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    MINI E: First Drive

    All-Electric MINI E Hits LA Auto Show Floor With "Hottest. Deputy Mayor. Ever."

    MINI E Electric Mini Re-Revealed, Now With Technical Images
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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    240VAC at 50A is what my Carrier central air/furnace combo unit runs on. Not hard to find in residential housing in the U.S. Most kitchens and laundry room are wired thusly in the event of electric ovens/ranges and clothes dryers.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    See what happens when you don't have Interns? You get stuck driving these things. Get more Interns, then you'll be okay.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    12/12/08

    @Deartháir and his eight little drained beers: Ha! No kidding. Anyone in NYC want to be my intern? We pay horribly!
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    Image of Shadowlayer Shadowlayer
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Why didn't BMW use a Clubman instead?
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Yeah...but what if they don't get the bailout?


    Oh wait, nevermind.

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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Make mine a turbodiesel electric with plug-in mode. Oh, and fit it to a 1961 Lincoln Continental convertible. KTHXBY!
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    Image of petersterncan petersterncan
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Can it be charged with a regular 120V plug?
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    12/12/08

    @petersterncan: The gas cap cover says so. "110-240V, 50A"


    I'd guess it'll draw more current or take longer to charge if you're running 110.

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    Image of wheels OF satan! wheels OF satan!
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    "that'll run 240 watts at 50 amps, which means you can charge the car fully in two to three hours. "


    you mean 240 VOLTS


    240V 50A is a standard electric dryer plug

    so if you have one of those in the garage, you are good to go

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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    12/12/08

    @wheels OF satan!: It's Volts=watts x amps isn't it?
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    The electric drive train for the Mini E is made by AC propulsion: [www.acpropulsion.com]

    I've spent most of a day driving this car: [www.acpropulsion.com]

    It's a Scion Xb (first gen) converted with the same drive train as the Mini E. However, the Xb retains its back seat and trunk. I've driven it on the highway with three adults and one dog on board and had no problem keeping up with traffic (I was even able to verify AC propulsion's claim of a 95MPH top speed). I got used to the regenerative braking in about 3 stops. The car I drove was the first prototype that had 30K miles on as an EV and the brake pads were still new...


    Last time I spoke with AC Propulsion they told me that they had to delay production of Eboxes due to "another order": I guess that was the Mini E.

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    Image of Bumblebee Bumblebee
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    See that "149" on the faux fender vent? Tell me each one of these is not individually numbered. How much more pretentious can you get?
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Hey, wait, Wert has a girlfriend?


    Must have met here over on Jezebel.**


    **Hey, wait, that's both sexist and insulting. My humble apologies to Herr Wert's Ego as well as women everywhere.

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    12/12/08

    @Schm, lord of Torques!: here=her
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    12/12/08

    @Schm, lord of Torques!: He met her at his high school reunion ;-)
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    12/12/08

    @dwegmull: Perhaps Ray drove an 'lectric Mini? He was hoping to score some Hippie-chicks that the old Jeep won't connect with.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/13/08

    @dwegmull: Well, now we know one car he didn't drive to the reunion...
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    Image of neredowell neredowell
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Can I just get the stickers and put it on a regular Mini?
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    Image of layabout layabout
    12/12/08

    @neredowell: No doubt someone will.
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    Image of Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. . Schm, enjoying his first desert winter. .
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    OYE!!


    Wert gonna rock town to down E 'lectric avenue. .

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    Image of layabout layabout
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Fine for the trendy types that like to tell the world how they're saving it,until prices become realistic it still makes more sense to buy a normal Cooper & run it with the money saved. Mini Cooper D wins for a combination of performance & economy that's affordable to more people.
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    Image of Bumblebee Bumblebee
    12/12/08

    @layabout met the real Santa: What a wouldn't give for a Cooper D.
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    Image of Bumblebee Bumblebee
    12/12/08

    @Bumblebee: "What I wouldn't give," dammit. And never mind, I just checked the price of diesel.
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    Image of dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity dwegmull comments for the purpose of obscurity
    12/12/08

    @layabout met the real Santa: If only the D was available in the US of A...
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    Image of layabout layabout
    12/12/08

    @Bumblebee:

    @dwegmull: Surely BMW/Mini will sell it in America in the not too distant future,they'd be crazy not to.
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    Image of Fred Cox Fred Cox
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Interesting that they didn't go with the Prius style "B" lever that does regenerative braking by hand. Either there's a patent at work, or BMW found it too complex.


    After driving this, did it feel weird when your other car didn't slow down as much when you let off the gas?

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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    12/12/08

    @Fred Cox: The "B" on the Prius selector isn't for regenerative braking, it's for forced engine braking, down hills and the like. The Prius starts regenerative braking as soon as you let off the gas and keeps doing it unless you brake very, very hard, lose traction, or get below 7 mph.
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    Image of Ray Wert Ray Wert
    12/12/08

    @Fred Cox: The other car today was a Lotus Exige S 240. It felt totally weird for SO many reasons.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/13/08

    @Ray Wert: Do tell!
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/12/08

    In reply to MINI E: First Drive
    Sounds OK for a Beta product, and one that will probably stay a niche player. How's it for range, and performance as the battery drains down?


    The charger sounds good, but not everyone has access to 240V power, and not all of those that do have it where they can plug in to recharge conveniently. It's a good day to be an electrician....

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    Image of AllegraRareware AllegraRareware
    12/12/08

    @Van Sarockin:
    240 Watts not Volts. Watt=Volts * Amps. But 50 amps is not your average household outlet.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    12/13/08

    @AllegraRareware: Do us a favor, and try not to play with electricity.
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