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    Image of Turboner Turboner
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    It's cool. I've developed a new hybrid engine that runs off of tired memes and free porn.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    One isn't a problem. A million could be a gigantic problem.

    It all depends on the rate of uptake, and the effort made to adapt the grid, and to incorporate new power sources - like solar and wind - while continuing to conserve electrical usage in other ways.
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    Image of Tyson Tyson
    11/24/09

    @Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet: There's also the issue of different regional power grids having different capacities. In the Northwest and California, there is actually a lot of excess generation capacity, especially at night. The western states have all spent the last 30 years pushing for energy-efficient everything, so while peak power usage may be really high, the night-time loads are low. The eastern seaboard and the midwest tends to have a smaller difference between peak and base load power usage, so they'd be less able to absorb a lot of cars charging overnight.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    "Overall, a plug-in hybrid doesn't look much different to the grid than four or five flat screen TV's running at the same time"

    Which they just banned in Kalifornia...

    [latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Er, there's nothing in there about banning anything, they're setting setting limits on the amount of watts consumed per square inch of screen surface. Kinda like CAFE, PZEV, ULEV, IIHS, FMVSS, and NCAP standards for cars.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Which BAN new cars from being sold that don't meet those standards...
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Nooooooo, which force automakers to hit an average target of fuel economy and reach a baseline of safety requirements or pay a fine.

    You can't think Ferrari, MBUSA, BMW, Lamborghini and Porsche hit CAFE or PZEV requirements in their most lucrative market, they just pay the fine and pass it along to their consumers.
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    Image of jodark jodark
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Fair enough. The only correction I'd make to your statement is that it is a tax, because that's what it really is.
    Granted, it is a state government, so they do have more power to micro-manage, it still doesn't deserve the power to charge you more for paying for more electricity or gas or w/e.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @jodark: Move there, run for office, change the laws. If you don't like something fix it. Welcome to America.
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    I'm making a prediction - I bet that once the plug-ins are available, the uber greenies (hippies) will abandon their Priuses (Prii?) en mass, and be early-adopters of the new tech. That being the case, we don't have to worry about the electrical grid being overloaded.

    However, the "smug coefficient" will go thru the fucking roof.

    If you thought the Prius attitude was sickening, wait for these environmental heros (holier-than-thou a-holes) to get their sweaty, granola-covered mitts on these cars, then just sit back and watch the wretching...
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    Ben Wojdyla promoted this comment Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/24/09 2:54 PM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/24/09

    @Turbineguy - now with reheat!!: You do know there's a plug-in Prius coming very shortly don't you?
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    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: A p-p-plug in P-P-Prius?? *gasp* Ack... *thud*
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    Edited by Turbineguy - now with reheat!! at 11/24/09 8:13 PM Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was starred Turbineguy - now with reheat!! was unstarred
    Image of Turbineguy - now with reheat!! Turbineguy - now with reheat!!
    11/24/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Oy. Smug reaches critical mass...
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Make it a proprietary plug that supplies power between midnight and six.
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    Image of sandbeige sandbeige
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
    Benjamin: Yes, I am.
    Mr. McGuire: Extension cords
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    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    Jalop shhhhh, don't say this. If we scare the general population we can actually get smart grids here in the US and save on our electricity bill at home that we use to power up our power tools and watch rally car wrecks on our 50" plasmas.
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    Image of that ain't the way to have fun, son that ain't the way to have fun, son
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    \Cartman

    Goddamned hippies

    /Cartman
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    Image of zacarious zacarious
    11/24/09

    In reply to Plug-In Hybrids Will Not Kill The Power Grid, Yet
    However, they will kill your motoring soul.
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    Image of underwear-ninja underwear-ninja
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    After almost getting mowed down by a hybrid today (primarily my fault, but it was loud-windy today as well) I'm all for this.

    If I'm to get ran over by a car, I want to be ran over by a car I respect- not a gray Malibu hybrid. That said, if I'm to get ran over by a car- I want it to be an El Camino so I can just get flipped into the bed and die happy.
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    Image of Rob Shapiro Rob Shapiro
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    This really isnt that 'new' of a feature. GM's electric car from the 1990's, the EV1 had the very same deal.

    Because it ran silently, the EV1 had what was called a 'courtesy horn' - basically a low, friendly honk to let other cars or pedestrians know you were around.

    It also had a standard horn, for blaring your frustrations at the Dbag in front of you driving 35 on the highway.

    Whats old is new again!
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    Image of tmp00 tmp00
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    I want it to sound like the flying saucers on "UFO"
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    Ambient Metallica. Problem solved.
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    Image of skitter skitter
    11/20/09

    @GreenN_Gold: Ambient Metallica would be a great name for a rock band.

    Wait....
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter

    How long until the car companies start selling "car tones?"
    Let me be the first to request a car tone that sounds like someone hitting two halves of a coconut together.
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    Image of Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
    11/20/09

    @FriarNurgle: Lotus has been working on it. Your optional clop tone might be sold separately.
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    Image of JosephCole JosephCole
    11/20/09

    In reply to Chevy Volt "Chirps," Warns Pedestrians Of Impending Silent Vehicular Manslaughter
    What the hell. the volt was supposed to be the most bad ass looking electric car. They killed the concept car's new Camero's sleekness and replaced it with a civic.
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    11/20/09


    @JosephCole:
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