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philibuster
11/03/09

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No bead locks? meh. #chevysilverado
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brandegee
11/03/09

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I really cannot see how this is lame. The large grille, for example, is very functional, feeding cold air to the engine. #chevysilverado
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clinto
11/03/09

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$5-6 a gallon gas is on it's way back-the instant the economy begins an upswing that consumers can feel, we'll be right back where we were last summer. Oil briefly went past $80 a barrel a couple weeks ago and gas certainly isn't as cheap as it should be for the current economy.

Don't the domestics think instead of reinforcing the idea in the avg. (read: uneducated) consumer's mind that ALL they build is trucks and hot rods (read: bad gas mileage) that perhaps it would be a good idea to try convincing people that they make something else?

Raptors, ZR2s, high HP Camaros, etc......... seems roughly as bright as Dodge reintroducung a Hemi Challenger in 1973. #chevysilverado
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FrankGrimes
11/03/09

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I think this thing looks fantastic. Like was said though. It won't be built. #chevysilverado
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HiramJahoovafat
11/03/09

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"There's more to this concept than meets the eye," said Dewar. "Some of the components are being explored for possible inclusion in upcoming models."

Translation: 'We're STRONGLY looking into using the paint scheme & ZR2 decals... and the package may include the trail-run comforting contrasting seat stitching...' #chevysilverado
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smalleyxb122
11/03/09

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I'm a dyed in the wool Chevy guy, but if this is Chevy's answer to the Raptor, I might have to change my allegiance to the blue oval.

It needs a real skid plate instead of a bumper meant to mimic one. And while we're talking bumpers, why does a show vehicle with no pretensions of street legality not incorporate a prerunner style tubular bumper?

Exposed carbon fiber is played out. Paint the truck all one color.

But not beige. Beige by any other name is just as beige. #chevysilverado
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Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
11/03/09

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Like Iraq
It's too little and too late
Like Iraq
The attempt is second rate
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Like Iraq #chevysilverado
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Alfisted
11/03/09

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The Raptor, Power Wagon and this would all be fun to beat the snot out of on logging roads, dunes or desert. These trucks seem to disregard a couple of realities, though...

First, 'wheeling is hard on stuff. I don't know too many folks who are inclined to beat the tar out of a truck they just dropped 40 to 50 large on. Better to have an old Jeep and lots of junkyard replacement parts.

Second, lightness (and smallness) counts for a lot on the trail, in the bog or climbing that hill. #chevysilverado
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Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
11/03/09

@Alfisted: ...and as such, the most practical offroaders happen to be ancient Hiluxes and Samurais (sure, your 'mog, Pinz or C303 would be better, but a bit harder to live with). Full-size trucks don't fit in the woods, and anything that you wouldn't want to acquire a crinkle finish just ends up being a poseur-mobile.

...and as an aside, 300-500hp in this crop of fancy trucks doesn't do you a damn bit of good when finesse and good gear ratios count.

For example, a coworker of mine has a Ram Mega Cab (that he does use for truck stuff, actually), but he knows he'd get high centered or done in by the insanely huge turning radius if he got too far off the beaten path (he hauls an ATV into the area where he hunts this time of year). It's just too damn big to be useful off-road, and he is well-aware of it. #chevysilverado
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RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
11/03/09

@Paul Y. don't drive too fast.:

Building a baja style truck is not "cheap" no matter what you start with. Seems the pre-runner long travel suspension kits and Fox type shocks make these rigs quite a bit pricier than a lifted jeep for crawling.

I guess I'm just saying for it's purpose the Raptor is pretty reasonably priced.

If I were really wanting a pre-runner though, I'd start with a used truck (with character already) and add my own long travel kit, wheels, etc. I'd end up spending as much, but it'd be exactly what I wanted...and a Chevy. #chevysilverado
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Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
11/03/09

@RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: That's a good point -- no matter how you slice it, it isn't cheap to mod a truck like that, and do it right.

