I'll grant you that this significantly changes the stated ambition and direction of Chrysler's EV program, but it reads more like a merger of the two company's EV programs, rather than the death of the Chrysler EV program.
"Lou Rhodes, who was in charge of ENVI, continues to oversee electrical vehicle development for both companies." #chryslerenvi
Desperation can breed good ideas. This Circuit, with the exception of the decidedly old-school red Viper taillights, is the best looking Dodge I've seen in a long time. #chryslerenvi
you've got to be kidding me, wes... first i lose all that money on my pre-ordered tesla... and now on this too?? i guess it's time to move the money tree to a larger pot... see if it'll grow a bit bigger.. #chryslerenvi
Someone elses chassis + someone elses powertrain + Chrysler badges = How the hell would this have been profitable? There was no innovation here. It was cobbled together with existing technology that anyone could put together (and Tesla did it already). At the time it came out I was thinking it must be something to impress Congress to get the bail-out money. Now, I'm positive. #chryslerenvi
Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.
This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
Well remember Chrysler had/has no car that gets better than 30 mpg highway, so with Fiat's new engines here in 2 years it should help fleet mileage as much as a low volume battery electric. There will still be a hybrid Ram 1500 next year though. #chryslerenvi
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@BaconSandwich: exactly. For some reason some folks seem to have this idea that Jeeps are all about trashing the environment and crushing bunnies underfoot. But the outdoorsy people (the ones who actually camp, hike, fish and hunt) are actually the ones who care more about the quiet enjoyment of the environment than the ones who just want to look like they offroad. Jeep could do a lot to prevent an image failure like Hummer had by embracing (or returning to) the outdoorsman market. And if they can do it with a high-torque electric that would actually be more capable offroad, all the better.
@danio3834 & makopolo: if you'd read about the program, you'd know that the Jeep was a gas/electric hyrbid with a (supposed) range of 400 miles on an 8 gallon tank, which is enough to travel the entire length of the Sierra Nevada range.
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I really don't think electric is going to be viable for vehicles that are in service for eight hours or more per day for 5 or 6 days a week. Especially if said vehicles are air-conditioned (as these probably will be). I can see the mail carrier leaving the air on while he does the walking part of his rounds, and the charge lasting half the day or less. Unless there's some protable quick-charging technology that can come out to the dead van and charge it in less than an hour, i see a clusterfuck on the horizon.
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@Ash65 will work for a Preview Button!: Good thinking. Though of the 6 or 8 places I've lived (that I can remember), I've never had a walking mail carrier. I wonder how many of them are left as a proportion of the total. In other words, there's still plenty of market for 100% vehicle delivery.
@Ash78: Any place where the mailboxes are on the house (most urban neighborhoods) will have walking service. At least they do in my neck of the universe.
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My postal carrier drives a Ford Windstar, and my newspaper delivery guy (guy? gal? who can tell, it's dark then) drives a Mercury Villager. I guess we're all about the minivans for our home delivery out here. This being electric would lessen the drama of going postal I suppose.
@Graverobber: The current newspaper delivery lady has an ancient Gutless Ciera, and the mailman doesn't drive anything, because the post office is within rock-throwing distance of my house.
First you people all demand this stuff. Then the auto companies you chastise finally deliver it and you either bitch about it before even giving it a chance or say nothing. That's what makes this "green" movement such a joke. People finally get what they've been whining for and when it comes time to pony up for it that won't.
-Fuel efficient -Reliable -Cheap
Pick two. Until you come to terms with that, piss off.
Good work Chrysler, I can see you're trying to follow government orders despite this being a complete waste of resources.
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Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.
This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
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First you people all demand this stuff. Then the auto companies you chastise finally deliver it and you either bitch about it before even giving it a chance or say nothing. That's what makes this "green" movement such a joke. People finally get what they've been whining for and when it comes time to pony up for it that won't.
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Pick two. Until you come to terms with that, piss off.
Good work Chrysler, I can see you're trying to follow government orders despite this being a complete waste of resources.
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ok - i pick Reliable and Cheap! but not Fuel-efficient.
what do i get?
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Toyota? Mazda?
why do I have to pick two when some are covering all three?
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The Focus is all three, but it's uglier than a bag of smashed assholes.
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