just so you know, if you clear the crap out of the hatch and fold the rear seats forward a bit, a keg, tap and appropriate amount of ice fit back there.
at least they did in my dad's 70 600 Z coupe. #honda600
Jeff appears to be leading the life I would very much like to lead. However, in my version, there's a Fintail Mercedes Benz sedan with an M-100 engine under the hood....and I'm somehow taller. #fordcortina
Guys... This is EXACTLY in the spirit of LeMons! they're not racing a pure cheatanium E30 or an Unobtainium Rx7, They found a tiny japanese shitbox, and are doing their damnedest to make it work in the most ridiculous way possible. Having the nice facilities is sort of a smear against most of us lemons racers, but all except the gearbox could be done in just about any garage with basic fab tools and a LOT of man hours. Hell, if they didn't have the machine shop they could have mounted the engine another way to make it work still... #honda600
Very cool, but it once again reaffirms how proud I am of my team for its top 10 finish at Buttonwillow considering our car was built in the garage mostly with hand tools.
I'd kill to have the engineering and equipment available to this team. While their car meets the rules of the series, I'm not sure it meets the spirit. #honda600
@LTDScott: Your team is approximately 400 times more likely to take the overall win at LeMons than is this bunch. They wanted to use their skills to build something really ridiculous, which I think is firmly in keeping with the spirit of LeMons. #honda600
@Murilee Martin: I understand that labor is free, but making their own gear box? I think the finished product won't be all that much "crap can" which is what the series is about.
I also complained about the Metro-Gnome considering it had been advertised for sale on Jalopnik previously for over $2K, and that fell on deaf ears due to the cool factor of the car too. Then they went and won the race!
But I don't want to come off as a bitter whiner. I'll eat my hat if we ever win, so I'm not all that concerned about the competition as long as I have fun :) #honda600
Damn, I'm beginning to wish I'd bought that Fiat 600 I found a couple of months ago. But then I have about 1/1000th the talent these guys have so I'd probably still be staring at a pile full of parts. #honda600
@87CapriceEstate: In California, vehicles built in 1975 or before are exempt from emissions testing.
With a post-'75 car, you can drop a newer engine into the car and get a Bureau Of Automotive Repair referee to certify it. At that point, the car will be tested to meet the emissions standards of the year of engine manufacture. #fordcortina
The chassis jig alone is indicative of a high-end shop, and check out the drilled-out gussets on the cage-if these guys don't make the deadline, it'll be because they're too professional.
I've gotta laugh thinking about sitting next to that screaming V-Twin-but the weight distribution should be phenomenal. #honda600
I didn't see a toilet plunger being pressed into service to perform a critical fluid sealing function. So it's not quite the peak of awesome I'd thought. Keep at it boys, you're getting there! #honda600
I actually like this idea better than the Metro Gnome, for two reasons.
1. It's 100% the same manufacturer. Had the Metro been equipped with a Suzuki two-wheeler powerplant, I'd still have to vote Honda because...
2. The V65 was an AWESOME freakin' ride. My first 'real' motorcycle was an '83 V45 Sabre, and that machine, even though only a 749cc machine, was borderline terrifying.
The slightly-tweaked frame didn't help matters, but hey, you adjust how left-hand curves are taken.
A then good-friend of mine rode my 45 and decided he needed a 65.
Oh.
My.
Fuckin'.
Gawd.
The 45 and 65 were not only quite high-tech for the early-80's, but they both had very complimentary torque/HP curves. No need to rev to 4K RPM to get away from a stop sign. Slowly let the clutch out, and you're putting along.
Also had one of the best commercials of the day. #honda600
@send lawyers, guns, and money: I think the Metro Gnome Mark II is going to be even more ridiculous than this car, due to full IRS and chain drive. #honda600
@send lawyers, guns, and money: Agree with the "awesome ride" comment. My first "real" bike was an '86 V65 Magna. (I had three V65 scoots way back when - 2 Magnas and a Sabre) The Magnas were wheelie machines if you were too agressive with the throttle. #honda600
Heart-clicky for not killing yourself on several machines which outright beg for humans to say,
"Hey, watch this!"
I'm very anti-beer and two wheels, otherwise it'd be, "hold my beer". Love 'em both, but together, um...never, ever a good idea.
I sold the V45 for a Transalp, then added an ST1100 for the long trips.
However, that V-motor always had appeal.
The V45 was the first, and only, motorsickle on which I had an unintentional wheelie. I'll never forget immediately looking at sky while foot-fumbling the rear brake.
I think that was also the machine which was just powerful enough to elevate the front tire maybe ¾" off the ground under full clutch engagement acceleration from near-stopped. You got a "head wiggle" when the tire re-contacted the pavement after 'bout ½ second. #honda600
This gets the official Evil Genius seal of approval.. I've been thinking of putting an S2000 motor in my Big
Healey.... I've now been nudged further down that path
You do know that the Maserati motor is wider than the Nash? I guess we'd have to lengthen the Nash and mount the engine behind the front axle. I haven't seen the Nash in person yet, bought it sight unseen, will pick it up tomorrow and send pics. Then we can discuss jalopnik approved motor/trans swaps..... #fordcortina
@Murilee Martin: One of the guys at a local Weber carburetor supplier has a Metropolitan whose B-series motor has been swapped for a later 5-main-bearing unit out of an MGB. It's got an aluminum crossflow head and, of course, twin DCOEs. He gets something like 140 horses at the wheels.
