Dammit! I finally get the breakfast scotch dialed back so's I can stagger around again, and you go and do this to me. Might as well climb back on the booze wagon, and enjoy seeing double.
If it performs exceptionally well then I have no problems with it. Now, an old F1 experimental (ala the Brabham BT46B and Chaparral 2J) idea I'd like to see in a road car is vacuum created downforce. Maybe they can combine this and 6WD to create the most grippy car ever. It would look hideous, but it would be fun to comment on. Maybe even fun to drive.
For some reason I feel like this would have extremely good handling. Just the thought of four tires turning in the same direction instead of two seems like it should pose for better grip and tighter turns. Although the back end could still swing out. Maybe impose an AWD system and we might have a winner.
History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition. We want to live in the present and the only history that is worth a tinker's damn is the history we make today.
@graverobber- My Yugo Nova!: I wonder how they would react if you tried to extend their buy 3 get one free tire sale to a six wheel car? Would I have to buy six and get two free spares? Maybe someone with a dually truck can enlighten me...
Yeah, ok. So because there is a small chance of tire failure you're going to want to add a relatively large number of additional parts which could fail catastrophically.
2) "Less risk of aquaplaning"?
No. Less weight over greater surface area means MORE risk of hydroplaning.
3) "Better braking".
Probably, but 6 piston Brembo brakes on big ass rotors should be more than sufficient. Too much brake power and you're gonna' lose grip anyhow.
4) "Better comfort"?
Say what now?
5) "Better absorption of frontal impact"?
Why? Because you have more metal there? Add a fucking crumple zone.
Frankly #2 has me really worried about the design of the thing. If the designer can't figure out basic hydrodynamics then I don't trust anything he's going to build.
Why not just market it honestly and say "It looks neato!"
@logruszed: While I do agree with most of your statements, I am not so sure about #2.
You are correct that less weight over greater surface increases the likely hood of aquaplaning... but think about it a bit differently for just a moment if you would...
The front tire is cutting through standing water. The second front tire is directly behind, so it is MUCH more likely to have solid contact with the road. You would probably need to be driving stupid fast to get all four front tires to aquaplane. I could be wrong here, but I really think the front tires would clear water while the rear front (wtf?!) tires would provide good contact.
@logruszed: Also, the limit in braking performance is generally the tire's contact patch with the road and subsequent grip. If you can lock up the tires on your car with the stock brakes, adding massive Brembos won't shorten the stopping distances (it will, however, improve the brakes resistance to fading).
If you add more contact patch, though, then you consequently increase the amount of friction you can generate with the road, and should be able to significantly shorten braking distances.
@tek_nic: Maybe you're right. I was just considering the flat physics of the thing as surface area / the total weight, I hadn't considered the dynamic effect of the forerunner tire disrupting the water.
Would the suspension ration need to be tweaked on the front rear wheel set, I wonder?
@elwood: Yes, I wasn't actually disagreeing with the improved braking statement; I just felt that there are so many simpler methods to improve braking that get overlooked and that adding a very complex system to address that issue would be a least logical way to go about correcting a braking issue.
I thought they already put this into limited obscure production? I remember reading about this years ago, didn't think they would actually do something about it.
Imagine what fun you'll have drivng down the street in your Covini C6W and listening to the admiring cries of passerby yelling, "Photoshop!"
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I predict lashings of understeer.
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Now, an old F1 experimental (ala the Brabham BT46B and Chaparral 2J) idea I'd like to see in a road car is vacuum created downforce.
Maybe they can combine this and 6WD to create the most grippy car ever.
It would look hideous, but it would be fun to comment on. Maybe even fun to drive.
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History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition. We want to live in the present and the only history that is worth a tinker's damn is the history we make today.
Henry Ford
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Man, I'll bet the guys at Discount Tire get wood every time they see one of these multi-wheel monsters.
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"Why's it got 6 wheels?"
"Well, uh, it's uh, better for uh,..."
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Hammond: This... is the Covini C6W. It's the world's first road-legal six wheeled car. That makes it unique, which makes it cool.
Clarkson: No, it doesn't.
Hammond: What else on the road has six wheels? It's a conversation piece!
Clarkson: So you drive up to a dinner party, park it out front, and people start to talk about it...
Hammond: Yes! Exactly!
Clarkson: ...and then someone asks you: why's it got six wheels?
Hammond: Well, uh, I uh, it, it improves... uhh...
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What a 'tard...
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A road legal Tyrell P34.
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Yeah, ok. So because there is a small chance of tire failure you're going to want to add a relatively large number of additional parts which could fail catastrophically.
2) "Less risk of aquaplaning"?
No. Less weight over greater surface area means MORE risk of hydroplaning.
3) "Better braking".
Probably, but 6 piston Brembo brakes on big ass rotors should be more than sufficient. Too much brake power and you're gonna' lose grip anyhow.
4) "Better comfort"?
Say what now?
5) "Better absorption of frontal impact"?
Why? Because you have more metal there? Add a fucking crumple zone.
Frankly #2 has me really worried about the design of the thing. If the designer can't figure out basic hydrodynamics then I don't trust anything he's going to build.
Why not just market it honestly and say "It looks neato!"
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You are correct that less weight over greater surface increases the likely hood of aquaplaning... but think about it a bit differently for just a moment if you would...
The front tire is cutting through standing water. The second front tire is directly behind, so it is MUCH more likely to have solid contact with the road. You would probably need to be driving stupid fast to get all four front tires to aquaplane. I could be wrong here, but I really think the front tires would clear water while the rear front (wtf?!) tires would provide good contact.
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If you add more contact patch, though, then you consequently increase the amount of friction you can generate with the road, and should be able to significantly shorten braking distances.
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Would the suspension ration need to be tweaked on the front rear wheel set, I wonder?
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2 wheels = bad
6 wheels =too bad
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Imagine what fun you'll have drivng down the street in your Covini C6W and listening to the admiring cries of passerby yelling, "Photoshop!"