PJ O'Rourke once wrote in Car and Driver that old Darts and Valiants were cars that refused to die, no matter how badly their owners wanted them to. Anyone who thinks that Chrysler has always made nothing but junk should be shown this car. As usual, it looks like Alameda has woven its magic spell and kept this car mostly rust-free. Coastal Florida is far less kind. As for styling, not bad for the era, though I prefer the split grille of the '70 and '71 models.
@tonyola: The 1972 grille did have a rather cheap plastic look, and the 1973+ had the unwieldy 5 mph bumpers. So, yeah, the 1970-71s were better. I'm partial to the 1968-69 because the styling is more original (and the detailing a bit cleaner than the 1967).
The rear of the 1970+ was given a swept-up-and-forward back end that -- like so many other cars of that era -- copied the original Mustang. At least the Dart's new front and rear matched the swept-forward arc of its wheel cutouts.
There's two reasons it wouldn't be parked there in New Hampshire, and only one is rust - that there is a stop sign, and those have hydrantlike levels of protection here.
Gotta love the patina, the wrinkles, and that it still shines through despite 'em. Honest and classy, and just as indestructible as my 240. I salute it.
I remember when there were a gazillion of these Dratted Darts out there. Other than rust, what else could kill one? Built Ford tough by Chrysler...LOL! Slant-6 or 318 B-block with a Torqueflite, they were unstoppable.
My dad was considering buying a 1972 Dart sedan. I made fun of the Dart brochure's picture of the sedan, which also included a nerdy, middle-aged couple frolicking in the grass. Shortly thereafter my dad bought a Mercury Montego MX Brougham instead.
I wish he had bought the Dart -- it would have been a much better car even though it was rather plain.
What a classic flashback! That color was everywhere. In fact, on CL the other day I found one of these, slightly younger, as a Swinger with a stripe across the ass. I was tempted. Such a clean, nice design. I've always loved these fine little MoPars!
Nothing like a sensible small car with a vinyl roof. Aside from that wrinkly fender, this seems to have come through pretty well. I might have to prefer the pickup, though.
I give thanks for Murilee weekends at Jalopnik. I give thanks for '60s and '70s Mopars that still ply the roads of America. I give thanks to the almighty Slant Six, that amazing engine that humbled itself to do service in everything from Dart convertibles to Fury wagons to pick up trucks to vans. I give thanks for pea green metallic paint, pea green brocade interiors, and pea green vinyl roofs. I give thanks for concave rear window glass and I give thanks for column shifted automatics. I give thanks for full size wheel covers and 14" steel wheels. I give thanks for 4-door sedans that are more stylish and utilitarian, all at the same time, than any modern car.
I guess I have a lot to be thankful for, this Thanksgiving!
@Novaload: Cheers, old chum! Holiday cheer to you and all the Jalopnik weekend regulars, as well as the newbs who will soon enough realize the greatness of this special time of the week.
Nice. I saw a rusty Plymouth Voyager on the road the other day. No, not the Caravan clone, the B-series Dodge van clone from the '70s. And in New Jersey, no less.
@Novaload: 1993-1994 Econoline due to orange turn signals and I think retrofits are pretty difficult if not impossible.
Probably a 90s Econoline due to Club Wagon badging and when was the last time Ford sold Bi-colored Econolines?
@MushyHeirloom: I work in Richmond, VA--this was like a block from the hospital and could have been visiting there. Oh, damn--is there an all point bulletin on this thing? Did I walk right by a reward? That would be just typical for me.
Well, I have a close cousin to this van, and its a 1983 model. It will be undergoing a cosmetic restoration this summer, and I plan on doing a series of posts about it.
@interstatement: I'm actually in East Hartford. Email me at akaudman under gmail dot com. Notice how I did that because I don't need any more spam in my in box.
@UDMan: I may be nuts, but I like the inside--that's so much better than those generic, ghastly upholstery and color patterns. Excellent price you paid as well. I'm jealous!
i have very little van experience... parents always wanted more leg room than a van would provide... we had station wagons and suburbans... but i don't think anything can beat the middle/rear seat leg room (not to mention head room) of some family friend's van(s).... (i'm 6'4" now... captains chairs in the parent's new yukon xl denali are at the limit of comfortable space...)
okay, i lie... i forgot about all my time spent in church vans driving from indianapolis to where-ever... i was trying to forget those.. 15 passenger vans with 20 kids and 4 days worth of luggage each... crazy parent drivers passing rush hour traffic in kentucky at 85 on the shoulder... oh.. god... ***curls in to fetal position.....***
I regularly drove a number of late '70s/'80s Chevy and GMC work vans as part of my job (including a few cross-USA journeys), and I have no particular love for them. The quality was pretty poor - windows falling down into doors, malfunctioning sliding doors, poor finish, mechanical problems, and an overall air of cheapness and crudity. The Ford vans of the era were better finished and felt much more solid.
@tonyola: Interestingly, I rather like the older GM vans, but I've never driven any of their competitors, so I suppose I don't know what I'm missing in a full-size van.
...but I do know that I'd commit war crimes for a manual transmission/slant-6 Dodge (they exist, but are likely rarer than hens' teeth). That would be ripe for a junkyard turbo AND a waterbed.
@Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: I have a brother in law that once owned a short wheelbase Dodge "Prospector" full size van, with the manual overdrive, and the slant six engine. It was silver, with the usual Chrysler Corporate Wheeldiscs (Same ones that went on a LeBaron, Diplomat, etc) but he got rid of it at about 30,000 miles, for a HYUNDAI EXCEL! The Clutch mechanism broke, and after it was repaired, he didn't trust it again.
If that car was even marginally less horrid, Hyundai would have stopped being a punchline 5 or 10 years sooner.
...granted, not that Malaise-era Detroit engineering was better; I mostly just think that everyone was accustomed to crap-ass cars, unless they were open-minded enough to drive a damn ferrin' car.
@Paul Y. don't drive too fast.: Dodge quality in the '70s was at least as patchy as the Chevy. A somewhat heavyset best friend had a '75 shortie panel with 318 and Torqueflite. The drivetrain was robust enough but the body hardware was awful - including a driver's seat support collapsing after a year. Another friend bought a new '79 Dodge panel - you could see daylight shining through several gaps in the side panel/roof weld.
@tonyola: Maybe it's just me, but you gotta admit though there's something cool, if not practical whatsoever, about being able to buy a '96 van with the same crappy quality control, engine choices, and interior as a vehicle built in 1971. Here's a nice '95... amazing. Now, if only Chevy made 70-2 Chevelles for 25 years unaltered...
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter what year it is. That's the great thing about Amazons, they aren't meant to be preserved, restored, pampered, etc. They're meant to be driven. You fix them when they break, you spiff them when you want it to look better. Beyond that, you simply enjoy. Dad's owned our's for 26 years. It recently got lowered, and had sway bars added. Man is it fun to drive. Don't worry. Enjoy.
If it helps, though, mine's a '67 and did not originally have headrests, so it may be a US/Non US spec thing.
@AustinMiniMan: Exactly. These cars will last forever- I would be there's more Amazons still prying the world's roadways than there are 850's, built 20 years later!
@mechimike: Thinking about it, that's probably true. Interesting. We used to have an 850 though; not a bad car. Shame it wasn't the T5 Wagon. I still want my 940 302-motivated Wagon with a T-5 though. One day, one day.
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PJ O'Rourke once wrote in Car and Driver that old Darts and Valiants were cars that refused to die, no matter how badly their owners wanted them to. Anyone who thinks that Chrysler has always made nothing but junk should be shown this car. As usual, it looks like Alameda has woven its magic spell and kept this car mostly rust-free. Coastal Florida is far less kind. As for styling, not bad for the era, though I prefer the split grille of the '70 and '71 models.
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The rear of the 1970+ was given a swept-up-and-forward back end that -- like so many other cars of that era -- copied the original Mustang. At least the Dart's new front and rear matched the swept-forward arc of its wheel cutouts.
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Gotta love the patina, the wrinkles, and that it still shines through despite 'em. Honest and classy, and just as indestructible as my 240. I salute it.
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AAA+++ Find Murilee!!!
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I wish he had bought the Dart -- it would have been a much better car even though it was rather plain.
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Come to think of it, Ford had one that was close to it, and my '69 Sedan DeVille was the GM version of this color, as well.
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I can't save them all, but I sure can go broke trying!
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I guess I have a lot to be thankful for, this Thanksgiving!
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For once, I might be able to beat a Murilee find. I shot this walking to the office:
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Probably a 90s Econoline due to Club Wagon badging and when was the last time Ford sold Bi-colored Econolines?
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Well, I have a close cousin to this van, and its a 1983 model. It will be undergoing a cosmetic restoration this summer, and I plan on doing a series of posts about it.
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okay, i lie... i forgot about all my time spent in church vans driving from indianapolis to where-ever... i was trying to forget those.. 15 passenger vans with 20 kids and 4 days worth of luggage each... crazy parent drivers passing rush hour traffic in kentucky at 85 on the shoulder... oh.. god... ***curls in to fetal position.....***
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...but I do know that I'd commit war crimes for a manual transmission/slant-6 Dodge (they exist, but are likely rarer than hens' teeth). That would be ripe for a junkyard turbo AND a waterbed.
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If that car was even marginally less horrid, Hyundai would have stopped being a punchline 5 or 10 years sooner.
...granted, not that Malaise-era Detroit engineering was better; I mostly just think that everyone was accustomed to crap-ass cars, unless they were open-minded enough to drive a damn ferrin' car.
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@UDMan: ....and he hasn't done that adorable little dance since.
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@tonyola: Maybe it's just me, but you gotta admit though there's something cool, if not practical whatsoever, about being able to buy a '96 van with the same crappy quality control, engine choices, and interior as a vehicle built in 1971. Here's a nice '95... amazing. Now, if only Chevy made 70-2 Chevelles for 25 years unaltered...
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@eggwich del fiero: No this is perfect
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You're missing the point. It doesn't matter what year it is. That's the great thing about Amazons, they aren't meant to be preserved, restored, pampered, etc. They're meant to be driven. You fix them when they break, you spiff them when you want it to look better. Beyond that, you simply enjoy. Dad's owned our's for 26 years. It recently got lowered, and had sway bars added. Man is it fun to drive. Don't worry. Enjoy.
If it helps, though, mine's a '67 and did not originally have headrests, so it may be a US/Non US spec thing.
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