Of course, a prerunner type truck makes no sense in the climate I live in, either. As such, it's a bit alien to me, in a way. On the other hand, in these parts, there are plenty of guys who actually do creep around in the woods, where suspension travel, horsepower, and articulation (in the context of crawlers) aren't really as useful as plain ol' ground clearance and a short wheelbase. #chevysilverado
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pj134
11/03/09

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If they really wanted to be cool they'd drop an LS in a colorado. Us northeasterners need small trucks if we want to offroad, with giant tires and a relatively low center of gravity. Thats how we do or we get treed and flipped. Put 35's x 13.5's on a Colorado, an LS3, Dana 60's all around and lockers front and rear (mechanical not elockers) and you'd have your entirely own market secter that the others can't touch except Toyota or Nissan. #chevysilverado
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FrankGrimes
11/03/09

@pj134: You can get the 5.3L in a Colorado. #chevysilverado
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pj134
11/03/09

@FrankGrimes: No Dana 60's or 35"s though
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FrankGrimes
11/02/09

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Pretty freaking good looking even though she's obese. #camaroz28
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Novaload
11/02/09

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There's way too many edges on the front end of this thing. Maybe in black the rows would be less obvious, but at first glance it looked like a mutant, like the Family Truckster. #camaroz28
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Naters4
11/02/09

@Novaload: I kinda like the CTS-V type lower intakes, but agree that there's something kinda off on the whole front. Maybe the black hood edges?

If it were coming down the street, though, I'd be scared in the good way. #camaroz28
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Novaload
11/02/09

@Naters4: Yeah; that's not a face you see every day. #camaroz28
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FightingChance
11/02/09

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Every time I see the Camaro's tail, I think they were like "All done! Oh wait, reverse lights..." *knocks tiny, square chunk out of clay model* #camaroz28
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powermatic
11/02/09

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I rarely watch Leno-boring, dumb-but I do spend quality time at 'Jay's Garage', and can't help notice how personable, engaging, and just plain enjoyable a guy Jay is when he's discussing stuff that he's obviously passionate about-cars and bikes. He's smart, articulate, seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge of a huge range of motorized vehicles, from Stanley Steamers to early Harleys, he cracks off-the-cuff wise at the appropriate times, and just seems to be enjoying the hell out of these little video segments. Conversely, his nightly gig, in comparison, appears to be a 'job', a vehicle (you heard me) for a massive paycheck that allows him to accumulate his collection. Not to mention the auto-oriented swag that must be delivered in daily semi-loads.

I'm not saying NBC should paste together a nightly hour of Jay showing us his newly-rebuilt jet bike-but, hey, I'd be a convert. #camaroz28
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Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
11/02/09

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These 'forward' hood vents seem to be all the rage lately. In other cars, I think they're there in most cases for aerodynamics - to evacuate air from under the car/hood and send it over the roof and rear spoiler - as opposed to engine cooling.

But why do I get the feeling they're on the Camaro just for 'looks'? #camaroz28
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Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
11/02/09

@Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): Another example of its use for 'go' rather than 'show'... #camaroz28
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Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
11/02/09

@Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): And even to some extent this latter day 'saint'...

Am I making too much of this? Drawing a connection where there is none? Mis-understanding the purpose of those foreward hood vents? #camaroz28
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skaycog
11/02/09

@Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): You said that the Ford GT is "another example of its use for 'go' rather than 'show'. I'm not quite sure what that means. Are you saying that it runs well, but doesn't look good? #camaroz28
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Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe)
11/02/09

@skaycog: Not at all! I'm saying that the nose of the car is setup to use air flowing through the grill and then up over the 'vents' to keep the nose firmly planted to the track. Resulting in "go", which was the motivating factor to include it in the car's design.

I can't think of anything on the Ford GT that you'll ever find me insulting, devalueing, etc. I lust for the GT-40/GT - old, new, gulf oil livery or not. I was trying to contrast non-functional hood vents which are purely for "show" and result in little to no "go" benefit and - in some cases - may actually steal power and/or aerodynamic efficiency. #camaroz28
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skaycog
11/02/09

@Racin_G73 - dirt track legend (some day ... maybe): I knew you wouldn't insult it, I just wasn't sure what you meant. (When in doubt, ask). Now, I understand....thank you very much. :) #camaroz28
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moshy
11/02/09

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leno eh... #camaroz28
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HoonThatFerrari
11/02/09

@moshy: Either that or Ed Begly, Jr. #camaroz28
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