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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light

    How long will it last though?

    http://news.sina.com.cn/hdphoto/2009/0627/243.html#p=1

    Let alone those pics from the pre-Olympics earthquake.

    And they say the US infrastructure is bad after 40yrs...
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    Image of SeanKHotay SeanKHotay
    07/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: And I fail due to failure to read all the way thru the gallery before posting... :(
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    07/20/09

    @SeanKHotay: Those are some tough windows.
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    Image of MaWeiTao MaWeiTao
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    In the US first politicians would drag their feet making any kind of decision. Then they'd have to move onto the impact study phase which serves to purpose other than making money for a handful of consultants.

    Then we'd have a bunch of whiners trying to block the project because of either some perceived environmental impact or because they felt it threatened their "idyllic" community.

    Years later construction would finally begin. The construction company would seriously overcharge and the project would take 3 times as long as the already ridiculously long initial estimate. Union labor is in no small part to blame for that. Two guys standing around for every guy working.

    And when the project is finally done, it often doesn't properly address the issues it was supposed to resolve because of excessive compromising and poor planning. And the quality of the work would be substandard, not sufficiently resistant to the elements, foundation not adequate to handle load, premature wear, etc.

    This is how things today in America get done. Everyone's got an axe to grind but nobody has pride in the work they do.
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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    It's easy to speed up construction in China. Lead sets faster.
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    Image of coupeZ600 coupeZ600
    10/13/09

    @maximum-sienna: Ha!
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    Image of narf narf
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    Over there, road projects are "close everything and we'll get it done quick", vs. the "OMG, you bastards are taking a whole lane away!". So instead of completing a big project in 6 months, it takes 6 years, because the construction crew could only work a section at a time.
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    Image of coupeZ600 coupeZ600
    10/13/09

    @narf: One section?[i422.photobucket.com]
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    Image of donner_froh donner_froh
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    Hope the multistory building lasts a bit longer than the one in Shanghai that just plain tipped over.

    Shanghai, 6/29/09 http://tiny.cc/Shanghai
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    UDOT has a system where they actually build the overpass next to the freeway and then move it into place after its built to reduce time, money and delays. It seems to be working really well.
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    Image of CptSevere CptSevere
    07/20/09

    @Pete Gaines wuz here: I can see things are improving up there. Used to be, they'd never repair anything. Before they ripped the whole of I-15 up and rebuilt it before the Olympics, every viaduct, overpass and bridge had rebar showing through the concrete and some of them were shored up with I beams and wooden cribbing. Scary. One little tremor would have brought the whole thing down.
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    What's more amazing is that a century ago, Shijiazhuang was a sleepy village with barely 10,000 residents.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    07/20/09

    @Maxichamp: So was Las Vegas.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    I have it on good authority that such things cannot be accomplished without a union workforce.
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    Image of baldy_pm baldy_pm
    07/20/09

    @beercheck - Commentin' Dirty:

    I have it on good authority that such things cannot be accomplished without a SLAVE LABOR workforce.

    /fixed it for you
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    07/20/09

    @baldy_pm: Or that.
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    Image of TimTim TimTim
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    That's impressive, I bet all the coffee breaks and federal holidays during those months could be counted on one hand, but impressive none the less.
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    Image of LionZoo LionZoo
    07/20/09

    @TimTim: If I remember correctly, China gets a total of a bit more than 3 weeks of public holidays in a year.
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    So was this roadway elevation project more an effort to improve traffic flow, or to provide more housing for the growing urban homeless population?
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    Somehow I don't think this will last quite as long as that wall thing they built in china a few years back. I'd have more faith in an atlanta parking deck.
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    Image of Tyson Tyson
    07/20/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: It may very well last a hundred years with no issues at all, and that's really the problem with the boom in China. The contractors are all over the place, the materials are all over the place, and the inspections are totally lacking. Its a complete crapshoot with regards to quality on any construction.
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    Image of LionZoo LionZoo
    07/20/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: China currently seems to have issue with the build quality of your milk powder and your industrial goods, but their civil engineering seems quite up to snuff. Lately, American structures seem to have a higher failure rate based on my oh-so-accurate statistical process of noting press reported problems.

    Their earthquake code isn't quite so advanced though...
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    Image of jdoubleh jdoubleh
    07/20/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: Hopefully Chinese concrete isn't anything like Chinese drywall.
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    Image of e30m3 e30m3
    07/20/09

    @Tyson: the 1000 year Reich, I mean bridge
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    Image of JeepyJayhawk JeepyJayhawk
    07/20/09

    @P161911 now with M POWER!: As with most structures, depends on the footings, the reinforcement, and the concrete mix.
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    Image of 1000songs 1000songs
    07/20/09

    @JeepyJayhawk: I just got back from mainland China yesterday. It would appear that the footings, reinforcement and concrete mix are partially composed of the dead bodies of workers that didn't make it to the coffee break.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    07/20/09

    @LionZoo: If we're only to go by what's reported in the Chinese press, the whole country could be on fire and we might not know about it.
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    Image of KillerBee KillerBee
    07/20/09

    In reply to Chinese Road Construction At The Speed Of Light
    Sure, but if you stop at the red light too long, it gives you cancer.
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    Image of citroën67 citroën67
    07/20/09

    @KillerBee: COTD!
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