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    Image of jbh11126 jbh11126
    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    does it come with a free marriage proposal?

    ...otherwise, naaa #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    No bead locks? meh. #chevysilverado
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    I really cannot see how this is lame. The large grille, for example, is very functional, feeding cold air to the engine. #chevysilverado
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    The giant wheels and tires make it look like an R/C car brought to life size...which is probably why I can't not adore it.

    I'm no rock crawler and have no idea how capable it would be at it, but looks like it would be quite the snow monster. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    did you guys even look at this before cracking wise ? it's a JK Rubi with a Hemi and a six speed. They moved the fenders higher to get the clearance. #wrangler
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    If Dorothy hadn't already laid the smack down, this would be a great way for the munchkins to take on the Wicked Witch of the East. #wrangler
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    -Bigass tires to raise the CG higher and make rollovers bumpier
    -Chop top to bring roofline closer so when you rollover you hit your head more
    -Can't tell if it's a solid axle but doesn't look like it from here - IFS is nice on the street but if you're going offroad, you want it solid for better articulation.
    -AMC 4.0 is AWOL. The 3.8 V6 that replaces it isn't an awful engine, but dang. I just liked that gigantic tractor mill glaring out from under the hood, you know? #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: Much wider tires and much wider stance making it less rollover prone, clearly a pumpkin up front, it doesn't have a six cylinder in it at all, hemi swapped.. #wrangler
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    Image of Steeze McQueen Steeze McQueen
    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: -The tires barely raised the cog as there is no suspension lift difference between a stock rubi

    -Thats a Dana 44

    -It has a 5.7 hemi

    What picture were you looking at? #wrangler
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    Image of Andrew Richard Chadwick Stevenson Andrew Richard Chadwick Stevenson
    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: Big ass tires make rock crawling easier, and raise your ground clearance. This isn't a street cehicle. Plus, if you compare this to nearly any built off-road rig with 40" meats, it's significantly lower, meaning *less* chance of a rollover.

    Yes it has solid axles, like all Wranglers, as well as lockers and alloy shafts. And the 4.0 is gone. Its tragic yes, but we're obviously never going to see it in a production vehicle again so we might as well stop bitching when Wrangler based concepts don't have it. #wrangler
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: It's tough to tell, but I think it's a solid front axle. I think. With any luck, we'll find out for certain, eventually. #wrangler
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    11/03/09

    @Steeze McQueen: You can see the pumpkin? I can't see crap, maybe my monitor's about to go toes-up. I mean, I can see it's there, but a silhouette is all I get.

    Where'd you get the info on the 5.7? I just read the blurb, didn't go around researching at all. Work and all that, you know.
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    Edited by Elhigh at 11/03/09 5:40 PM Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
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    11/03/09

    @Andrew Richard Chadwick Stevenson: I think what I need to do is go buy some crapped out '95 YJ and build it up the way I want. '95 chassis is the best, too bad it's still the square-eyes model. But whatevs.

    Get the 4.0, preferably from a somewhat later model year with less Stone Age EFI, jack it up just a smidge because I don't do any serious offroading - only slapstick offroading. I'm that kinda guy. Find a New Venture TC from a Rubi for the low-low 4.0:1 ratio, add a hardtop and AC because I hate the tent-in-a-hurricane noise and I'm getting old enough and wealthy enough to both need and afford AC. There are some things about which I don't give a shit for the environment, and AC is on that list. When August hits it's frickin hot and I want AC

    Nice CD stereo so I can listen to John Sandford murder mysteries while I'm getting stuck.

    Warn winch. Go with what you know.

    Hmm. Time to go wander around eBay. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: If you can't read at work, maybe you shouldn't comment at work. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @weatherman: Someone sounds bitter. #wrangler
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    11/03/09


    @Elhigh: I still love you. So much that I highlighted the pumpkin... after all, who doesn't want a green pumpkin? #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @Elhigh: well seriously, dude, don't go spouting off about stuff you haven't even bothered to read, then get all high-and mighty like you don't have the time because you have to work, and then cap it all off not even acknowledge the fact that you just got schooled on the ABCs of 4x4. That's just douchey. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @pj134: Boulder Naked Runners. Green against all that doughy high-altitude skin, yech. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark

    Not to nitpick or anything, but wouldn't it be 40" tires not 40" wheels? #wrangler
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    Image of P161911 probably shoudn't have P161911 probably shoudn't have
    11/03/09

    @pj134: that's what I came here to say, unless Jeep cleverly disguised their wheels as off-road tires.
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    11/03/09

    @P161911 probably shoudn't have: Alloy Baja Claws? :D #wrangler
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    Image of stevecmh stevecmh
    11/03/09

    In reply to Jeep Lower Forty Lurks In SEMA Dark
    sorry.. the wheels look redickulas.. just too big ... looks like a tiny tiny windshield too.. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    @stevecmh: It looks as if they did a 3" top chop on a CJ. #wrangler
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    $5-6 a gallon gas is on it's way back-the instant the economy begins an upswing that consumers can feel, we'll be right back where we were last summer. Oil briefly went past $80 a barrel a couple weeks ago and gas certainly isn't as cheap as it should be for the current economy.

