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    Image of brandegee brandegee
    06/10/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    Chevy, place the 2.4 DI 4-banger in a compact wagon with a row-your-own and a few suspension/brake bits from the Cobalt SS and we'll talk.
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    Image of long_live_the_E36 long_live_the_E36
    06/10/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    Ben, do you know if this is based on the same platform as the upcoming Cadillac SRX?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/10/09

    @long_live_the_E36: That sir is extremely not true. The only thing these have in common is the 3.0 V6, and even those aren't tuned the same. I was very thorough in asking about the chassis development, and the SRX doesn't hold a single chassis stamping in common with the Equinox. There are similarities, but the SRX is much closer to the Epsilon II architecture than the Theta.
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    Image of 2Wheelsor4: The Moto-Stig 2Wheelsor4: The Moto-Stig
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    I guarantee you the Honda and Toyota entries would turn in better fuel mileage if they ditched the 4 and 5 speed autos for a 6.


    Not convinced, it's a chevy, it's a gm, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/09/09

    @2Wheelsor4: Ze Ümlaüt in Motörhead: Go test drive a CRV against it. Some of the dash materials are better, but then materials in the console are worse, the sunroof is nonsensical, and there's way less room.
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    Image of bdon bdon
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    it is yet another retarded vehicle. Carpocalypse2 anybody? VVT, and sideways. silly gayboys. how about straight forward, and quit phony doublng horsepower numbers...Repulsive. Are we gonna worship 70 degrees and downtown tokyo the rest of our car tortured lives? there is smarter in that realm too..this is not a peoples choice, it is not a winner, go play with your budgets until extincted . stupid ass**les.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: And you're driving a hideous CR-V.


    Shop it against a Rav-4. At least that way you don't look (as much) like a hairdresser.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @bdon: I still haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
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    Image of Shamoononon: I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    So, uh, if you had a family to cart around, what would you buy? Or would you strap them all to the bed of your pickup truck?


    Sheesh, it's better than a minivan.

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    Image of Wes Siler Wes Siler
    06/09/09

    @Shamoononon, Vampire Grater: Well, we wouldn't buy a 5-seat SUV as a family vehicle. Maybe a Jetta SportWagen TDI?
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/09/09

    @Shamoononon, Vampire Grater:


    In imagination land:


    In the real world:

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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    06/09/09

    @Shamoononon, Vampire Grater: Better than a minivan? You take that back!


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    Image of Timtoolman, sporadically speaking Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    I've never owned a GM product, but now might consider soemthing like this for Wifey- as opposed to a CR-V or the like.
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    Image of .357 .357
    06/09/09

    @Timtoolman, now with power tools!: Ready, listen to me.

    Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon Wagon.

    You got the message?
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @Ambiguously Unfunny Serial Killer: I think his wife wants a Jetta Wagon.
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    Image of Unregular Unregular
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    "Everyday mixed use saw an average of about 28.2 MPG, even accounting for our leaden foot."


    i don't believe it.


    "The thirstier V6 with all-wheel-drive returned 21.8 under mixed use"


    not with a leaden foot, don't believe it.


    "and the four-cylinder with all-wheel drive managed 23 MPG."


    unless your "mixed" is much different than mine, don't believe it.

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    06/09/09

    @Unregular: Assuming you don't own one, how do you expect anyone to respond to that?


    Are you calling Ben a liar?

    Are you accusing GM of fiddling with the on board computer?

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @Unregular: Oh, I get it - because it's not a Toyonda, it can't be efficient?
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/09/09

    @Unregular: Why don't you believe it?


    These guys at Jalopnik seem to have a lot of journalistic integrity (a rarity these days). I doubt they falsify their numbers. And if it was a mistake, they would clarify it.

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    Image of Unregular Unregular
    06/10/09

    @leavethegun-takethecannoli: i guess it's more like - "i CAN'T believe it"


    i don't get mileage that good in my Mazda3.


    my leaden foot is really, really leaden i guess.

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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    06/10/09

    @Unregular: I'm heavy on the gas as well. I never see anything close to published figures, but it's my own fault.
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    If this thing was made out of solid gold...I still wouldn't care. GM vehicles have always been a hard sell for me, but thanks to the bailout/takeover, they're a no sale.
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    Image of gas_pig70 gas_pig70
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    FWD (bias) in any car/crossover/suv will always be a deal-breaker for me no matter who's making it. Having no manual transmission would make me cry.


    I'd buy the smaller '09 Forrester any day before this thing. Unfortunately Subaru elected not to offer the 2.5XT models with a stick in the USA. Idiots.

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    Image of 1300ccsoffury 1300ccsoffury
    06/09/09

    @gas_pig70: I just noticed this. WTF?! Just last year you could get the 5-speed stick with the turbo motor.


    We need to go public with this!

