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    JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle

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    Image of ppiddy ppiddy
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    I'm pretty sure I should get to work on eating my hat.

    I can't remember specifically, but I highly doubt I've gone my entire life without saying I'd eat it the day Korea could build a car better than Japan.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment ppiddy was starred ppiddy was unstarred
    Image of SuperVette....Chevette SuperVette....Chevette
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    I saw one of these Genesis(es)('s)(-i) at a gas station, debadged and slammed. I had no clue what it was until he opened the door and I recoiled in horror at the site of the Hyundai badge on the wheel.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment SuperVette....Chevette was starred SuperVette....Chevette was unstarred
    Image of Al Navarro Al Navarro
    07/23/09

    @SuperVette....Chevette:
    Me thinks that's less a problem with the car and more of one with your seemingly parochial view of automobiles.
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    Image of Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    Ya know.. just recently.. it occured to me.. that J.D power really doesnt mean a damn thing.

    That was after I stopped bashing my head against the wall..

    Then again..
    Im just poed cause the 2010 Mazda3 hatch.. isnt even on the list.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face was starred Tossed Accord taco salad over Malibu face was unstarred
    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    "You want Genesis car? Is manufacturer forbidden! Quality is less. Frustration, more."

    "I don't care about that, my grammatically-challenged friend. Genesis car, yes! I'll cope with the frustration."

    I'd have to have the spirit of a frenemy stuck in my head before I'd buy Hyundai anything. Like GM and Chrysler are discovering now, the fruits of crappy workmanship yesterday are hundreds and hundreds of tomorrows where they will never sell me a car.
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    Image of MrSpyder MrSpyder
    07/22/09

    @Elhigh: A star trek 3 joke? That's why I love jalopnik!
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment MrSpyder was starred MrSpyder was unstarred
    Image of Maxx Cracker Maxx Cracker
    07/22/09

    @Elhigh:Wow, that reference to "Star Trek III" was impressive.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment Maxx Cracker was starred Maxx Cracker was unstarred
    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    I've been trying to get a 2.0T GT for a few weeks now... the dealer said one was coming in that I could test drive, but it was sold before I ever saw it. Now he's ordering one to my specs and reserving it for me - just for a test drive. I guess if I don't want it, they'll just put it on the lot and it'll be gone by sunset!
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    Image of maximum-sienna maximum-sienna
    07/22/09

    @fuchikoma:

    The 2.0T is the Coupe, which is a 2010 model. The 2009 Genesis is the sedan...
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    fuchikoma promoted this comment maximum-sienna was starred maximum-sienna was unstarred
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    07/22/09

    @maximum-sienna can't comment 9 out of 10 times:
    Wasn't sure, but I just assumed there was a 2009 Coupe since they said "Genesis" like it was one car... either way, the coupes seem to be flying off the lots too.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    Good on them, they have really chipped their way along to success. But it's also nice that Ford F150 is breathing right down their necks.
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    Image of shepherdfarmer shepherdfarmer
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    The 2009 F150 is crazy. It is light years ahead of the competition and managed to be so well-built for an introduction year. My mom has one while my uncle bought a new Ram (he drives Dodge HD). The Ram interior was nice, but overall the truck looked a little lackluster and is imo, overrated. It already had a couple problems. The F150 has been perfect. Not the prettiest thing on the road either, but it works much harder with more practical features other than "Ram Box" such as the "man steps" or the fold flat seating.

    The Genesis was no surprise to me. It is a very nice car from a typically budget vehicle company. Kia better take some notes.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment shepherdfarmer was starred shepherdfarmer was unstarred
    Image of Turboner Turboner
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    This "Vehicle Launch Index" sounds completely fabricated. No where in there does it tell you what it is really a measure of in objective terms.
     Reply
    Turboner was starred Turboner was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    This number's value = official unemployment rate number

    However, starting Monday, the unofficial unemployment number is less...by one.

    I tell the landlady I got a job
    I'm gonna pay the rent
    She said "Yeah?"
    I said "Oh yeah"
    And then she was so nice
    Lawd she was lovey-dovey

    So I go in my room, pack up my things and I go
    I slip on out the back door
    And down the streets I go
    She a-hollerin' about the front rent, she'll be lucky to get any back rent
    She ain't gonna get none of it
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    that ain't the way to have fun, son was starred that ain't the way to have fun, son was unstarred
    Image of Novaload Novaload
    07/22/09

    @can't find no job, that's why I ain't go no...: You gots a job, man? You don't have to be out of doors?
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    Novaload was starred Novaload was unstarred
    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    07/22/09

    @Novaload Misses Murilee:

    That's good, 'cause I don't have to ask...


