With all these engines blowing up I can't believe that Zmax and WatterWetter don't sponsor this thing. It's a freaking torture test for crappy cars and they don't go for simple things like an oversized radiator or hub caps cut in a fan shape to blow air onto the brakes. Cost for that is zero with a power tool.
Even an air hose going into the carb that is smooth from an HVAC place to smooth the air flow over the traditional accordion design would be a big improvement over stock and cheap as hell. It just takes an air hose with the same interior dimensions to pick up 10lft lbs of torque over stock.
Why K&N doesn't sponsor this is beyond me. I've used them in all my vehicles because the bang for the buck is amazing for the power you get.
If you're running a V6, go to a junkyard and get a cheap, huge V8 radiator that will fit and and oil cooler from a junked Camaro. I just get so freaked out when cars for this aren't built to handle the abuse and heat.
@Avastmateys: Most LeMons cars have oversized radiators and many of them have extra oil coolers. Damn near every automatic-equipped car has extra transmission fluid coolers. Brake cooling ducting is common. K&N filters and cold-air induction systems also common.
Cars don't die at LeMons because they're inadequately prepared (well, many do, but definitely not the majority). They die because road racing for a this long on a challenging track beats the living shit out of cars.
Come to a race and you'll see that every one of your ideas (and much more) is already being used. Also, WaterWetter and related products are against the rules- water only in the cooling systems, so as not to dump slippery stuff on the track.
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@Schweppes - Now with more school work: Wow, that is actually sort of awesome, and I will wake up for work tomorrow with that in my head, at which point I will decide that it is less awesome.
I'm surprised anyone gets anything done all weekend what with all the tomfoolery and silliness that goes on at these affairs. I'd be cracking up so hard I'd be spilling my beer all over the place.
And, they drive real fast in shitty cars. What could be more sublimely perfect?
Inspired choice on the song there. I think it would be an excellent choice to play over any racetrack PA system whenever a car sheds it's motor all over the cicuit. At a LeMons event, that would mean hearing it a lot. OK, so maybe not a good idea there.
But at an F1 race, I think L'Trimm espousing their love of cars that go boom as Robert Kubica grenaded yet another expensive BMW lump would've been appropriately hilarious...
@Super Traction Engine: A custom van shouldn't be a problem. At Nelson Ledges this year, there was a van racing (when it wasn't in the pits). Although it might have earned an exemption due to its caminoization.
Either the van or the truck might push the envelope on the 4200lb GVW limit, but as long as it squeaks under, you'll be fine. Otherwise, get an exemption before you spend the time and money prepping it for race duty.
I love:
1) How the competitors at Lemons gladly participate in and abet their own punishments;
2) The power source for the boom box--just hilarious;
3) Ms. Murilee's robe hanging out the door of the Crown Vic;
4) People who can dance on a moving vehicle!
I was driving that Porsche 914 in the German Car Parade of Shame. The Parade of Shame itself wasn't terribly bad (not even the music, which was mostly drowned out by the sweet song of a 36-year-old Type IV motor) but it was conducted at walking speed-- perfect for the idling Crown Vic, and significantly below idle in first gear for me.
@eggwich del fiero: They had a matching blue RX-7 with "Kens" in mullet wigs and blue jackets with similar slogans. I wanted to get photos of those guys, but it was just too hectic at the race.
I vote Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda Da-Vita, on a loop, natch, as a penalty.
17 minutes of, well, 1968 Iron Butterfly. That'll snap anyone into shape, if the reward is turning it off...unless they're operating a motor vehicle under while under the influence of something they shouldn't be.
I made it through the first 7 minutes on the way home week-before-last.
I like extended-dance-mixes, but this was a bit much.
/goes to find Information Society's 'Pure Energy' album
@that ain't the way to have fun, son: Nah, man, you have to get into the flow of it--proof is, after not having heard it for a couple of decades, at least--it was playing at a party and I remembered every nuance, every grunt--far out, man!
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@that ain't the way to have fun, son: Yeah, if you don't settle down and get into it, it's the most annoying background racket ever!
And yes, you must put on your green sweater, as we say, to appreciate it.
Well, the way society is going, the prisons should eventually be locked up with enough true criminals (white collar people, I'm glaring at you) to effectively legalize cannabis, which I've always advocated, even though I'd not tried it until I was in my mid-30's.
It is a much better pain killer/sleeping aid than any of a dozen prescription medications I'd been on, and was not only helpful, but it didn't leave me with a chemical 'hangover'. I truly didn't want any 'high', I just wanted to hurt less and have a decent night's sleep.
Win.
It's not legal because the gubment hasn't yet figured out how to make money on it. Tobacco is hard to grow, relatively-speaking, and bathtub booze...well...there's a quality issue.
