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    How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo

    GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination

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    Image of theeastbaykid theeastbaykid
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo
    USA! USA! Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika! 美國! 미국! #buicklacrosse
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo

    What about the Vauxhall that became a Saturn that became an Opel that didn't become a Vauxhall and became a Daewoo instead?
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    Edited by Pessimippopotamus at 11/10/09 2:57 PM Pessimippopotamus was starred Pessimippopotamus was unstarred
    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/10/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: actually it was a Pontiac that became a Saturn that became a Opel.

    While they came out around the same time, (actually the GT came out first by a weird quirk if I remember right) the Sky was designed for Saturn and moved to Opel, not the other way around. #buicklacrosse
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    Pessimippopotamus promoted this comment Jim Topoleski was starred Jim Topoleski was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/10/09

    @Jim Topoleski: Well, if we want to go back that far, it's going to be

    The Pontiac (Solstice Concept) that begat a Chevy (Nomad Concept) and a Saturn (Curve Concept) that never was, that begat a Vauxhall (VX Lightning Concept) that almost became an Alfa Romeo that became a Pontiac (Solstice) and a Saturn (Sky) that became an Opel (GT) that didn't become a Vauxhall and became a Daewoo (G2X) instead. #buicklacrosse
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    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo

    Nothing is really new. Who here remembers the Buick Opel by Isuzu (yes, that was its official name)?
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    Edited by tonyola at 11/10/09 2:36 PM tonyola was starred tonyola was unstarred
    Image of Jim7 Jim7
    11/10/09

    @tonyola: I had one of these. Only my wife's Datsun F10 was more industrial. On a hot day the vinyl seats would mold to your body; you literally had to peel the car off of you. #buicklacrosse
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    tonyola promoted this comment Jim7 was starred Jim7 was unstarred
    Image of tonyola tonyola
    11/10/09


    @Jim7: A Datsun F-10? Oh my. I haven't seen one of those in ages. Those had the biggest googly-eyes ever. The wagon looked at least semi-normal by Deep-Malaise-Japanese standards. The hatchback coupe was something else altogether. #buicklacrosse
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    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo
    I like diversity. That's why I like Korean-American-German takeout places. #buicklacrosse
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo
    Reduce.
    Reuse.
    Recycle.
    Rebadge. #buicklacrosse
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    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    11/10/09

    In reply to How A Daewoo Became A Buick Became An Opel Became A Buick Became A Daewoo
    Good thing I can get the Lacetti as a Buick. I don't want to get Daewoo on my hands. #buicklacrosse
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    Image of buick61 buick61
    11/10/09

    @Scandinavian Flick: Did you just reference a Queen Latifa movie? I think you did #buicklacrosse
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    Scandinavian Flick promoted this comment buick61 was starred buick61 was unstarred
    Image of Scandinavian Flick Scandinavian Flick
    11/10/09

    @buick61: I'm sorry...

    If it makes you feel any better; I never watched it. I just remember that from the commercials... #buicklacrosse
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    Doesn't the antenna's lack of telescoping ability rather limit what can be carried on the roof rack?

    We'll not discuss the amount of weight or aerodynamic drag of said item preventing the car from moving, of course....
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    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    GM should just use the small compact Opel.. and sell it as a Chevy.. I forget the name.. but its a ton better looking.
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    Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet promoted this comment stevecmh was starred stevecmh was unstarred
    Image of blondnga blondnga
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    i think GM is where Ford of North America was a few years back...creating inferior design products for their take on the the tastes of the north american driver which they deemed different from the european driver.. where in fact what the north american driver wanted is what the europeans were getting as evidence in the sales numbers of the european products vs the american products. Ford woke up and is giving us close to the same thing as what they offer elsewhere...GM needs to do the same and stop treating the north american driver as if we are some mutant half whit cousin to the europeans...which might be true but that is for a different conversation.
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    FP - Funny how it seems quiet around here, eh? promoted this comment blondnga was starred blondnga was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/19/09

    @blondnga: To be fair, the European approach didn't work for Ford originally (Capri/Merkurs were poorly marketed, Merkurs were too expensive, Contour/Mystique didn't have a market niche with the larger, albeit less-well-handling, Taurusable only a couple grand more, etc.)
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination

    Too bad I can't see the family resemblance.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    08/19/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: That was my second thought. My first was, of course, the Aveo.
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    Image of underwear-ninja underwear-ninja
    08/19/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: I got cut off by some one driving one of those the other day. She was pretty much begging to get rear-ended by the Bonneville I was driving at the time.
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    Image of Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    Why is it so difficult for GM to make a good looking and interesting sub-compact?
    This thing is neither and won't get any better with a Chevy grill.
    I'm a Chevy guy and based on on design alone I want a Ford Fiesta much more than I want this. I'd take a Toyota/Scion IQ city car before this too.

    Come on GM, all we want is an interesting, cool sub-compact...Make One!
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    Maymar may have approved the "approve comment" button promoted this comment Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event was starred Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event was unstarred
    Image of Maymar Maymar
    08/19/09

    @Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event: The problem with that is the North American contingent of "we" are about half the Jalops - it's not enough of a market for GM to care.
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    Image of Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event
    08/19/09

    @Maymar may have approved the approve comment button: But if they are going to have an offering in the sub-compact segment, shouldn't they at least try to compete?

    Interesting and cool are what sells in this segment, a certain quirkiness is required to overcome the small stature. People who want appliances don't buy sub-compacts anyway because they are afraid it will be too small for their 2.3 kids. So there shouldn't be any fear of intriguing styling that will exclude the appliances seekers.

    Like I said, if GM is going to enter the segment then they might as well compete.
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    Edited by Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event at 08/19/09 11:37 AM Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event was starred Karsten Von Urea for All Sales Event was unstarred
    Image of FTGDWolverineEdition'09 FTGDWolverineEdition'09
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    Holy cow! You guys are citing GCC now? A sign of the times I guess.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    One thing about GM, they sure held on to their infamous rebadging credentials in the restructuring. You would think there would be a lesson to be learned.
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    Image of CulleyCTS CulleyCTS
    08/19/09

    @Flathead Smith: That is a stupid comment actually... The rebadging that got them in trouble was between a Chevy and a Saturn sold down the street from each other. The Japanese as well as everyone else does it on a world-wide level.
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    TimTim promoted this comment CulleyCTS was starred CulleyCTS was unstarred
    Image of TimTim TimTim
    08/19/09

    @CulleyCTS: During restructuring GM has repeatedly vocalized their negative opinion regarding badgeneering, particularly directed toward the G8 GXP. They're talking out both sides of their mouths by re-badging the Spark here and using the Vue platform for a new Buick which we heard about the other day.
    FS isn't specifically against re-badging here, just GM's double standards.

    Also, your argument is much more appropriate without the first line.
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    Image of Flathead Smith Flathead Smith
    08/19/09

    @CulleyCTS: I'm sure we will eventually get two, three or four versions of this here in the states, given time.
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    Image of Brimful of Ash on the 78 Brimful of Ash on the 78
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination

    Back seat instructional placard.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    08/19/09


    @Ash78: But when you fold down the back seats...
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    08/19/09

    In reply to GM Daewoo Matiz Creative Sparks The Imagination
    So does this Transform into some kind of horrible Korean stereotype robot?
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