    Can I stay witcha mebbe couple days?

    Uh, let me go an ask my wife...

    He come outta the house
    I could see his face
    I known it was no

    "Aw, man, I dunno...she kinda funny, y'know"

    I said, "I know...everybody funny,
    Now you funny too."



    Upside to being way-under-employed is after a short time, I should be comfy Jaloping from work.
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    I am glad to see the Tiguan up there. I'd hit it.
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    Tanshanomi was starred Tanshanomi was unstarred
    Image of engineerd engineerd
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    Above Average: Ford, Korea and the Japanese (with a token European and token Chrysler)

    Below Average: GM, Chrysler, Europe, a token Ford, and upscale Japanese.

    What sweeping generalizations can we make from this chart?

    People are idiots. How does the Vibe do so much better than the Matrix when THEY ARE THE SAME FREAKING CAR?
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    Image of Elhigh Elhigh
    07/22/09

    @engineerd misses Uncle Pete: A friend at work had the same experience. She turned in her Matrix, saying it was a complete POS, and turned around and got a Vibe. I tried to tell her, but damn if experience hasn't proven her right. What's up with that?
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    Elhigh was starred Elhigh was unstarred
    Image of Super Traction Engine Super Traction Engine
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    Hyundai, like Sunday.
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    FP - missing Pete and the SHOwagon promoted this comment Super Traction Engine was starred Super Traction Engine was unstarred
    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    07/22/09

    @Super Traction Engine: Hoon-dai, like Moon Pie.
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    07/22/09

    @FP - missing Pete and the SHOwagon:
    Hyeondae (Hyahn-deh) like 현대...

    But in the US...
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    fuchikoma was starred fuchikoma was unstarred
    Image of Saboth Saboth
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    I just bought a Hyundai Elantra Touring yesterday. I'd have laughed a year ago if you had told me to consider a Hyundai, but wow, they have come a long way. I'd easily put them up with Japanese rivals now. An extremely well made car that doesn't feel cheap, but is still thousands less than the competition.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment Saboth was starred Saboth was unstarred
    Image of Tyson Tyson
    07/22/09

    @Saboth: My fiancee has an 07 Elantra, it manages to be cheaper, nicer inside with more toys, and more fun to drive than the equivalent Corolla. They're obviously doing something right at Hyundai lately.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment Tyson was starred Tyson was unstarred
    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    The reason I will never own any of those cars is because my credit score is lower than that of the Matrix.
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    Jo Schmo was starred Jo Schmo was unstarred
    Image of Tyson Tyson
    07/22/09

    @Pete Gaines wuz here: Let me guess, PCH-caused bankruptcy got you down? Owe thousands in debt because that old junker just won't stop shredding water pumps? Just don't know what to do about the monthly payments anymore?

    We can help! Call the PCH help line today!
     Reply
    Al Navarro promoted this comment Tyson was starred Tyson was unstarred
    Image of d3c509b aka Steve d3c509b aka Steve
    07/22/09

    In reply to JD Power: Hyundai Genesis Highest-Ranked Newly-Launched Vehicle
    "The VLI examines various factors that are critical to the financial success of a launch, including turn rate, vehicle revenue, dealer gross profit, incentive spend, credit quality and residual value. In addition, VLI includes the key factors of vehicle quality and design, based on the J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study SM (IQS) and Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study."

    say what? since when is JD power measuring vehicle revenue, quality, residual value (in 8mo?), and credit quality all in one "index"?

    That is literally a number for the sake of making up a number, no consumer could possible hope to understand what all that means. I'm in the industry and I don't know what it means. I could just be an idiot though
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    Alphamazing promoted this comment d3c509b aka Steve was starred d3c509b aka Steve was unstarred
    Image of SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R)
    07/22/09

    @d3c509b aka Steve: I tried to figure out WTF they were talking about but I kept spacing out. This is definitely a number just so JD Power can seem relevant and keep selling useless ratings to marketers.
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was starred SlowMo (actually, there's no E on my R) was unstarred
    Image of d3c509b aka Steve d3c509b aka Steve
    07/22/09

    @SlowMo -fading into the background: exactly. JD power is getting more and more irrelevant as time goes by. They realize that people care more about consumer reports and they are scrambling
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    Image of seoultrain seoultrain
    07/22/09

    @d3c509b aka Steve: But, but, but they have fancy glass trophies! Does this mean I can't trust Motor Trend either?

    I'm gonna go call my Little League coach...
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    Al Navarro promoted this comment Edited by seoultrain at 07/22/09 2:38 PM seoultrain was starred seoultrain was unstarred
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