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RachelSklar
11/20/09

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Isn't a live rear axle kind of an Achilles heel for lesser-performance Mustangs?
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Wes Siler
11/20/09

@RachelSklar: It's one of those things that everyone talks about, but it doesn't manifest any physical limitations, it just adds character.
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RachelSklar
11/21/09

@Wes Siler: Oh. I was just saying words there, btw.
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not_a_virus.exe.vbs
11/20/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
Not to be morbid, but when 'ol Shelby goes to the great racetrack in the sky, what will happen to Shelby cars? I like the GT500 strictly for performance sake, I could care less about it being a collectible or worth money in the future. When you buy a car, your first priority should not be to make money down the line. I really doubt these cars will be worth so much in the future because of the name. The older cars, yes, not the newer ones.
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Earl_of_Gumout
11/19/09

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After driving a new Camaro as a rental, I need to go look at a Mustang. Theres hardly any headroom in a Camaro. It makes me feel, well, like I am ducking my head while driving. And this is from a Corvette owner. Maybe it's because I have a clear roof in the Corvette?
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Wes Siler
11/20/09

@Earl_of_Gumout: Nah, the Camaro's claustrophobic, try the 'stang, it's the better car.
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baldheadeddork
11/19/09

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Three stars for value because the $32K GT Track Pack is almost as much fun to drive? Okay, I really like that spec of the GT, too, and if it were mah own money that's the way I'd go.

But how could you ignore measuring the value of the Shelby in the other direction? Specifically, how does this $50K/540hp Shelby stack up value-wise against the $100K/620hp ZR1? Is it a three-star value in that light, too?
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Wes Siler
11/20/09

@baldheadeddork: Drawing a comparison between this and the best car ever made would no end well for the Shelby.
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baldheadeddork
11/20/09

@Wes Siler: Fair enough, but what about against the $75K Z06, which is closer in power (505 vs 540) and also shares the less-than-wonderful interior of the lesser models? Or dollar-for-dollar, the Shelby against a base Corvette?

I'm not bringing these up because I'm trying to stoke the Chevy-Ford flame wars, but this is an honest 500hp car with better handling than any Mustang should ever have, for less than $50K. If this is three stars, what the hell does someone have to do to get four?
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Wes Siler
11/20/09

@baldheadeddork: It is being compared against the Corvette.
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SerialThriller
11/19/09

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Regarding the non-telescoping wheel, my biggest complaint against Mustangs has always been the poor ergonomics for me. At 6'3" I have the same problem Wes described, that to get the seat positioned right I end up extending my arms to reach the steering wheel more than in other cars. And on that same note, I have to reach for the shifter rather than it being in a more natural location.
Not to ignite the whole Ford vs Chevy thing (seriously, I like Mustangs), but I never had a fitment problem in a Camaro.
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Carplanetzone1
11/19/09

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Wes, how old are you, that you still can't grow a five 'o clock shadow? ;D
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@Carplanetzone1: 28 :'(
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Carplanetzone1
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: Awh... it's okay buddy. There's always rogaine... dunno about applying it to your face though. ;D
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FrankGrimes
11/20/09

@Wes Siler: you are 28 and do this stuff for a living?

I am 27 in school and have done nothing for a living...something went wrong.
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Wes Siler
11/20/09

@FrankGrimes: Yes, but the deal with the devil was I had to choose: facial hair or cars...
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FrankGrimes
11/20/09

@Wes Siler: Can you put me in contact with Mr. Devil. I hate shaving.

#tips
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BigHarv
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
A car reviewer actually mentioning that you shouldn't use even a hand's free phone in a car? It's a bold new day.
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
11/19/09

@BigHarv: If it's anything like the last GT500, the noise in the cabin should be enough to convince you not to answer the phone.
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v250gto
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
so you turned the stability control off (you did right?), it handled like a pig, and then you turned it back on, and it was ok?

sounds perfectly sorted to me

kinda like an abs-pseudo-limited slip
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@v250gto: Of course, and I've driven the car on a track too. It's faster with stability on and traction off; you can use the power and it understeers less. With everything off you just end up understeering initially, then sliding all over the place. It's not uncontrollable, but it's not fast either.
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: Tell us more about your inseam!
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v250gto
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: Have computer controlled driving aids improved so dramatically in recent years, or are there now more cases in which they are used to as a cheap fix for dynamic shortcomings?
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@v250gto: The horsepower wars have kinda ruined cars in that we now have a plethora of vehicles that weigh 4,000lbs+ have super wide tires and wouldn't do anything but spin once the limits of that traction is broken. Hence the need for all these crazy stability control systems.

