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Detroit, 3:41 PM
Sun Dec 6
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11/23/09
Repetition is key to sales.
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Don't tease me, I'm fragile.
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Please don't tease me, I'm fragile.
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#speakup
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#tips
11/23/09
If it rarely snows where you live, the only excuse for owning an all-wheel-drive car is that the other version drives only the fronts.
11/23/09
#speakup
11/24/09
And AWD systems are heavy. Heavy ain't good, not for acceleration, not for fuel economy. Plus, the added complication adds cost and adds more things to break.
11/24/09
#speakup
11/23/09
Since the first concept I've seen of this coup i could not stop thinking that a staggered rim size would benefit this design immensely. Pardon my Photoshop hack-and-slash. Ignore that the rear brakes are bigger then the front and that the car no longer sits level. You get the idea.
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I knew they'd bring back the bustle-back!
My Grandpa willbe thrilled!
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All of them had concept-to-production times that were as long or longer than the CTS coupe.
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Ford did the same thing with the 2002 Thunderbird. After seeing it every month in every car magazine, it felt like it had been around for 5 years before it even went on sale.
11/23/09
The SLR, R-Class, X1, X6, and GLK were among the worst of them.
#tips
11/23/09
I knew you loved us.
11/23/09
And for 2013, the -V version.
11/23/09
Although, a two-door CTS shooting break would be pretty damn cool.
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It's been a strange day...
11/23/09
Still, the fact that the CTS has seen the light of production is the one bit of good news I've had thus far.
11/23/09
Good news, though, it is. GM lives!
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11/24/09
Even more understeer potential!
11/23/09
Then the GFC hit, and GM canned it's Australian plans. Bummer.
Cadillac has become the most interesting of GM's brands. Please look at your Aussie export program again. We love RWD V8s...
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Other thing, unless backup cameras are standard, that car will be unparkable in reverse!
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By that, I mean that while it has nice leather (I dig the stitched dash), there are some things that seem badly done. For instance, the pop up nav begins making chirring noises after a while everytime you turn it on, as noted by Edmunds Inside Line.
Yes, I like the CTS, but only as a sedan. Still think a lot could be improved. If they really want to be an alternative to BMW, Audi, etc, they have to improve that interior, that is my opinion (I also think BMW interior's dont cut it either).
Besides, you have to admit that this CTS coupe is not a real looker, and it has those awful gun slit windows every car seems to have now.
11/23/09
Edmunds Inside Line has all the credibility of Consumer Reports. Try as they might, they are glorified appliance raters. I read the same review that you did, and that is the only time I have heard any complaint about the CTS navigation system.
As for the interior, unless you personally don't care for the design aesthetic, which is understandable, I don't see where it falls short in any way. The quality of materials is there. The build quality is there.The design, while somewhere in left field, is far more interesting and intuitive than BMW or Mercedes-Benz interiors. The sedan could have a little more backseat legroom, by that's a minor nitpick. What in particular about the interior is it that you think needs improvement?
11/23/09
I've been inside a CTS, I just don't like it. Hardly objective, but we are talking opinions here.
I may be wrong, but on what I'm certainly not wrong (again, unobjectively) is on the car's exterior looks.
That beltline is too high, windows too small...
As someone said before in another thread, looks like a photoshop job!
Don't get mad people, it's just an opinion!
11/23/09
Whether you like the car or not, you're talking about it and raising brand awareness, which is precisely what matters to them right now.
I just don't get that people are so quick to judge the interior based on their subjective opinion of whether or not they like the way it looks. Again, I have no problems with people not caring for the overall design aesthetic of the interior. But the design aesthetic is not the same as the materials used, which in the case of the CTS, are as good as anything else you'll find in its market range.
As for the Edmunds Inside Line test car, you'll note that was pretty much their one and only major objective nitpick, and a barely legitimate one as it happened in one car and one car only; there has been no evidence of it (that I know of) in other cars. It's not unreasonable to expect that in a line of mass-produced cars, once in while, one of them will have a slight quirk.
That's nothing that can be legitimately held against the car or the manufacturer, otherwise BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi would be in the poor house with all the gadget and system flaws present in their cars, which, contrary to popular perception, are quite frequent.
#tips
11/23/09
I just don't like the way this looks!
#tips
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Both are equally obtainable.
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why is making an AWD manual coupe so difficult? (i'd throw turbo/super-charging in there too...)
took forever for BMW to do it (335 AWD coupe). other than that... the TT and the A5 is about it. R8 / Gallardo and the C4s / Turbo on the higher end i suppose.
but a basic manual AWD coupe seems to be difficult these days.
11/23/09
One giant expense standing in the way of offering an AWD with a manual is the cost associated with certifying the vehicle. Currently, all car companies have to certify each powertrain combination separately. That means certifying the engine/transmission/drive wheels with all their inherent costs associated with it. If GM wants to certify the CTS AWD Manual, they would have to go through all the same certification process again. Balance that off with the potential sales (less than 1% of the mix) and it really doesn't justify the expense.
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