Evil Genius, I still vote for the quad-cam Maserati motor in the Metro. Or the Healey. Or pretty much anything. #fordcortina
That was my old RX7, glad to see it go to a good use. It may not have been smart however, to sell it to them, as we are racing against them. We'll just have to up our game in the V8olvo and the 'Members Only' 928 #honda600
I saw a very late model one, yesterday, and though to myself, "self, that car is still damned good looking, and if you won the lottery, you could pretend you could afford to own an S4." #honda600
Cool? Yes. I think it's the coolest little beast ever.
In the spirit of Lemons? Sure, in the same way that NASCAR still races "Stock" cars.
Charter creep is a bitch.
Enjoy your cheap crapcan racing while you still can... before you know it these races will be dominated by $100,000 professionally fabbed race cars built inside "$500" skins.
@KillerBRacer:
As long as they're okay with Jay Lamm claiming the car for $500 it should kinda-sorta keep things in check.
Of course, that might be a more effective threat if it'd ever actually happened... #honda600
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at least they did in my dad's 70 600 Z coupe. #honda600
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I'd kill to have the engineering and equipment available to this team. While their car meets the rules of the series, I'm not sure it meets the spirit. #honda600
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I also complained about the Metro-Gnome considering it had been advertised for sale on Jalopnik previously for over $2K, and that fell on deaf ears due to the cool factor of the car too. Then they went and won the race!
But I don't want to come off as a bitter whiner. I'll eat my hat if we ever win, so I'm not all that concerned about the competition as long as I have fun :) #honda600
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With a post-'75 car, you can drop a newer engine into the car and get a Bureau Of Automotive Repair referee to certify it. At that point, the car will be tested to meet the emissions standards of the year of engine manufacture. #fordcortina
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I've gotta laugh thinking about sitting next to that screaming V-Twin-but the weight distribution should be phenomenal. #honda600
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1. It's 100% the same manufacturer. Had the Metro been equipped with a Suzuki two-wheeler powerplant, I'd still have to vote Honda because...
2. The V65 was an AWESOME freakin' ride. My first 'real' motorcycle was an '83 V45 Sabre, and that machine, even though only a 749cc machine, was borderline terrifying.
The slightly-tweaked frame didn't help matters, but hey, you adjust how left-hand curves are taken.
A then good-friend of mine rode my 45 and decided he needed a 65.
Oh.
My.
Fuckin'.
Gawd.
The 45 and 65 were not only quite high-tech for the early-80's, but they both had very complimentary torque/HP curves. No need to rev to 4K RPM to get away from a stop sign. Slowly let the clutch out, and you're putting along.
Also had one of the best commercials of the day. #honda600
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Whoa...
While I really wish they could incorporate the bulletproof-ness of a shaft drive, I'm all for creativity. #honda600
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11/01/09
Heart-clicky for not killing yourself on several machines which outright beg for humans to say,
"Hey, watch this!"
I'm very anti-beer and two wheels, otherwise it'd be, "hold my beer". Love 'em both, but together, um...never, ever a good idea.
I sold the V45 for a Transalp, then added an ST1100 for the long trips.
However, that V-motor always had appeal.
The V45 was the first, and only, motorsickle on which I had an unintentional wheelie. I'll never forget immediately looking at sky while foot-fumbling the rear brake.
I think that was also the machine which was just powerful enough to elevate the front tire maybe ¾" off the ground under full clutch engagement acceleration from near-stopped. You got a "head wiggle" when the tire re-contacted the pavement after 'bout ½ second. #honda600
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Healey.... I've now been nudged further down that path
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You do know that the Maserati motor is wider than the Nash? I guess we'd have to lengthen the Nash and mount the engine behind the front axle. I haven't seen the Nash in person yet, bought it sight unseen, will pick it up tomorrow and send pics. Then we can discuss jalopnik approved motor/trans swaps..... #fordcortina
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Evil Genius, I still vote for the quad-cam Maserati motor in the Metro. Or the Healey. Or pretty much anything. #fordcortina
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Wait. You're entering a 928?
Brave, ye be.
I saw a very late model one, yesterday, and though to myself, "self, that car is still damned good looking, and if you won the lottery, you could pretend you could afford to own an S4." #honda600
11/01/09
In the spirit of Lemons? Sure, in the same way that NASCAR still races "Stock" cars.
Charter creep is a bitch.
Enjoy your cheap crapcan racing while you still can... before you know it these races will be dominated by $100,000 professionally fabbed race cars built inside "$500" skins.
Oh wait... #honda600
11/01/09
Actually, you're going to love it. #honda600
11/01/09
As long as they're okay with Jay Lamm claiming the car for $500 it should kinda-sorta keep things in check.
Of course, that might be a more effective threat if it'd ever actually happened... #honda600
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However, Thunderhill is nearby and Jay is bringing the car trailer... #honda600
11/01/09
Car pr0n at it's finest. DO WANT!!! #honda600