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    Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One

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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    I'll grant you that this significantly changes the stated ambition and direction of Chrysler's EV program, but it reads more like a merger of the two company's EV programs, rather than the death of the Chrysler EV program.

    "Lou Rhodes, who was in charge of ENVI, continues to oversee electrical vehicle development for both companies." #chryslerenvi
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    Desperation can breed good ideas. This Circuit, with the exception of the decidedly old-school red Viper taillights, is the best looking Dodge I've seen in a long time. #chryslerenvi
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    you've got to be kidding me, wes... first i lose all that money on my pre-ordered tesla... and now on this too?? i guess it's time to move the money tree to a larger pot... see if it'll grow a bit bigger.. #chryslerenvi
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    Image of YankBoffin YankBoffin
    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    Someone elses chassis + someone elses powertrain + Chrysler badges = How the hell would this have been profitable? There was no innovation here. It was cobbled together with existing technology that anyone could put together (and Tesla did it already). At the time it came out I was thinking it must be something to impress Congress to get the bail-out money. Now, I'm positive. #chryslerenvi
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    Image of zacarious zacarious
    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    Company is a joke - may I make an analogy.

    Its like they are running a bakery with an easy bake oven. And the light bulb inside keeps burning out. And truth be told, even when the oven is working at its best and the bulb stays on -- whatever you bake in it is going to suck -- because its not a real oven. Its a piece of plastic shit with a dim light bulb.

    This is not a real car company. What's the last mainstream platform they developed? The K car? Half-baked cars built with very dim light bulbs. #chryslerenvi
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    Image of Rabbi Dave Rabbi Dave
    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    Well remember Chrysler had/has no car that gets better than 30 mpg highway, so with Fiat's new engines here in 2 years it should help fleet mileage as much as a low volume battery electric. There will still be a hybrid Ram 1500 next year though. #chryslerenvi
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    11/10/09

    In reply to Chrysler Kills ENVI Electric Car Program, Shocks No One
    That's too bad because I really thought that the Jeep EV was a great idea that might actually have a market. #chryslerenvi
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    Image of makopolo makopolo
    11/10/09

    @weatherman: I really hope you are kidding.... #chryslerenvi
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    Image of BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom BaconSandwich and the generic grey civic of doom
    11/10/09

    @makopolo: Why? Lots of torque in a very quiet package? Sounds pretty good to me. #chryslerenvi
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    11/10/09

    @BaconSandwich: exactly. For some reason some folks seem to have this idea that Jeeps are all about trashing the environment and crushing bunnies underfoot. But the outdoorsy people (the ones who actually camp, hike, fish and hunt) are actually the ones who care more about the quiet enjoyment of the environment than the ones who just want to look like they offroad. Jeep could do a lot to prevent an image failure like Hummer had by embracing (or returning to) the outdoorsman market. And if they can do it with a high-torque electric that would actually be more capable offroad, all the better.
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    Image of danio3834 danio3834
    11/10/09

    @weatherman: Right, but while you're doing all that in your electric Jeep, where do you plug it in? A cactus? #chryslerenvi
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    Image of makopolo makopolo
    11/10/09

    @weatherman: sounds great, but where do I charge it when I go on that 400 mile trip to the wilderness? #chryslerenvi
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    11/10/09

    @danio3834 & makopolo: if you'd read about the program, you'd know that the Jeep was a gas/electric hyrbid with a (supposed) range of 400 miles on an 8 gallon tank, which is enough to travel the entire length of the Sierra Nevada range.
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    Image of zeet zeet
    11/10/09

    @weatherman: .. and if that still isn't enough, would it really be a Jeep without a Jerry can strapped to the back? #chryslerenvi
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    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    Station wagons.
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    Image of SmaartAasSaabr SmaartAasSaabr
    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    why does it need alloy wheels, seriously
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @SmaartAasSaabr: Light weight. Plus, have you seen the 50-cent plastic hubcaps everyone uses these days? Chrysler and Toyota are the worst offenders.
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    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    I want a Dodge A-Team EV. We can talk then.
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    Image of Six Flags Over Tomsk Six Flags Over Tomsk
    04/22/09

    @Formerlythegreatestdriver: I pity the fool who bitches about the 8 hour recharge time!


    Wait, does that make him the fool?

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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    I really don't think electric is going to be viable for vehicles that are in service for eight hours or more per day for 5 or 6 days a week. Especially if said vehicles are air-conditioned (as these probably will be). I can see the mail carrier leaving the air on while he does the walking part of his rounds, and the charge lasting half the day or less. Unless there's some protable quick-charging technology that can come out to the dead van and charge it in less than an hour, i see a clusterfuck on the horizon.
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    Image of Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
    04/22/09

    @Ash65 will work for a Preview Button!: Good thinking. Though of the 6 or 8 places I've lived (that I can remember), I've never had a walking mail carrier. I wonder how many of them are left as a proportion of the total. In other words, there's still plenty of market for 100% vehicle delivery.
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    Image of Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face. Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
    04/22/09

    @Ash78: Any place where the mailboxes are on the house (most urban neighborhoods) will have walking service. At least they do in my neck of the universe.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    04/22/09

    @Ash65 will work for a Preview Button!: A van does have alot of real estate for a solar panel...
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    Image of Graverobber Graverobber
    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    My postal carrier drives a Ford Windstar, and my newspaper delivery guy (guy? gal? who can tell, it's dark then) drives a Mercury Villager. I guess we're all about the minivans for our home delivery out here. This being electric would lessen the drama of going postal I suppose.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @Graverobber: The current newspaper delivery lady has an ancient Gutless Ciera, and the mailman doesn't drive anything, because the post office is within rock-throwing distance of my house.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    An electric minivan. This will make my kidnappings so much easier.
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    04/22/09

    @Ash81: And quieter!
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @37hsA - now with failed cloning: Well, if you can stop her/him/them from screaming...
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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    Where are all the eco-maniacs now?


    First you people all demand this stuff. Then the auto companies you chastise finally deliver it and you either bitch about it before even giving it a chance or say nothing. That's what makes this "green" movement such a joke. People finally get what they've been whining for and when it comes time to pony up for it that won't.


    -Fuel efficient
    -Reliable
    -Cheap


    Pick two. Until you come to terms with that, piss off.


    Good work Chrysler, I can see you're trying to follow government orders despite this being a complete waste of resources.

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    Image of Unregular Unregular
    04/22/09

    @GasGuzzler: relax, champ.


    ok - i pick Reliable and Cheap! but not Fuel-efficient.


    what do i get?

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    Image of GasGuzzler GasGuzzler
    04/22/09

    @Unregular: A tin can from Korea. Congrats.
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    Image of Unregular Unregular
    04/22/09

    @GasGuzzler: seriously dude - Honda doesn't do cheap, reliable, AND fuel-efficient?


    Toyota? Mazda?


    why do I have to pick two when some are covering all three?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @GasGuzzler: Reliable and cheap, but inefficient? That'd be a Ford Freestyle. Come take it away.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    04/22/09

    @Unregular: Honda's not quite "cheap" compared to some of its competition.


    The Focus is all three, but it's uglier than a bag of smashed assholes.

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    04/22/09

    In reply to Chrysler Electric Postal Van Concept: The Pony-Up Express
    Hello again, TEVan.
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