The 77 has the reliable Iron Duke 4-cyl, not the bimetallic engine of 71. They still had a tendency to rust. I vote Nice Price. I just have a thing for these 70's cars. Does Chevrolet make anything today that looks remotely as good as this except the Camaro or Corvette? A Daewoo/Chevrolet Aveo costs this much. People pay good money for Model A Fords and I bet this "GT" will outperform one of those.
Only problem is that I can get a mint Cordoba with the fine Corinthian leather for less. Sorry Vega, in this small Chrysler, I have what I need.
@jedchev: It looks to me like that's not the case. Good ole wiki indicates that it has a new aluminum engine with cast iron cylinder liners, which the original lacked. And the ad says it's 140 cubic inches. The iron duke is 151. The iron duke would certainly be a more reliable choice. I don't know if the cylinder liners actually solved the 2.3's woes or not. [en.wikipedia.org]
@jedchev: I too was actually under the impression that at least some late Vegas were Iron Duke equipped. But I checked with Consumer's Guide's 50 Years of American Automobiles and the info is indeed correct: the Iron Duke debuted in '77 and only in the Astre.
@scottcom36: Well, see, that's because it takes a superior car to be sold as a Pontiac. GM would never make a Pontiac that's a simple re-badged clone of a Chevy. That wouldn't make any sense.
I will step out of the shadows and confess: I voted for it. $13k is chump change for cars these days, it has historical interest in being still vacuum packed and sealed up (new car smell!) and some collector could buy it just because.
@smalleyxb122: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that Vegas looked kind of cool. That's a nice size and shape, with an attractive simplicity in today's world. Shame about the build quality.
Perhaps we need a QOTD - "What car do you most wish was better than it really was?"
A non-Cosworth Vega that hasn't been pro-streeted, is certainly a rare duck. But is it worth that kind of money?
Part of what makes a Vega desirable is that they look kind of cool, and you can get them cheap. $13,500 violates half of that formula, and therefore kills the desirability.
Being post-'73 hurts the other side of the formula as well, as the early Vegas were cooler looking on the "kind of cool" scale. A pre-'74 would be worth more to me than this one, and I'd have a hard time considering a pristine '73 worth 5 figures.
I'm one of the disturbed folks who considers himself a Vega fan, and it is with a heavy heart that I vote crack pipe.
Keeping as decrepit a car as a '77 vega in this fashion makes you wonder what else the seller has been keeping around- possible a deceased family member, ala Norman Bates, or perhaps that issue of Penthouse with Tonya Harding- eww.
I'm gonna' say inner-city, although that color makes this more butt wipe than crack pipe.
It's a great price - for GM. They can refocus their auto collection on exhibits that explain how they came to suck so hard. Seeing that Vega really helps me understand why they're just one twitch away from flatlining now. And they can pay for all these abominations for the low price of selling off just a few of their unique Corvettes!
The car is crack pipe. Seriously, saying this is the nicest Vega in the world is like saying this is the best smelling poo in the world. It still stinks.
But that's not the important part. More important than the car is the person behind this car. I can't decide if they are a genius for not putting themselves through the horror of driving such a monument to failure, or are they maybe partaking too much of the crack pipe to buy a (1) buy a Vega and then (2) not drive a car they paid for.
