The styling, especially the last 50% of the car was always controversial. I knew folks who called it the Lotus Pickup Truck (Lotusamino?). It never bothered me. The car was a road burner, that's what was important to me. #lotuseuropa
I actually worked for a Lotus dealership in Iowa back in the early 70s. My boss took me for a ride in a new Lotus Europa Twin Cam and I was amazed. He drove down a residential street at 50 mph, made a 90 degree turn without slowing or squeeling the tires. Like nothing. A superior machine. I just wouldn't want to crash in one. #lotuseuropa
Yes, wonderful. My '71 Renault-powered version also sported a world championship badge. I miss that car a lot, and it very rarely gave me trouble. Not really a 'usable' car by any means, but delightful just the same. Driving it in Orlando traffic was good practice for getting back into scooters later in life. They couldn't see me then, and they can't see me now. #lotuseuropa
C'mon everyone, you knew I was gonna chime in on this, seeing as that it was about a Lotus Europa, didn't ya! ;-)
This is a very nice Europa. As said by someone else, this is one of the later models, which had the sail panels and the floorpans lowered at the behest of customers complaining about poor visibility and no headroom. They improved the headroom issue to some extent, but not much was done for the visibility. The constructor's championship badge was on all twincam Europas to the best of my knowledge, it's definitely on this one as well as my 1973 Twin Cam Special. The wheels are optional Brand Lotus alloys, Europas came with steel disc wheels and hubcaps as standard equipment. Either this is a pampered original, or it's a good restoration. The latter seems more likely due to the recent license plate. #lotuseuropa
Lovely. just lovely, I have a soft spot for these Europas, used to love seeing a dark blue one in Brooklyn Heights when I was a kid.
Saw this Anglophile being cleaned at the only self wash/car wash in Brooklyn NY. You should have heard the sound of those exhaust pipes when he peeled out of there. I was smiling for the entire day.
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This is one of the later Europas with the cut-down rear sail panels and the twincam Lotus/Ford engine. Haven't seen one on the street in ages. #lotuseuropa
If I had it my way... with a 13B Turbo II rotary engine powering it.
It would be dangerous, utterly torque-free and ridiculously ugly and fun.
The Europa is an ugly thing, but it's ugly in an endearing way, which is what will prompt you to waste money on it time and again. It's endearing in the same way as a Volvo 240, but unlike the 240 which will be as loyal to you as a golden retriever (and play every part the family pet), the Europa will be that puppy that incessantly shits on the fucking carpet, no matter how many times you teach him otherwise. But you love the little bastard anyways.
The Elite might run--its ass looks like a Gremlin and a Pinto had a love child. $500--take it to Lemons and Murilee might not just go out with you, but might actually agree to go steady with you. Date bait.
But the Europa is the real monster here. It doesn't run but "have all the body parts"--explain again how that makes it run? Or is that supposed to distract me from the rest of the horror? I see those body parts, mister, they're pinned and tacked and glued onto it.
The Renault engine probably blew many ks of miles ago. Who knows what's in there. And does it really matter? Because the effer ain't running.
Since I don't have (or want to have) any experience with British cars, and would just be replacing everything under the skin with a mix of Plymouth Valiant / Volvo 240 parts anyways, it comes down to styling- and the Europa is just too goofy even for me. But just look at the beautifully wonky lines of that Elite! Maybe even better than our version..
@Serious Mopar Jones- Incurable: I knew 3 people who had Elites in 3 different states, and all 3 came to very bad, early demises. About seven miles per gallon and standard (recalled) Firestone 500s, if I recall.
@Novaload Misses Murilee: I think everything remotely related has died, excluding some Lincolns. There's at least three Malaise Thunderbirds around town, and they're all '77-'79; the earlier ones were too fat and the later ones too shit.
@Tossed Accordtaco salad over Malibu: Agreed. Ever since the first time I saw an Esprit, every other Lotus has been meh. "Nice enough, I guess, but it's not an Esprit."
"Thing is, these newfangled Elises and whatnot seem to be contaminated by engines built by Ssangyong or Sony or some such place where all the focus is on reliability...."
Lotus Elise / Exige: Toyota ZZ engine
Lotus Evora: Toyota 2GR-FE
I can't speak for Ssangyong, but Sony (outside of their product lines designed for professional markets) isn't known so much for their quality and reliability anymore (outside of the PS3 being more reliable than the XBox 360, but that speaks more of the 360's legendarily [in the true sense of the word] high failure rate).
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This is a very nice Europa. As said by someone else, this is one of the later models, which had the sail panels and the floorpans lowered at the behest of customers complaining about poor visibility and no headroom. They improved the headroom issue to some extent, but not much was done for the visibility. The constructor's championship badge was on all twincam Europas to the best of my knowledge, it's definitely on this one as well as my 1973 Twin Cam Special. The wheels are optional Brand Lotus alloys, Europas came with steel disc wheels and hubcaps as standard equipment. Either this is a pampered original, or it's a good restoration. The latter seems more likely due to the recent license plate. #lotuseuropa
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Lovely. just lovely, I have a soft spot for these Europas, used to love seeing a dark blue one in Brooklyn Heights when I was a kid.
Saw this Anglophile being cleaned at the only self wash/car wash in Brooklyn NY. You should have heard the sound of those exhaust pipes when he peeled out of there. I was smiling for the entire day.
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It's like this one I saw, which commemorated Lotus's 1972 F1 Constructor's Championship. #lotuseuropa
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If I had it my way... with a 13B Turbo II rotary engine powering it.
It would be dangerous, utterly torque-free and ridiculously ugly and fun.
The Europa is an ugly thing, but it's ugly in an endearing way, which is what will prompt you to waste money on it time and again. It's endearing in the same way as a Volvo 240, but unlike the 240 which will be as loyal to you as a golden retriever (and play every part the family pet), the Europa will be that puppy that incessantly shits on the fucking carpet, no matter how many times you teach him otherwise. But you love the little bastard anyways.
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But the Europa is the real monster here. It doesn't run but "have all the body parts"--explain again how that makes it run? Or is that supposed to distract me from the rest of the horror? I see those body parts, mister, they're pinned and tacked and glued onto it.
The Renault engine probably blew many ks of miles ago. Who knows what's in there. And does it really matter? Because the effer ain't running.
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That being said, who the hell did they hire to design the ass end of their cars in the late 60's and early 70's?
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that's one vehicle you almost never see.
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I need to be.. Lotus Elite schooled...
I thought the Europa was that new fangled vehicle Lotus has been pushing for the past coupla years as the current remedy for the VENERABLE ESPIRIT.
Isnt' there some lonely Esprit from about 80... that we can work with.. instead of these heaps?
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Lotus Elise / Exige: Toyota ZZ engine
Lotus Evora: Toyota 2GR-FE
I can't speak for Ssangyong, but Sony (outside of their product lines designed for professional markets) isn't known so much for their quality and reliability anymore (outside of the PS3 being more reliable than the XBox 360, but that speaks more of the 360's legendarily [in the true sense of the word] high failure rate).
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