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    Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six

    Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: Chrysler Corporation

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    Image of mechimike mechimike
    09/06/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    Just picked up a '49 Plymouth with this engine. $500 I paid for the whole car. The oil looked fresh, I rigged up a battery to it and poured a little gas down the carburetor. That little engine just took off- what a sweet sounding I6. I believe by '49 it was rated around 97 horsepower or so, but 200 lb-ft of torque or thereabouts at something like 17 RPM.

    The oil filter was _optional_ on this engine- that's it in the above pictures off to the right, the speckled white and black jug with the black lid, with the band clamp around it.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    When it comes to old engines like these, the level of simplicity* blows my mind.

    The nuts and bolts are large, and placed where you can get to them. Everything's got lots of room around it and there's lots of extra metal.

    This was before a host of modern concerns forced the optimization of mass and volume that leads to oddly placed bolts that you strip as you run them into and aluminum head.

    *Distributors excepted.
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    Image of toyotadiesel toyotadiesel
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    I know a guy who has one of these engines that he just rebuilt. Its in a 50's Dodge Coronet with a gyromatic transmission

    Bonus points to whoever knows what what a gyromatic is without using Google
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    So, fifty years later, what were the final performance numbers? Still 68 horsepower?

    It's not often that I don't know anything about an engine on EOTD, but you've stumped me here. I've never seen one, touched one, worked on one or tasted one. Mostly because, well, let's face it I'm not a huge Mopar fan, after they killed my beloved Rambler.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/05/09

    @Deartháir II: The Return: You take that back. MoPar never went near AMC until the late-mid 80s and Rambler was a dead duck way before then.
    Rambler was actually killed in 1983 by Vehiculos Automotores Mexicanos (VAM) in Mexico--that's where the last Rambler rolled out.
    Of course if you mean, MoPar killed Rambler out on the streets, well, yeah. Killed it a quarter-mile at a time.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    This engine had to walk to school uphill, both ways, in seven feet of snow (or, in its appearance in the original Chrysler Metric, 2.1 metres). And it lived long enough to tell you about it.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    Gotta give an honorable mention here to another legendary Chrysler 6 - the 232/258/4.0 that powered Ramblers, AMCs and Jeeps from 1964 - 2006. Thank God my wife finally let me out of an early agreement we made to keep driving our Cherokee 'til the engine died, or they'd probably have to bury me in it.
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    Image of Deartháir II Deartháir II
    09/05/09

    @CPO Alfisted: Actually, I believe it's also related to the even earlier 195.6, although I'd need Mr. The Dog to confirm this for me.
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    Image of .357 .357
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    I'm pretty sure the Flathead had a 50 year run.
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    Image of Jim-Bob Jim-Bob
    09/05/09

    @.357: If you are referring to the Ford V8-60, it was produced from 1932 until 1953 in the US. However, the French continued to make them for military use into the 80's or 90's! So, today you can go get a French Ford Flathead as military surplus with an improved block made of high nickel content iron, and with several other engineering improvements built in. Yes, the French actually managed to make something better and not worse.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    I think it stopped in 72 but I wouldn't swear to it. As a closet MoPar freak, I checked and the biggest flathead 6 for cars was 265.5 c i for 218 ft/lbs of torque at 1600 RPM. As Allpar says, "Just off idle, this engine produced maximum torque, making it ideal for industrial use."
    Dependable, and torquey. And shoved aside in the 50s by the mighty Hemi and the fastest production car, the Chrysler 300.
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    Image of MOPAR-MAN MOPAR-MAN
    09/05/09

    @Novaload Is Just Plain Novaload Again: You just got a heart-click for finally admitting what I knew all along. :)
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/05/09

    @MOPAR-MAN: You got me. 1970 Hemi Cuda, please.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    09/05/09


    @Novaload Is Just Plain Novaload Again: Plus, there's always Miss MoPar:
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six

    Here's a Flathead that's a bit sexier (for our dragon brethren)
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    Image of snapoversteer 'bout to get told snapoversteer 'bout to get told
    09/05/09

    @acarr260: Twin carb? What's that from?

