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    Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?

    IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating

    Kia Soul, Insight And Prius Awarded IIHS Top Safety Ratings

    IIHS Crash Tests Five Budget Coupes: Ford, Volvo Earn Top Safety Picks

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    Image of Ford Tempo Fanatic Ford Tempo Fanatic
    11/18/09

    In reply to Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?
    I've got an old VHS, no idea where it came from, featuring "crash tests" of trains. Old school steam engines that were pending the crusher were bought cheap and crashed into each other. Call it a demonstration, crash test, whatever, but spectators were most definitely there.
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    Image of TR3-A TR3-A
    11/18/09

    In reply to Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?
    Now there is an idea for the auto manufacturers to make a little extra cash - sell tickets to the destruction tests. Heck, were I in town, I'd buy one! A great place to take a date.
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    coupeZ600 promoted this comment TR3-A was starred TR3-A was unstarred
    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/18/09

    In reply to Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?
    I can't decide if this is supposed to be an actual endurance advertisement or just a really boring stunt show.
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/18/09

    In reply to Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?
    You see, this is why the IIHS and NHTSA crash all new cars through a wall of fire. How else would you know that you and your family be safe, if you were to crash into a wall of fire?
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    Image of Steve_in_NC Steve_in_NC
    11/18/09

    In reply to Chevrolet Crash Testing: A Spectator Sport?
    looks like they are trying to sell to law enforcement.

    RELATED I went through the NHTSA training for passenger safety in the late 90's to participate in child safety seat installations and related community service. During the training class we were shown films from Germany where they used live prisoners for crash testing, during lunch no less. They were taken around the 1950's. No one is killed but they are a hoot to watch. Has anyone else seen these? and if so are they available online?
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    Image of Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp Paul Y. can't get in the club; gotta parking lot pimp
    11/18/09

    @Steve_in_NC: Well, being at work, I don't have the time to hunt these down, however I'd start here: [www.archive.org]
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    09/08/09

    In reply to IIHS Crash Tests Five Budget Coupes: Ford, Volvo Earn Top Safety Picks
    Aha...proof that even though the US Focus looks like a Chinese car, it crashes much better than one!
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    Just realized that when Cash4Clunkers Part Deux comes in 20 years, junkyards are going to have a tougher time crushing these coconuts...
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    On the bright side, a bit of roof crush in a rollover means you roll less. If you don't have any energy dissipation in a roll situation, you just keep rolling.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    I'd rather see a more real-world test.

    There are many places in the CO high country which almost beg to have vehicles rolled down them, sideways. Station a lifting 'copter nearby, and roll away.

    You'd get the forces of more than one roll, the vehicle's shape affecting it, and the randomness of rocks/boulders.

    Plus, it'd be entertaining to watch. Not even a 30 minute drive from Denver.
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    Image of solracer solracer
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    My personal testing gives the Chevy Silverado pickup 5 stars, thankfully none of us were injured in our Christmas Day roll-over last year (on the way to the Thunderhill LeMons race)
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    Edited by solracer at 08/20/09 12:15 PM solracer was starred solracer was unstarred
    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/20/09

    @solracer: I'm glad to see everyone make it through that alright. How did the car fare?
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    Image of Bret Bret
    08/20/09

    @engineerd: The car (Pujo! the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys' Peugeot 505) broke free of his tie down straps and bounced around in the trailer like a drumstick in a bag of Shake-n-Bake.

    After tearing the roof off the trailer, Pujo! was dragged by his ass up out of the culvert and drove home (minus a few windows).

    Here's a link to our blog entry with more wreck shots.
    [teamlemon.blogspot.com]
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    Image of engineerd engineerd
    08/20/09

    @Bret: Oh wow. Like I said, I'm glad everyone got out alright. Still, it was probably painful watching your hopes for the bags of nickels slip away.
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    I'm glad the IIHS is using a static test to evaluate a dynamic impact event*.

    IIHS - The Consumer Reports of the Auto Industry

    * unless they're evaluating being crushed between a cargo ship and a big rock.
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    Edited by SeanKHotay at 08/20/09 12:07 PM SeanKHotay was starred SeanKHotay was unstarred
    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: Before anyone says it, I worked in auto safety. I know the thinking behind it.
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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    08/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: So you're saying the crystalline structures of metals might deflect differently under rapid shock as opposed to steady force? That's just ridiculous.
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    Image of Bret Bret
    08/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: Yet another in the growing catalog of reasons why I hate IIHS.

    For the love of God, can't they perform tests with even some semblance of reality?
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    Image of sdvictor sdvictor
    08/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: . A stronger roof in a static test has an extremely high correlation to a stronger roof in a dynamic test. Physics is physics

    The US automakers have proven they know sh*t about physics and auto safety with their constant fight against rollover roof standards.
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    SeanKHotay promoted this comment Edited by sdvictor at 08/20/09 12:45 PM sdvictor was starred sdvictor was unstarred
    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    08/20/09

    @sdvictor: Yes, it somewhat does. FIA uses a similar multidirectional method (albeit via FEA) for their roll cage approval process.

    Problem is, the A-pillar disappears on a certain vehicle like crushing a tin can under your foot during a proposed dynamic 'trip' rollover test...though it passes this static test.

    Physics is theory put to application, reality is reality.

    Which would you trust?
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    I understand the reason for using a multplier of the car's own weight to perform the test, but it would also be nice to know an absolute figure. It's not surprising that the Smart performed well since it's so light. I would like to know how the Smart and the Aveo compare (for example) when an equal force is applied to both roof structures, and not some multiple of the car's own weight.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    08/20/09

    @GreenN_Gold: For once having a light car and a safe car aren't mutually exclusive.
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    Image of 1300ccsoffury 1300ccsoffury
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    And yet...motorcycles still roam the earth.
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    Image of pres pres
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating
    Glad I have a roll cage. Geez.
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    Image of scoober65 scoober65
    08/20/09

    In reply to IIHS: Only Smart Fortwo Gets "Good" Roof Strength Rating

    I am thinking six times its weight...sure, sure its not at an angle, but them volvo engineers were ahead of the curve...
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    skaycog wants them all back promoted this comment scoober65 was starred scoober65 was unstarred
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