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    Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama

    REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/19/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    I watched The Original Series rerun just couple of minutes ago. The one with original Pike-in-wheelchair one. I really hate the new one.
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    05/19/09

    @Pessimipposaurus: You must be the only one. You're the only one I've heard of who didn't like it, and that's die-hard fans and newcomers alike. Roger Ebert doesn't count 'cause he's a blowhard.


    That said, "The Menagerie" is friggin' classic. I need to find my old episodes right the hell now.

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/19/09

    @A stʁolling playeʁ: Well. I don't really hate the movie, but I really hate what happens in it.
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    Image of Triborough Triborough
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    Anyone would agree to anything when a bunch of Chicago mobsters turns up and threatens you, especially if they are the ones running the government.
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    05/19/09

    @Triborough: So I'm not the only one that's noticed Obama's Chicago mob tactics lately.
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    Image of bdon bdon
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    how 'bout target real engineering. this transverse fwd supercharged is the biggest hoax since the egr valve. I've got an eco boost I'd like to demand....and make it carb standards undoubtable, so the technological micron homosexuals can stop throwing repulsive opera marketing at us without any sex of normalcy: called a man and woman, not hermaphrodite. Else I whip out my techno hammer ...
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/18/09

    @bdon: ESL?
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    05/19/09

    @bdon: Sorry, but I have no idea what you're on about.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    05/19/09

    @bdon: That was awesome.

    If you need any help transferring your fortune out of your homeland, just let me know what I can do.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    Good to see the NAMBLA meme is alive and well after its hiatus of late. Thanks, Ray.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    05/18/09

    @smalleyxb122: Now hold on there, sport. I'm the one who's quietly been trying to revive it.

    [jalopnik.com]


    [jalopnik.com]

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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    05/19/09

    @Tomsk Яespects the BuЯbeЯЯy BanhammeЯ: Now that you've made it public, it's never going to happen.
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    Image of .357 .357
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    What does the North American Man/Boy Love Association have to do with automakers?
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    05/18/09

    @CoЯiolis Eff Smites You With The PoweЯ of BuЯbeЯЯy: Man, I watch way too much South Park.
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    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    NAMBLA? Is that what I think it is?


    Man, I'm as sleezy as the next guy, but I prefer to keep my mind in the heterosexual, legal side of the gutter.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    05/18/09

    @FromaBuick6: I don't think there's an illegal part of the gutter. I think it's in an entirely different neighborhood.


    In Florida.

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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    05/19/09

    @FromaBuick6:


    I hate to start my morning with an indepth discussion about HOW FUCKED UP EMISSIONS ARE.. that Cali has the tightest emissions, and cars are going up to 42mpg from 27 or so while trucks rise from about 25 to about 27.


    What is the point of raising cars into the 40s, when TRUCKS.. ESPECIALLY TRUCKS.. most of the US drives a truck.. HELLO LIGHT TRUCKS! (And why light trucks are catagorized as being under 6000 I will never know, including Tahoe, Silverdo and H2.) Why are they only rising 2%, while cars who usually get the decent miliage are going into the 40s. Id loooove to find out how this was put together.


    Seems we are just propogating another lie..

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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    05/19/09

    @Accordius killedius Malibius.: Oh, and don't forget about all those crossover pieces of shit that are also classified as light trucks. Are we going to continue to allow automakers to cheat like this?
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    05/19/09

    @HurtsSoGood: uh, it's not cheating if the regulating body is the one who classifies them as such.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    Bah.


    But thanks for bringing back my favorite Jalopnik meme.

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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    The Chinese People's Consortium of Autocar Manufacturers and Intellectual Property Thieves (CHIPECONOFAMIPROT), a trade organization of 456,0012 Chinese automakers, countered with a statement that they would continue an agressive push towards a 100% coal-powered automotive fleet in the People's Republic by the 2038 Shanghai Olympics, which will also feature a women's gymnastic team consisting entirely of premature infants.
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    Image of mikedrawcar mikedrawcar
    05/19/09

    @Town of the Big House DLJ: COTD.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    05/18/09

    In reply to Ebony And Ivory: Automakers Support Obama
    Well, if nothing else, the gubment is doing its best to not add bodies to the unemployment roles by keeping the EPA busy.