    I'm not a dragon; I'm just dragon-curious.
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    Image of acarr260 acarr260
    09/05/09

    @snapoversteer should STFU because: I found it on jalopyjournal. This is what the poster in the forum had to say about it:

    "Stick with the flathead.

    You can do a lot with these but will never be fast. However, a clean nice flathead will draw a lot of attention as they stand out among the sea of V8's. Here is mine, also check out Pete 'Blueskies" site at www.50plymouth.com he has a great looking flathead."

    This is the thread: [www.jalopyjournal.com]
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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    09/05/09

    @snapoversteer should STFU because:
    "...I'm just dragon-curious."

    Hahaha...! Now THAT's one to add to the lexicon!
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    Image of armyofchuckness armyofchuckness
    09/05/09

    @acarr260: Wow. And I thought the Slant 6 guys were an obscure bunch. That's a sweet looking engine.
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    ...... but now it takes an Optima battery to start it?
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    Image of Tucker589 is Hoarding James Dean's 550 Spyder Tucker589 is Hoarding James Dean's 550 Spyder
    09/05/09

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: You never know when you're gonna have to hook it up to someones testicles, be prepared.
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    09/05/09

    @Tucker589 is Hoarding James Dean's 550 Spyder: The education received in Boy Scouts is paying off!
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    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six

    Interesting article. This is an early photo of the M37, 3/4-ton utility truck production line. (I wish I could retain even half of what I learn here.)
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    Image of Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II
    09/05/09

    @skaycog - Just Say Yes!: That is awesome. Got any more?
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    skaycog - Just Say Yes! promoted this comment Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II was starred Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/05/09

    @Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: This was only early photo I could find. Lots of photos of restored M37s.
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    09/05/09

    @skaycog - Just Say Yes!: Do you know where these are being built? I remember seeing some pictures of old military trucks being built hanging on the wall at Chrysler's Warren Truck (Dodge City) plant, back when I used to go there. Great pictures, but curious if you know what plant this is from?
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    skaycog - Just Say Yes! promoted this comment Lost in the age of Aerostar was starred Lost in the age of Aerostar was unstarred
    Image of skaycog skaycog
    09/05/09

    @Lost in the age of Aerostar: I don't know. I really thought Wikipedia would say, but it didn't. Wiki does have some external links you might check out. Good question.
    [en.wikipedia.org]
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    Image of Lost in the age of Aerostar Lost in the age of Aerostar
    09/05/09

    @skaycog - Just Say Yes!: Thanks for checkin'.
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    Image of MadMechanic MadMechanic
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    Like the Sebring, an old design that just wouldn't die. Unlike the Sebring, its presence alone doesn't make babies cry.

    ....poet and didn't know it?
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    09/05/09

    In reply to Engine Of The Day: Chrysler Flathead Six
    I know that the displacement had grown to 230 CI by the fifties. That's what they used in the Power Wagons and M37.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/02/09

    In reply to Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: Chrysler Corporation
    I still cannot believe how well Chrysler pulled off the long, low, swept look from the late-50's through the early-70's.

    In fact, I pass, daily, now that I am back to a-workin', a place which has a '68 300 convertible for sale in addition to an '81 Imperial with a parts car.

    I've gotta find a new way home.... This job doesn't come close to paying for good food, much less a hobby of any sort.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/03/09

    @I gotta job, I'm gonna pay the rent: ...with the convenient exception of '62-63 Plymouths and Dodges, excluding 880.
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    Image of JCWhitless JCWhitless
    08/02/09

    In reply to Celebrating 450 Old Vehicles Down On The Alameda Street: Chrysler Corporation
    Not a single 63'....Tisk Tisk.

    Perhaps we need to do a feature on commenters rides? Perhaps "Whip of the week?"

    Just a thought. Or just call it "Down in the Comments"
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