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philibuster
11/03/09

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No bead locks? meh. #chevysilverado
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brandegee
11/03/09

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I really cannot see how this is lame. The large grille, for example, is very functional, feeding cold air to the engine. #chevysilverado
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clinto
11/03/09

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$5-6 a gallon gas is on it's way back-the instant the economy begins an upswing that consumers can feel, we'll be right back where we were last summer. Oil briefly went past $80 a barrel a couple weeks ago and gas certainly isn't as cheap as it should be for the current economy.

Don't the domestics think instead of reinforcing the idea in the avg. (read: uneducated) consumer's mind that ALL they build is trucks and hot rods (read: bad gas mileage) that perhaps it would be a good idea to try convincing people that they make something else?

Raptors, ZR2s, high HP Camaros, etc......... seems roughly as bright as Dodge reintroducung a Hemi Challenger in 1973. #chevysilverado
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FrankGrimes
11/03/09

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I think this thing looks fantastic. Like was said though. It won't be built. #chevysilverado
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HiramJahoovafat
11/03/09

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"There's more to this concept than meets the eye," said Dewar. "Some of the components are being explored for possible inclusion in upcoming models."

Translation: 'We're STRONGLY looking into using the paint scheme & ZR2 decals... and the package may include the trail-run comforting contrasting seat stitching...' #chevysilverado
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smalleyxb122
11/03/09

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I'm a dyed in the wool Chevy guy, but if this is Chevy's answer to the Raptor, I might have to change my allegiance to the blue oval.

It needs a real skid plate instead of a bumper meant to mimic one. And while we're talking bumpers, why does a show vehicle with no pretensions of street legality not incorporate a prerunner style tubular bumper?

Exposed carbon fiber is played out. Paint the truck all one color.

But not beige. Beige by any other name is just as beige. #chevysilverado
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Ash Clutchem, Pokey Master
11/03/09

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Like Iraq
It's too little and too late
Like Iraq
The attempt is second rate
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Like Iraq #chevysilverado
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Alfisted
11/03/09

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The Raptor, Power Wagon and this would all be fun to beat the snot out of on logging roads, dunes or desert. These trucks seem to disregard a couple of realities, though...

First, 'wheeling is hard on stuff. I don't know too many folks who are inclined to beat the tar out of a truck they just dropped 40 to 50 large on. Better to have an old Jeep and lots of junkyard replacement parts.

Second, lightness (and smallness) counts for a lot on the trail, in the bog or climbing that hill. #chevysilverado
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Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
11/03/09

@Alfisted: ...and as such, the most practical offroaders happen to be ancient Hiluxes and Samurais (sure, your 'mog, Pinz or C303 would be better, but a bit harder to live with). Full-size trucks don't fit in the woods, and anything that you wouldn't want to acquire a crinkle finish just ends up being a poseur-mobile.

...and as an aside, 300-500hp in this crop of fancy trucks doesn't do you a damn bit of good when finesse and good gear ratios count.

For example, a coworker of mine has a Ram Mega Cab (that he does use for truck stuff, actually), but he knows he'd get high centered or done in by the insanely huge turning radius if he got too far off the beaten path (he hauls an ATV into the area where he hunts this time of year). It's just too damn big to be useful off-road, and he is well-aware of it. #chevysilverado
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RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment
11/03/09

@Paul Y. don't drive too fast.:

Building a baja style truck is not "cheap" no matter what you start with. Seems the pre-runner long travel suspension kits and Fox type shocks make these rigs quite a bit pricier than a lifted jeep for crawling.

I guess I'm just saying for it's purpose the Raptor is pretty reasonably priced.

If I were really wanting a pre-runner though, I'd start with a used truck (with character already) and add my own long travel kit, wheels, etc. I'd end up spending as much, but it'd be exactly what I wanted...and a Chevy. #chevysilverado
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Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
11/03/09

@RLJ676-LS3 Commuter Car - for the environment: That's a good point -- no matter how you slice it, it isn't cheap to mod a truck like that, and do it right.

Of course, a prerunner type truck makes no sense in the climate I live in, either. As such, it's a bit alien to me, in a way. On the other hand, in these parts, there are plenty of guys who actually do creep around in the woods, where suspension travel, horsepower, and articulation (in the context of crawlers) aren't really as useful as plain ol' ground clearance and a short wheelbase. #chevysilverado
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pj134
11/03/09

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If they really wanted to be cool they'd drop an LS in a colorado. Us northeasterners need small trucks if we want to offroad, with giant tires and a relatively low center of gravity. Thats how we do or we get treed and flipped. Put 35's x 13.5's on a Colorado, an LS3, Dana 60's all around and lockers front and rear (mechanical not elockers) and you'd have your entirely own market secter that the others can't touch except Toyota or Nissan. #chevysilverado
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FrankGrimes
11/03/09

@pj134: You can get the 5.3L in a Colorado. #chevysilverado
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pj134
11/03/09

@FrankGrimes: No Dana 60's or 35"s though
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MushyHeirloom
06/03/09

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Based on my experience with the W-body Impala and its sales numbers, I'm assuming they're offering buy-a-Cobalt-get-an-Impala-free... deals here.
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Ford Tempo Fanatic
06/03/09

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It seems to me, there are now more Fords on this list then I remember.
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Elhigh
06/03/09

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Fuck sales numbers. I want a car that runs, and whose AC works. I'm frikkin hot, and I have places to go.

Everything else is just Headless Chicken Dance.
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Triborough
06/03/09

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Perhaps the fact that the top two sellers are trucks is due to people being afraid that they will become illegal to purchase due to the glorious socialist revolution.
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sos10
06/03/09

@Triborough: Perhaps the fact that more than double the amount of people didn't buy a truck indicates that the vast majority of the population is not scared of that glorious socialist revolution.
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sos10
06/03/09

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So this top ten indicates that around 16.000 smaller SUV's, 64.000 trucks and 152.000 cars are sold.
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UDMan
06/03/09

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What I am most surprised at is the Ford Escape. The little SUV is what, 9 years old, with relatively few changes? The fact that the Edge isn't outselling it speaks volumes. And I see the Altima is right up there with the Camry and Accord.
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mikedrawcar
06/03/09

@UDMan: now that you bring that up, I agree. The Edge is way more attractive than the Escape, and one would think a bit more up to date in technology.
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Uncle Bo
06/03/09

@UDMan:

I believe the Escape is much less expensive than the Edge. It competes more with the CRV, the RAV4, Jeep Liberty, and the Korean models than does the Edge. Plus, I see quite a few Escapes in fleet sales to insurance companies, pharma reps, etc.
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IN THE FACE!
06/03/09

@mikedrawcar lost his star:

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danio3834
06/03/09

@UDMan: We do a lot of work on vehicles for a local Ford dealer. Sometimes I think that all they sell is Escapes.

Super popular vehicle.
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