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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/09/09

    @1300ccsoff*ckingfury: While I share your despair over this development, all we can do is shout into the dark. The take rate is so low on manual transmissions these days, the development and manufacturing costs are only ever recovered for sporty vehicles. The days of manual transmissions as "standard" are sadly, over.
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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    06/09/09

    @Ben Wojdyla: Ahem:

    [www.speedsportlife.com]
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/10/09

    @Mad_Science: Key word on the Fusion's six speed is "optional."
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    Image of gas_pig70 gas_pig70
    07/30/09

    @1300ccsoffury:I already sent a nasty note to Subaru of America and got a well thought response.
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    Image of OfficerRabbit OfficerRabbit
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    And with a vehicle like this, they'll keep chugging right along mired in bankruptcy..
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @OfficerRabbit: Pardon, but what do you propose they build? A hybrid? They're working on one with a 40-mile purely electric range. A family sedan? They have one. It's called Malibu, and it's a Camry-beater. A compact? Okay, you've got me there. But the Cruze is on the way.
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    Image of OfficerRabbit OfficerRabbit
    06/09/09

    @Floozy Plushbroom will eat 60 figs: Haha... a compact. Definitely a compact.
    Really though, I'm thinking this is just absolutely poitively ho-hum. Perhaps that has more to do with the segment as a whole though.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @OfficerRabbit: Sadly, this is what Americans want. Possibly because Americans are idiots. If it's equal to or better than the Rav4 and CR-V, it'll sell well to anyone who doesn't grow a dull grey woolen coat and feed on grass. Or, for that matter, anyone who can't fight off a coyote with a flock of friends to help.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    06/09/09

    @OfficerRabbit: The Cobalt, despite being outdated, is still an ok car, very, very ho-hum. It's a reasonable competitor to the Corolla. Still, it gets great economy with a stick, and the SS is more interesting than the XRS.
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    Image of sos10 sos10
    06/09/09

    @Floozy Plushbroom will eat 60 figs: and there is the problem. It wont sell outside the US, because nobody would want to buy it, while the RAV4 and CR-V do sell outside the US...

    So even if it does sell well in the US, it will never be able to make the same kind of profit for the company as the japanese equivalents do.

    And since the car market outside the US is growing at a much faster pace, this difference will become more and more noticeable in the next few years.


    In a nutshell, this is the main problem with the US car industry. If they want to survive they have to build cars that can be sold anywhere in the world.

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    Image of PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287 PotbellyJoe - As seen on I-287
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    Where's the picture of the Cargo area? It's all for naught if the space is unusable.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @PotbellyJoe: Ahh, yes, the Rogue effect. Great small crossover, useless cargo area.
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    Image of steelwheels: an eeror in every psot! steelwheels: an eeror in every psot!
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    I hate to be a downer, but it looks like a sackful of ferrets.
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @steelwheels: an eeror in every psot!: Indeed - but it's STILL far more attractive than the CR-V!
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    06/09/09

    @Floozy Plushbroom will eat 60 figs: That's not saying much.


    Also, maybe it's just me, but I think Chevy has the cheapest-looking tailights in the industry.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @FromaBuick6: They stole these from Dodge. Worst part of the exterior.
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    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    06/10/09

    @steelwheels: an eeror in every psot!: I will be stealing that phrase. But I agree. Didn't know GM had contracted its design out to Ssongyang already.


    That said, I think there's some sort of intermural competition to see who can design the ugliest compact SUV and get away with it. CR-V and Rav4 make for tough competition, but BMW won't be outdone with the X1 coming along soon!

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    Image of dusanmal dusanmal
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    Not even a bother for Subaru Forester.


    My measure of cheap build quality: 2.4L (188hp) yet only 1500 lbs towing capacity... (Above mentioned Subaru less hp: 170 but can do more, towing 2400 lbs... Why? Cheap build quality of engine/trans. is only possible answer).

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    Image of Mad_Science Mad_Science
    06/09/09

    @dusanmal: There are a lot of things that fit into a given tow rating. I'd say a "cheap build quality" on the tranny is a bit unfair.


    Besides, a Forester doesn't get this good of mileage. One way to do that is to lower rotating mass in things like the transmission and differentials.


    Most buyers in this segment aren't interested in towing, anyway.


    Just FYI, I'd probably still buy the Forester.

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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @dusanmal: I think Chevy's just underrating it to get you to buy a larger SUV.
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    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    06/09/09

    @dusanmal & Floozy Plushbroom will eat 60 figs: They both share an identical optional hitch but the V6 gets an uprated transmission and a 4500 lb tow rating. Sure, it's all about the transmission, but it's also the buyer. People who want to tow stuff are going to want more power and greater durability, and they'll be willing to give up high fuel economy for it. Considering GM is expecting between 70 and 95% I4 mix (depending on the price of fuel), I think they're biasing on the correct side
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    Image of sciontc sciontc
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    The name looks like 2010 Chevy Econobox
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    Image of MushyHeirloom MushyHeirloom
    06/09/09

    @sciontc: Good thing the CUV doesn't.
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    Image of smalleyxb122 smalleyxb122
    06/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Chevrolet Equinox: First Drive
    How much gasoline can I buy for my 13mpg truck for the price difference, figuring in the $4500 "cash for clunkers" credit?


    /carry the one...


    //I guess I'm keeping my truck.


    GM has been on the long and difficult road to improved public perception in several segments for several years. Bankruptcy isn't going to help matters, but hopefully when they get there, they don't rest on their laurels and let the competition pass them back.

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