Ahh, but you see, this one's based off of a Skyline R34. Which, I shouldn't have to remind any of you, doesn't have that same driving-a-computer stigma... or that awful designed-by-a-computer fuselage. This was a proper car.
And now it's a proper ute. Pull the awful wing and coat it with flat-grey primer and you've got a buyer.
@Everybody who didn't RTFA: This is NOT a Skyline. This is a Stagea wagon (as is the other one we saw today) with a Skyline front clip on it. That makes your "oh, you ruined a supercar" comments seem kinda ignorant (unless, of course the Stagea wagon is a supercar in your book). I actually like the white wagon better, but I'd drive this too (after removing that ridiculous wing, natch).
This is closer to being a Skyline than, say, a Beetle with a Rolls-Royce grille is to being a Roller, but that is because the Skyline and Stagea share a basic platform, not because affixing the Skyline front clip changes the car in any meaningful way.
If you don't like 'Caminos or wagons, that is your individual taste, and most reasonable people will not hold it against you. If you choose to go off about how stupid it is without even arming yourself with the most basic of readily-available facts, you're probably going to get called on it. Possibly much more rudely and derisively than I just did.
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See, this is why I'm so surprised you guys don't do more Japanese tuner coverage. Yes, the flashy colors, big wings, body kits and over use of stickers is hideous, but their love of the wagon, camino, and kei car is undeniable.
@Alfisted: Kei cars are a general category of small, personal, urban transport vehicles. They are not specific to one manufacturer, and are very popular in Japan.
No. This, this is the "meh". The Wagon was teh r0x0rz, This is more of teh sux0rz.
Okay, I exaggerate, it's still kinda cool, but the man-step on the tailgate wrecks it. The other one looked like a production car, this looks a bit like a hack-job.
I have to think yes. If, and only if, there was no factory Camino. i.e: turning a Falcon wagon into a Camino is bad. Turning a Caddy Hearse into a Camino: Good.
Exception: Caminoing a flat front van is always good, especially if there are endos involved.
@leavethegun-takethecannoli: Wearing a cap is acceptable so long as it is easily removed at proper times to show respect (like when Eating /Refueling).
This of course is allowed provided the cap is worn as intended and not cocked off to one side or another. Caps are allowed to be worn backward if there is a valid reason (Watch old Dukles of Hazard reruns, use Cooter as a reference... try not to get distracted by Daisy's shorts.)
In reverance to the Original El'-Rampa-chero spirit, caps are allowed to be tucked into the belt area (between the cab and bed), and adorned with fish hooks.
Bonus points are to be awarded when cap reaches "THE HAT" status.
@SirNotAppearing: As one of the louder representatives of the Wagon Uber Alles faction of Jalopnicity, I'm going to go with "no". I don't think it's acceptable. Firstly, because that means there's one less wagon in the world, and that's just wrong. But also: Wagons are designed with a different sort of structural rigidity. This isn't as much of a concern with the older models, but with newer cars, engineers are always looking at torsional stress and body stiffness, etc. In the same way that a convertible needs additional reinforcement, a wagon has a different requirement for rigidity. When you take that much roof away, the car is going to behave very strangely. I would think, therefore, that a sedan would be a better starting point, even though it would take more work.
What is up with you guys and El Caminos? All they did is ruin the lines of a great car by chopping the hell out of it. Rice + Redneck = GT-R El Camino = FAIL!
You are right, I don't get it. I am all for enhancing a car for performance reasons but if you need a vehicle to haul something, get a damn truck. Look at the purpose of the purpose of this car. You put a bed in the back of a performance car and you still can't carry anything. There is a damn high rise wing on the back of that thing. Most people make fun of the guys that put wings on the back of thier truck, but here it is ok because it was a car first.
Yes, it looks different and is lighter in the back to drift easier but to me they just cut up a beast of the car and made it a lesser car in my eyes.
@mlevere1992: I think you need to spend a little more time on Jalopnik reading old posts and comments. There are a lot of memes unique to the site; I'm sure you've picked up on at least some of them, like Megan Fox pictures/references, dead hookers, no more use of the phrase "polish a turd", something or other about dragons, hooning, "cotomer sevis"... and El Caminos being generally awesome and greater than the sum of their parts.
In fact, let me just give you a link so you can look them up yourself:
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@Leeeeena the Jalopchick: Someone needs to sit down and actually figure out the origin of all the memes, (like, say, Breakfast Scotch) put them all together, and give them to Uncle Pete to do up an announcement that we can hide somewhere and toss to n00bs.
@Deartháir now campaigns for leavethegun - takethecannoli: Heh, I didn't realize it was you who started the Breakfast Scotch one! I'd be glad to put a list together, but I fear it may not be very complete, as I've only been on Jalopnik since the end of February. Hmmm... maybe I'll go start something in the Cotomer Sevis Smoking Lounge so you folks can add to it.
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And now it's a proper ute. Pull the awful wing and coat it with flat-grey primer and you've got a buyer.
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This is closer to being a Skyline than, say, a Beetle with a Rolls-Royce grille is to being a Roller, but that is because the Skyline and Stagea share a basic platform, not because affixing the Skyline front clip changes the car in any meaningful way.
If you don't like 'Caminos or wagons, that is your individual taste, and most reasonable people will not hold it against you. If you choose to go off about how stupid it is without even arming yourself with the most basic of readily-available facts, you're probably going to get called on it. Possibly much more rudely and derisively than I just did.
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Okay, I exaggerate, it's still kinda cool, but the man-step on the tailgate wrecks it. The other one looked like a production car, this looks a bit like a hack-job.
Plus, you know, Wagons Uber Alles.
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I might want one.
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No, it is not. Slide in camper: Fine. Fabric toneau cover: Fine. Cap: Not cool.
@SirNotAppearing:
I have to think yes. If, and only if, there was no factory Camino. i.e: turning a Falcon wagon into a Camino is bad. Turning a Caddy Hearse into a Camino: Good.
Exception: Caminoing a flat front van is always good, especially if there are endos involved.
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This of course is allowed provided the cap is worn as intended and not cocked off to one side or another. Caps are allowed to be worn backward if there is a valid reason (Watch old Dukles of Hazard reruns, use Cooter as a reference... try not to get distracted by Daisy's shorts.)
In reverance to the Original El'-Rampa-chero spirit, caps are allowed to be tucked into the belt area (between the cab and bed), and adorned with fish hooks.
Bonus points are to be awarded when cap reaches "THE HAT" status.
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Personally, I much prefer longroofs, but if you're going to Caminoize one, please do it right, not some pathetic hackjob.
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I think I'd quite like a Mk.V Rabbit Pickup!
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GUARDS!
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You are right, I don't get it. I am all for enhancing a car for performance reasons but if you need a vehicle to haul something, get a damn truck. Look at the purpose of the purpose of this car. You put a bed in the back of a performance car and you still can't carry anything. There is a damn high rise wing on the back of that thing. Most people make fun of the guys that put wings on the back of thier truck, but here it is ok because it was a car first.
Yes, it looks different and is lighter in the back to drift easier but to me they just cut up a beast of the car and made it a lesser car in my eyes.
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Damn edit...
Yes, it looks different and is lighter in the back to drift easier but to me they just cut up a beast of a car and made it a lesser car in my eyes.
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In fact, let me just give you a link so you can look them up yourself:
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And let's not forget "Pussy Magnet Yellow"...
And totally awesome Soviet Ekranoplans...
And Ray Wert's fondness for appearing in public wearing Burberry...
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I can't believe I almost forgot. 12 months of over-billeted, slammed S-10 goodness. Who could possibly resist?
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You watch your mouth.
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