*water bubbling*) (*voice in background repeating "make crack like this"*)
[Master P] Imagine substitutin crack for music I mean dope tapes, this is how we would make it (There it is right there) For all you players, hustlers, ballers and even you smokers
("Ma ma ma ma make crack like this")
[Master P] Ghetto Dope, No Limit Records ("Ma ma ma make crack like this") Part of the Tobacco, Firearms, and Freedom of Speech Committee Thank you dope fiends for your support, ha ha
[C-Murder] Let me give a shotout to the D Boys (drug dealerss) Neighborhood dope man, I mean real niggas that'll make a dollar out of fifteen cents Ain't got a dime, but I rides and pay the rent Professional crackslanger I serve fiends I once went to jail for having rocks up in my jeans But nowadays I be too smart for the task C-Murder been known to keep the rocks up in the skillet man Waitin on a kilo they eight I'm straight you dig What you need ten, ain't no fuckin order too big And makin crack like this is the song You won't be getting yo money if yo shit ain't cooked long Overcook yo' dope it might come out brown Them fiends gonna run yo ass clean outta town But fuck that I'm bout to put my soldiers in the game And tell ya how to make crack from cocaine One - look for the nigga wit the whitest snow Two - no buying from no nigga that you don't know Make yo way to the kitchen where the stove be You get the baking soda I got yo D Get the triple beam and measure out yo dope Mix one gram of soda every seven grams of coke An shake it up until it get harder Then sit the tube in some ready made cold water Twist the bitch like a knot while it's still hot And watch that shit while it can rise to the fuckin top Now ya cocaine powder is crack Nigga I hopes you strapped cause you might get jacked
[Chorus: repeat all 4X] Ghett Ghett Ghett Ghetto Dope Ma Ma Ma Ma Make Crack like this Ghett Ghetto Dope
[Silkk the Shocker] My phone rang I picked it up (Need some weight) What you need (Silkk bout a coupla K) I had it all into powder but it ain't no thang Gimme a coupla hours I have it all in a cake Trust nobody got my gun and went an smacked Kane and Abel You probably catch me choppin ki's choppin ki's up on my mom's table I got a big order for some coke I called some hoes up I want ya'll but naked while you cookin up my dope I told ya'll we some Tru G's See me and P and C ??? with uzi's Choppin up two ki's Baby twenty-four oz's a piece Cause see if it ain't about money Then it ain't about me Hella mail from sales Hella yeah for scales Come up short My money jumpin yo ass like bail First of all you gotta have nuts Don't give a fuck Cause when I bust niggas guts They know if it miss it ain't by much Thinkin short like I'm only seventeen A coupla dope fiends Some oz's A triple beam And then playa hit yo block And tell a bitch nigga to raise up off the spot That's why I acts like this But I rides rims, them gold D's (Ma Ma Make Crack like this) I made crack like this
[Chorus]
[Master P] Nigga Nigga never let a nigga front you no dizos Start from the ground, work yo way up to a kilo Get some killers on yo team, keep one up in the chamber For the jackas and the dope fiends Fools come short get rowdy Kick down doors, show motherfuckers that ya bout it bout it Break ki's down to oz's Never buy any dope without weighin it on the triple beam Fuck soda use V-12 Keep a stash for the tryin to take other niggas clientele Check the man made junk for residue Cause every fiend you miss want three or two 1. Never talk on the phone in ya house 2. Never slang dope out ya baby momma's house 3. Never fuck with snitches Cause niggas that talk to the police is bitches 4. Keep a low key And if you movin weight treat yo'self to an uzi The first hit for free (damn) But the next time you see me You betta have twenty G 5. Never pay Pimp hoes for the pussy That's the 'Merican way Clean up ya dirty money to good money Cause legal money last longer than drug money
@leavethegun-takethecannoli: Wow, I never realized how profane this song was. If anybody was offended by the profanity, I apologize, for it was not my intent.
I'm actually a bit torn on this. I had a 73 and as bad as it was, I still was fond of it. Personally I'd rather have one I could actually drive (if there is such a thing) as opposed to one you'd pretty much be afraid to drive such as this one.
The execution was highly flawed and 32 years later they still have failed to make a competitive small car but I'm going against the flow on this one and saying nice price. Screw you guys...
There was an article on Yahoo! this morning talking about the biggest mistakes made in naming a car "The Car of the Year." The '71 Vega was on that list.
A piece of garbage by any other name is a piece of garbage. Major crack pipe.
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Only problem is that I can get a mint Cordoba with the fine Corinthian leather for less. Sorry Vega, in this small Chrysler, I have what I need.
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But not me.
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I doubt that, though. And the vinyls down the side say "VECO CT".
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Perhaps we need a QOTD - "What car do you most wish was better than it really was?"
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Part of what makes a Vega desirable is that they look kind of cool, and you can get them cheap. $13,500 violates half of that formula, and therefore kills the desirability.
Being post-'73 hurts the other side of the formula as well, as the early Vegas were cooler looking on the "kind of cool" scale. A pre-'74 would be worth more to me than this one, and I'd have a hard time considering a pristine '73 worth 5 figures.
I'm one of the disturbed folks who considers himself a Vega fan, and it is with a heavy heart that I vote crack pipe.
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I'm gonna' say inner-city, although that color makes this more butt wipe than crack pipe.
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But that's not the important part. More important than the car is the person behind this car. I can't decide if they are a genius for not putting themselves through the horror of driving such a monument to failure, or are they maybe partaking too much of the crack pipe to buy a (1) buy a Vega and then (2) not drive a car they paid for.