Cars are faster than ever, yet harder to drive on the limit than ever.
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Ford Tempo Fanatic
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
If it were priced relatively to the price of, say, a '68 GT500. I might be interested.
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tonyola
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500

I still don't like the grouper-mouth grille on the Shelby. Does it really need the massive front openings and the bulked-up hood? Also, any true Shelby Mustang (at least after '66) should have wide taillights.
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not_a_virus.exe.vbs
11/20/09

@tonyola: I love the grill on the Shelby, I wish the regular GT would get it as well.
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skaycog
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
Oooooh, aaaaah! If I can't have a Ford GT, I'll have this. Well, I can't have a Ford GT, and I can't have this. But I can dream.
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OA 5599
11/19/09

@skaycog.2000: It seems like a lot of Ford GT owners tend to buy these cars then total them before the first payment comes due.

It might be expensive to get insurance after this, though, so it's a stunt you might only be able to pull off once. But you could have loads of fun for 29 days...
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
11/19/09

@skaycog.2000: Why not dream of both? I do.
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skaycog
11/19/09

@OA 5599: Fun for 29 days....that sounds like a plan.
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skaycog
11/19/09

@FTGDWolverineEdition'09: You are something else. You have made my heart race two days in a row. Thank you!
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dal20402
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
What's your problem with MyColor? Sure, it's not an earth-shattering feature, but I've wanted to change the dash light coloring at least a bit on every car I've ever owned except my 2004 Acura TSX.
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@dal20402: just use white numbers on a black background and red lighting. Job done. Anything else is just added cost and complication that would be better spent elsewhere.
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The_Red_Monkey
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: Personally I do not prefer the red lighting.
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@The_Red_Monkey: Your nightvision does.
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dal20402
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: The red lighting is one of my few complaints about my current car. It looks angry and in-your-face at night. I'd rather have a nice neutral white or even light green, and I would have paid money for the ability to change it.

I've owned several cars with various shades of green backlighting and one with white backlighting and never had the slightest problem with my night vision while driving any of them.
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bmoreDLJ
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
Did you put it on a dyno? 'Cuz 500 sounds a bit...round.
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Wes Siler
11/19/09

@bmoreDLJ: 500's just the name, it makes 540 at the crank. Plenty of people have verified this, just ask google.
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Maymar
11/19/09

@bmoreDLJ: I don't think the numbers on the nameplate of a Shelby Mustang have ever referred to anything. Legend has it that when coming up with the name for the GT350, Shelby told someone to walk to some point and count the steps, and rounded from there (or something like that).
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mr_dude
11/19/09

@Maymar: Named a car based on steps walked? Irony is a cruel mistress.
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Maymar
11/19/09

@mr_dude: Well, it'd make a hell of a lot more sense if it were French, or British, or Italian.
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mr_dude
11/19/09

@Maymar: What's French, British, and Italian for 'osnap'?
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
11/19/09

@Wes Siler: I would guess Ford is pretty careful about hp claims after the debacle on the original SVT Cobra.
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Heavern2
11/19/09

@snapoversteer 'bout to get told: Can you please tell me about this debacle?
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snapoversteer 'bout to get told
11/20/09

@Heavern2: IIRC, Car and Driver found that one of their test cars wasn't producing the claimed output. I think there was a recall and some litigation.

#tips
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
Me want. I am sure the regular 2011 GT with track pack would be more than enough but I've always liked SVT products. Of course, it would be a big step up from my lil' SVTF I currently drive.
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mr_dude
11/19/09

In reply to 2010 Shelby GT500
That's right ladies, Wes needs STM to keep his rear end under control.
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