I bought over the summer.
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    Image of Sam Smith Sam Smith
    11/19/09

    @area_educator: Quirky may in fact be on its way. Stay tuned.

    (And when I said "you," I meant "anyone with money." Me, I've never bought anything that cost more than $15,000, so I'm automatically out.)
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    Image of area_educator area_educator
    11/19/09

    @Sam Smith: No worries-- I still enjoyed the post.

    I also imagine that quirky will lead to more pedestrian price ranges, too
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Excuse me but the Ariel Atom is a chassis. Lady Gaga notwithstanding, crazy doesn't stick by association.

    Mazda Renesis.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Great post, great picture.
    "Cougars chasing gazelles? Doesn't he know cougars are in the New World and --"
    "Forget it. He's on a roll."
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    Image of Sam Smith Sam Smith
    11/19/09

    @Novaload: Ha! Clever. And because I ain't cool enough to Bluto the internet, I changed it. :)
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    Image of Franzouse Franzouse
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Yeah but the reference to the Ariel Atom is a little unfortunate, barely two days after French actor Jocelyn Quivrin went James Dean in his...
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    Image of dohcspit dohcspit
    11/19/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today

    Wernher is not impressed
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    Novaload promoted this comment Edited by dohcspit at 11/19/09 1:10 AM dohcspit was starred dohcspit was unstarred
    Image of brandegee brandegee
    11/19/09

    @dohcspit: Thanks. I needed a hearty blast of Saturn V in my day.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11/18/09

    In reply to The Five Craziest Engines You Can Buy Today
    Dear Sam... Glenn Danzig is neither a German artist, nor is he even of German descent at all all. He is, in fact, an American of Italian descent. "Danzig" is a stage name.

    If you're were looking for a good German headbanging RAWK reference for your Mercedes engineers in Pic #2 to possibly be inspired to greatness by, I would suggest - among other possibilities, of course - the following:
    1.) Ulrich Roth... onetime Scorpions Guitarist, who is amongst the most elite on the planet in terms of his technical ability; and as such, can be used to draw perfect comparisons to the best of the best in the engineering & design realms that Mercedes teams regularly achieve, and also constantly aspire to.
    2.) Accept... German Heavy Metal band - Lead singer is named Udo Dirkschneider, and you can't get more Teutonic-sounding than that. Plus, they kick ass, as does the engine you cite.
    3.) Mekong Delta... nope it doesn't sound German at all, but they're about as German as you can get, being from Berlin, and being formed before the wall fell in said city. Legacy German metal band, as might be appropriate to be cited in conjunction with the legacy of Mercedes engineering.

    Personally, I would go with a blend of Roth & Accept... incredible technical ability, blended with pure headbanging, driving force.... pretty much perfectly describes your particular Mercedes engine pick, dunnit?
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    Edited by HoonThatFerrari at 11/18/09 10:59 PM HoonThatFerrari was starred HoonThatFerrari was unstarred
    Image of voodoojoo voodoojoo
    11/19/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: As long as you end up screaming "Fast as a Shark" all is well.
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    Image of Sam Smith Sam Smith
    11/19/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: Thanks for the tip, but I meant the Danzig reference to be more of an American one than a German one. (To be honest, didn't even think about the name connection.)

    That said, I'm-a remember the name of Udo Dirkschneider until the day I die. You are a glorious, glorious man. Thank you.
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    11/19/09

    @HoonThatFerrari: A fine list, and a +2 for skipping past Kreator and Destruction to use Mekong Delta as your example of Teutonic speed metal. Clearly, you're a power chord conniosseur.
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    Image of HoonThatFerrari HoonThatFerrari
    11/19/09

    @scroggzilla raids again: Actually, I'm more of a Prog-Rock kinda guy, but I can also appreciate a well-executed power chord, yes.
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