That, my friends, is the real question.
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Heck, its even about that color.
This, my friends, is a crack pipe smoking its own crack pipe.
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(*voice in background repeating "make crack like this"*)
[Master P]
Imagine substitutin crack for music
I mean dope tapes, this is how we would make it
(There it is right there)
For all you players, hustlers, ballers and even you smokers
("Ma ma ma ma make crack like this")
[Master P]
Ghetto Dope, No Limit Records
("Ma ma ma make crack like this")
Part of the Tobacco, Firearms, and Freedom of Speech Committee
Thank you dope fiends for your support, ha ha
[C-Murder]
Let me give a shotout to the D Boys (drug dealerss)
Neighborhood dope man, I mean real niggas
that'll make a dollar out of fifteen cents
Ain't got a dime, but I rides and pay the rent
Professional crackslanger I serve fiends
I once went to jail for having rocks up in my jeans
But nowadays I be too smart for the task
C-Murder been known to keep the rocks up in the skillet man
Waitin on a kilo they eight I'm straight you dig
What you need ten, ain't no fuckin order too big
And makin crack like this is the song
You won't be getting yo money if yo shit ain't cooked long
Overcook yo' dope it might come out brown
Them fiends gonna run yo ass clean outta town
But fuck that I'm bout to put my soldiers in the game
And tell ya how to make crack from cocaine
One - look for the nigga wit the whitest snow
Two - no buying from no nigga that you don't know
Make yo way to the kitchen where the stove be
You get the baking soda I got yo D
Get the triple beam and measure out yo dope
Mix one gram of soda every seven grams of coke
An shake it up until it get harder
Then sit the tube in some ready made cold water
Twist the bitch like a knot while it's still hot
And watch that shit while it can rise to the fuckin top
Now ya cocaine powder is crack
Nigga I hopes you strapped cause you might get jacked
[Chorus: repeat all 4X]
Ghett Ghett Ghett Ghetto Dope
Ma Ma Ma Ma Make Crack like this Ghett Ghetto Dope
[Silkk the Shocker]
My phone rang I picked it up
(Need some weight)
What you need
(Silkk bout a coupla K)
I had it all into powder but it ain't no thang
Gimme a coupla hours I have it all in a cake
Trust nobody got my gun and went an smacked Kane and Abel
You probably catch me choppin ki's choppin ki's up on my mom's table
I got a big order for some coke
I called some hoes up
I want ya'll but naked while you cookin up my dope
I told ya'll we some Tru G's
See me and P and C
??? with uzi's
Choppin up two ki's
Baby twenty-four oz's a piece
Cause see if it ain't about money
Then it ain't about me
Hella mail from sales
Hella yeah for scales
Come up short
My money jumpin yo ass like bail
First of all you gotta have nuts
Don't give a fuck
Cause when I bust niggas guts
They know if it miss it ain't by much
Thinkin short like I'm only seventeen
A coupla dope fiends
Some oz's
A triple beam
And then playa hit yo block
And tell a bitch nigga to raise up off the spot
That's why I acts like this
But I rides rims, them gold D's (Ma Ma Make Crack like this)
I made crack like this
[Chorus]
[Master P]
Nigga Nigga never let a nigga front you no dizos
Start from the ground, work yo way up to a kilo
Get some killers on yo team, keep one up in the chamber
For the jackas and the dope fiends
Fools come short get rowdy
Kick down doors, show motherfuckers that ya bout it bout it
Break ki's down to oz's
Never buy any dope without weighin it on the triple beam
Fuck soda use V-12
Keep a stash for the tryin to take other niggas clientele
Check the man made junk for residue
Cause every fiend you miss want three or two
1. Never talk on the phone in ya house
2. Never slang dope out ya baby momma's house
3. Never fuck with snitches
Cause niggas that talk to the police is bitches
4. Keep a low key
And if you movin weight treat yo'self to an uzi
The first hit for free (damn)
But the next time you see me
You betta have twenty G
5. Never pay
Pimp hoes for the pussy
That's the 'Merican way
Clean up ya dirty money to good money
Cause legal money last longer than drug money
I just thought it was fitting.
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The execution was highly flawed and 32 years later they still have failed to make a competitive small car but I'm going against the flow on this one and saying nice price. Screw you guys...
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A piece of garbage by any other name is a piece of garbage. Major crack pipe.
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[jalopnik.com]
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The Vega is a wretched car.