    /sarcasm

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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    05/18/09

    @I wish for a D/FW LeMons: Yeah, god forbid any government employee have to take a 3% pay cut, never mind get a pink slip like us peons.


    Anyone got a kitten I can punch?

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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    05/18/09

    @Tomsk Яespects the BuЯbeЯЯy BanhammeЯ: While most government jobs have better recession security than in the private sector, that's not always the case. The state of California, for instance, is in the middle of thousands of layoffs. The post office is also cutting routes. Plus, don't forget that most government workers earn lower salaries in return for job security.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    So, Murilee, is it time for an exodus? Or is Alameda considered its own state by now?
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    Image of DvBoard DvBoard
    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    Automakers should just collectively say "Fuck You" to those states and only sell cars in other states. It's the people's own issue if they can't get the car they want because their government is retarded.


    Maybe they will finally realize that you can't mandate things that cost big money, or may damn well be IMPOSSIBLE, without picking up the costs...

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    Image of tgpt tgpt
    01/26/09

    @DvBoard: according to some random internet article, the states that adopt CA emissions account for 26% of the US car market.


    I'm sure the automakers will jump at the opportunity to give up an additional 26% of their sales.

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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    01/26/09

    @tgpt: There are more than 5.2 million automobiles registered in Los Angeles County. Only seven states have more registered cars than does Los Angeles County: California (14.6 - not including L.A. County), Florida (8.9), Texas (7.7), New York (7.6), Ohio (6.7), Illinois (6.4), and Pennsylvania (6.2).
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    State rights, FTW! I despise CARB, but the fed shouldn't be able to outlaw laws that meet (exceed) their own (stated minimum) criteria.


    As for the manufacturers, make the cars you want to build, and only sell them in the states that they are legal, and the California voters will eventually vote down stricter regulations, if they want the cars that don't meet the guidelines that CARB sets forth.


    I don't live in CA, so I don't care. Yet. But, Michigan won't likely be the second or third state on the bandwagon.


    No matter what, I'll just buy and drive cars that are grandfathered into lower regulations.

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    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    Just another reason to buy only cars built before (or maybe after?) the Malaise Era. 'Cuz another one is a-comin'.
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    01/26/09

    @discontinuuity: Yeah, but the technology is better than it was in the days of polyester leisure suits. Honda will just throw the problem at its engineers like it usually does. The other automakers should do the same.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    01/26/09

    @HurtsSoGood: But unlike Malaise Era I, where only certain engine and trans combos were banned from being sold in Cali, I think we're going to see entire model lines (read: SUVs) banned.


    Hmmm...I wonder how the self-styled tree-huggers who wanted this to go through will greet the news that their taxpayer-funded Tahoe and Highlander leases will now have to go toward Cobalts and Yarises. Or when campaign contributions from groups like car dealers and people who actually need big vehicles for their businesses (remember those?) or their large families dry up.


    Maybe then our so-called leaders will realize that outside the dreamworld they call home, every action - regardless of how good its intentions are - has consequences.

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    Image of TurboBrick [LIGIER] TurboBrick [LIGIER]
    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    This is just going to turn the clock back to circa 1980 when there were 49-state cars and California cars. Too bad for the people and auto dealers in CA, because three things will happen;


    a) Cars like Accord V6 or Charger V8 will have a hefty surcharge added to their prices - people will seek a way to get cars from AZ.

    b) Base models tuned to score as high as possible on the EPA tests, i.e. VW entry level will be 1.6L motors. Overall vehicle prices rise to offset the cost of certify yet another powertrain package.

    c) All cars will have an extra $500 slapped to their prices for the "CARB approved" stickers.


    I'd rather see gas tax increases than this, because this will not give any incentives for better mileage in any way, just punishes the consumers and manufacturers.

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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    01/26/09

    @TurboBrick: I'd like to see you try buying a new car in Arizona and registering it in California. Sacramento might be dysfunctional as all Hell, but I bet they see people like you coming a mile away.
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    Image of TampaRon TampaRon
    01/26/09

    In reply to REPORT: Obama To Allow California To Set Auto Emissions Standards
    Its amusing how conservative repubs yammer on about "states rights" when it comes to certain topics that they support but balk at states rights when they want to do something like (God forbid) give us clean air to breath.
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    01/26/09

    @TampaRon: THIS
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