    Don't the domestics think instead of reinforcing the idea in the avg. (read: uneducated) consumer's mind that ALL they build is trucks and hot rods (read: bad gas mileage) that perhaps it would be a good idea to try convincing people that they make something else?

    Raptors, ZR2s, high HP Camaros, etc......... seems roughly as bright as Dodge reintroducung a Hemi Challenger in 1973. #chevysilverado
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    Image of FrankGrimes FrankGrimes
    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    I think this thing looks fantastic. Like was said though. It won't be built. #chevysilverado
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    "There's more to this concept than meets the eye," said Dewar. "Some of the components are being explored for possible inclusion in upcoming models."

    Translation: 'We're STRONGLY looking into using the paint scheme & ZR2 decals... and the package may include the trail-run comforting contrasting seat stitching...' #chevysilverado
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    I'm a dyed in the wool Chevy guy, but if this is Chevy's answer to the Raptor, I might have to change my allegiance to the blue oval.

    It needs a real skid plate instead of a bumper meant to mimic one. And while we're talking bumpers, why does a show vehicle with no pretensions of street legality not incorporate a prerunner style tubular bumper?

    Exposed carbon fiber is played out. Paint the truck all one color.

    But not beige. Beige by any other name is just as beige. #chevysilverado
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    Like Iraq
    It's too little and too late
    Like Iraq
    The attempt is second rate
    oooohh
    oooh
    Like Iraq #chevysilverado
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Chevy Silverado ZR2 Concept: The 550 HP Raptor-Fighter That'll Never Happen
    The Raptor, Power Wagon and this would all be fun to beat the snot out of on logging roads, dunes or desert. These trucks seem to disregard a couple of realities, though...

    First, 'wheeling is hard on stuff. I don't know too many folks who are inclined to beat the tar out of a truck they just dropped 40 to 50 large on. Better to have an old Jeep and lots of junkyard replacement parts.

    Second, lightness (and smallness) counts for a lot on the trail, in the bog or climbing that hill. #chevysilverado
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/03/09

    @Alfisted: ...and as such, the most practical offroaders happen to be ancient Hiluxes and Samurais (sure, your 'mog, Pinz or C303 would be better, but a bit harder to live with). Full-size trucks don't fit in the woods, and anything that you wouldn't want to acquire a crinkle finish just ends up being a poseur-mobile.

    ...and as an aside, 300-500hp in this crop of fancy trucks doesn't do you a damn bit of good when finesse and good gear ratios count.

    For example, a coworker of mine has a Ram Mega Cab (that he does use for truck stuff, actually), but he knows he'd get high centered or done in by the insanely huge turning radius if he got too far off the beaten path (he hauls an ATV into the area where he hunts this time of year). It's just too damn big to be useful off-road, and he is well-aware of it. #chevysilverado
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    Image of RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
    11/03/09

    @Paul Y. don't drive too fast.:

    Building a baja style truck is not "cheap" no matter what you start with. Seems the pre-runner long travel suspension kits and Fox type shocks make these rigs quite a bit pricier than a lifted jeep for crawling.

    I guess I'm just saying for it's purpose the Raptor is pretty reasonably priced.

    If I were really wanting a pre-runner though, I'd start with a used truck (with character already) and add my own long travel kit, wheels, etc. I'd end up spending as much, but it'd be exactly what I wanted...and a Chevy. #chevysilverado
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/03/09

    @RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: That's a good point -- no matter how you slice it, it isn't cheap to mod a truck like that, and do it right.

    Of course, a prerunner type truck makes no sense in the climate I live in, either. As such, it's a bit alien to me, in a way. On the other hand, in these parts, there are plenty of guys who actually do creep around in the woods, where suspension travel, horsepower, and articulation (in the context of crawlers) aren't really as useful as plain ol' ground clearance and a short wheelbase. #chevysilverado
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