Mary Jane grows on all but one continent, naturally, so of course, it's bad.
Actually, I'm all for legalization of most anything barring murder, rape, child abuse, robbery, y'know, the truly bad shit. Everything else (heroin, prostitution, other stuff which is frowned upon pretty much everywhere) will shake itself out, though it may be a few, um, interesting years. More like several months, probably.
What's funny is, my wife bought the album, new, and still has it.
Information Society videos are likely the reason for the Satellite reference. I had to disable Flash 'cause it crashes Chrome on this machine, so I'll look at vids tomorrow, at work.
There is an 'upside' to being underemployed. You're taxed so little, there is plenty of Jalop-time.
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Even an air hose going into the carb that is smooth from an HVAC place to smooth the air flow over the traditional accordion design would be a big improvement over stock and cheap as hell. It just takes an air hose with the same interior dimensions to pick up 10lft lbs of torque over stock.
Why K&N doesn't sponsor this is beyond me. I've used them in all my vehicles because the bang for the buck is amazing for the power you get.
If you're running a V6, go to a junkyard and get a cheap, huge V8 radiator that will fit and and oil cooler from a junked Camaro. I just get so freaked out when cars for this aren't built to handle the abuse and heat.
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Cars don't die at LeMons because they're inadequately prepared (well, many do, but definitely not the majority). They die because road racing for a this long on a challenging track beats the living shit out of cars.
Come to a race and you'll see that every one of your ideas (and much more) is already being used. Also, WaterWetter and related products are against the rules- water only in the cooling systems, so as not to dump slippery stuff on the track.
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This mash up also seems Jalopnik/ Lemons appropriate: [www.youtube.com]
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And, they drive real fast in shitty cars. What could be more sublimely perfect?
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But at an F1 race, I think L'Trimm espousing their love of cars that go boom as Robert Kubica grenaded yet another expensive BMW lump would've been appropriately hilarious...
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These are pure win.
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Either the van or the truck might push the envelope on the 4200lb GVW limit, but as long as it squeaks under, you'll be fine. Otherwise, get an exemption before you spend the time and money prepping it for race duty.
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1) How the competitors at Lemons gladly participate in and abet their own punishments;
2) The power source for the boom box--just hilarious;
3) Ms. Murilee's robe hanging out the door of the Crown Vic;
4) People who can dance on a moving vehicle!
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Wow, a Dodge Stratus piloted by a Canadian (South Park style).
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That's enough Terrence & Phillip....
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Classic.
South Park, I found, was disturbingly accurate as a documentary-type thing on the Jefferson/Park county area.
Still funny-as-hell, though.
/living at 9K feet messes with, well, everything
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(The Pink Ladies still win in my book. A female LeMons team? Amazing.)
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17 minutes of, well, 1968 Iron Butterfly. That'll snap anyone into shape, if the reward is turning it off...unless they're operating a motor vehicle under while under the influence of something they shouldn't be.
I made it through the first 7 minutes on the way home week-before-last.
I like extended-dance-mixes, but this was a bit much.
/goes to find Information Society's 'Pure Energy' album
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I'll have to attempt it, again. Sounds like something which would be significantly enhanced by doobage.
Damned job hunting...always fuckin' up my doobage budget/running the risk of drug testing BS.
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I like that song, so it would be enjoyable for me.
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And yes, you must put on your green sweater, as we say, to appreciate it.
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Well, the way society is going, the prisons should eventually be locked up with enough true criminals (white collar people, I'm glaring at you) to effectively legalize cannabis, which I've always advocated, even though I'd not tried it until I was in my mid-30's.
It is a much better pain killer/sleeping aid than any of a dozen prescription medications I'd been on, and was not only helpful, but it didn't leave me with a chemical 'hangover'. I truly didn't want any 'high', I just wanted to hurt less and have a decent night's sleep.
Win.
It's not legal because the gubment hasn't yet figured out how to make money on it. Tobacco is hard to grow, relatively-speaking, and bathtub booze...well...there's a quality issue.
Mary Jane grows on all but one continent, naturally, so of course, it's bad.
Actually, I'm all for legalization of most anything barring murder, rape, child abuse, robbery, y'know, the truly bad shit. Everything else (heroin, prostitution, other stuff which is frowned upon pretty much everywhere) will shake itself out, though it may be a few, um, interesting years. More like several months, probably.
@Murilee Martin:
Murilee...interpretive dance?
I like it.
What's funny is, my wife bought the album, new, and still has it.
Information Society videos are likely the reason for the Satellite reference. I had to disable Flash 'cause it crashes Chrome on this machine, so I'll look at vids tomorrow, at work.
There is an 'upside' to being underemployed. You're taxed so little, there is plenty of Jalop-time.
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Ah, I'd forgotten. The Hack album cover.
Good times.