Friends, I ask you this: When that phone call comes in at 3am and your best friend has just murdered 60 homeless people and shoved their bodies into a gooseneck horse trailer, who do you want on the other end of the line--me or the Prius?
@greimel: i must agree with you on the tranny issue.... but when you think about the availability of long-life/retread commercial tires... you could be looking at some significant savings in the long run..
Um, you guys may not like it but the lack of a heavy duty diesel is a big part of why buyers in need of a heavy-duty tow rig are still leaning towards Ford and Chevy. My father-in-law needs 3500 series Chevy dualies for his insulation business to tow scissor lifts and whatnot and Toyota has yet to make something that meets the requirements.
@JaredZX3: i think that one problem is that one major market segment that could use these types of foreign made trucks are selling/delivering to customers who don't want to see anything other than a dodge, ford, or chevy/gmc pull up their 1/2 mi. + driveway...
my father deals with this (selling & servicing irrigation equipment to farms) on a seasonal (yearly type) basis...
otherwise... he'd have some nissan and toyota trucks pulling his trailors...
@elwood: Given the variation of production locations used by modern domestic and foreign automakers alike, the most accurate term would be "junk." Personally, though, I had a Toyota Hilux that went 339,000 miles, and my roommate had an Escort that sucked the fat bone.
@theeastbaykid: That's because your Hilux was imported.
ZING!
(Seriously, though, I can't be the only one who's noticed that as soon as the Japanese started building cars here, their rust problems disappeared, and other, new problems cropped up...)
i still seize to understand americans' fondness to pickup trucks, can someone PLEASE explain it to me ?! why would someone in a middle management position, who has no second job as a plumber, and basically never hauls offroad bikes, have a F350 !?
@c0de: I don't think it can be explained. The best I can do is that it's like a realtor with a Hummer or a dishwasher with a Harley. It's a fantasy of what they would be if they had the freedom to do what they wanted. It's role playing to some extent. Look at me, I'm a rugged cowboy (until I have to go do some guy's taxes).
The farthest most SUV's get off road is when somebody goes over a curb trying to make a corner.
Some people do have a legitimate need and it may or may not be obvious. My mom has a 30 acre ranch with livestock and 6 rental houses. You see a little gray haired old lady driving a giant truck, she sees how she's getting the Kubota to the one of her other properties.
@jduffy13: I think once in my life, I've seen a dually hauling a horse trailer. Once in a blue moon, they're towing a camper (seldom even a gooseneck- the one person I know with a fifth wheel camper has a Chevy that isn't a dually, crewcab or diesel!). Let's face it: these trucks are prosthetics.
@BЯдΖǐL-ЯЄРΘЯΤЄЯ - now also back on two-stroke: The Tomahawk would visually go pretty well with this truck, but since the Tomahawk is a Dodge, to pair it with a non-Dodge truck would be a tough sell.
Quick, someone tell Boss Hoss to drop a 'yota V8 into one of their monstrosities.
NO matter how much torque this thing produces, it's not enough to pull the tastelessness off of most of the cars at SEMA.
Maybe you guys should take a really long cable tied to the bumper of this thing and string together your choice of the ten worst offenders of taste near it...
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Lemme play with it! ill break the hell out of it!
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Watch the video to see what I mean.
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I just want to run my fingers through it.
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American trucks? Japanese cars? Pfft.
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"...gooseneck horse trailer"
No doubt much harder to haul than a horseneck goose trailer (and undoubtedly much quieter)... I'm 'down' with that, fer sure...
/I'm here all week folks. Try the veal...
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...And they'd pobably park it next to me at the market...
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I think their target market will wonder why a 5-speed since all the big 3 offer 6-speed duallies.
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I'd buy one (if I wanted/needed a dually).
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Oh, you mean it was designed like that?
Well, it's still better than the new GMC tailgate...
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my father deals with this (selling & servicing irrigation equipment to farms) on a seasonal (yearly type) basis...
otherwise... he'd have some nissan and toyota trucks pulling his trailors...
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toyota = imported junk..
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ZING!
(Seriously, though, I can't be the only one who's noticed that as soon as the Japanese started building cars here, their rust problems disappeared, and other, new problems cropped up...)
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/if you can't say something nice...
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The farthest most SUV's get off road is when somebody goes over a curb trying to make a corner.
Some people do have a legitimate need and it may or may not be obvious. My mom has a 30 acre ranch with livestock and 6 rental houses. You see a little gray haired old lady driving a giant truck, she sees how she's getting the Kubota to the one of her other properties.
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CAUSE WERE MERICAN
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I'm tired, don't mind me.
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Quick, someone tell Boss Hoss to drop a 'yota V8 into one of their monstrosities.
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Maybe you guys should take a really long cable tied to the bumper of this thing and string together your choice of the ten worst offenders of taste near it...