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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/05/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Sooo...they're replacing a five-year old design on an old Mercedes platform with...a ten-year old design on that same platform.

    Dodge...grabbing life by the horns then dragging it backwards. #chrysler
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    Image of buick61 buick61
    11/05/09

    @bmoreDLJ: Any self-respecting car guy knows that the LX isn't an old Mercedes platform. And the next generation will have even less to do with the Benz-era parts, as it's getting new engines, transmissions, and electrical system. #chrysler
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    Image of bmoreDLJ bmoreDLJ
    11/05/09

    @buick61: "...The LX was developed in America using components borrowed from the Mercedes-Benz W220 S-class control arm front suspension, Mercedes-Benz W210 E-Class the 5-link rear suspension, the W5A580 5-speed automatic, the rear differential, and the ESP system..."

    True, not an old Mercedes platform, but used components. #chrysler
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    Image of I was drivin' that Model A I was drivin' that Model A
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Honestly, it should have been done like the concept car, the first time around. #chrysler
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    Image of GreenN_Gold GreenN_Gold
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    I always liked that concept. IIRC, it supposedly ran on CNG, but it was the styling that was the point. I have high hopes for the next Charger. #chrysler
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    Image of If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face If FromaBuick6 has to watch one more Chevy commercial, he's going to punch Howie Long in the face
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Great googly moogly! That's the Challenger they should have built 5 years ago. It's 10 years too late, but that's still awesome. #chrysler
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    "...had rear door handles in the roof line rather than the door panel — giving it a two-door look — but this was eventually dropped."

    Thank heaven! That's one recent styling trend I simply abhor. It's as if the rear doors on every four-door car and SUV designed in the last decade are some dirty little secret:
    "I know I'm just a nerdy four-door that will spend my whole life ferrying kids around Suburbia at fairly sedate speeds, but maybe, if I dress just right and manage to hide these door handle blemishes, the cool kids might mistake me for a sexy coupe, if only for a minute. That'd make my frumpy existence slightly more bearable."

    No! If you want a coupe, go build a car with two doors. If you want a sedan, make one that's damn proud of those two extra doors, instead of trying to apologize for them. Nobody (and no design) should aspire to be anything other than what they are. Sedans gotta learn Mo'Nique's mantra — "I'm sexy as hell, and I know it!"
    Yea, baby got door handles!

    (By the way, drastically raising the door handles on the very doors most likely to be used by little kids for ingress is not only counter-functional design, it's needlessly cruel.)
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    Edited by Tanshanomi at 11/04/09 3:11 PM Tanshanomi was starred Tanshanomi was unstarred
    Image of Skunky Skunky
    11/04/09

    @Tanshanomi: I think they should hide the fact it has door handles AT ALL. Put all the door handles in the trunk, so you have to pop the trunk and yank a lever to get into the car. #chrysler
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    Image of LTDScott LTDScott
    11/04/09

    @Tanshanomi: ^5 #chrysler
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Whatever it is, it needs more rubbery stuff to roll on and less blings--how's about some simple dog dishes? Centerlines? Even some old Cragars?
    It's about the car, not the wheels. Jeez, how did that ever go so wrong?! #chrysler
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    Image of GTBruiser GTBruiser
    11/04/09

    @Novaload: It gone beyond complimenting a car's shape to overpowering the design. Too bad. #chrysler
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    Image of bzr bzr
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    I'm not getting my hopes up. Remember, the Dodge Avenger looked good when it was teased, too.

    My cynicism tells me that this line looks good, but look at how shallow it is. It's simply an overwrought design gimmick that will probably belie other wonky details and horrendous proportions. They didn't even cut a hole for a fender vent or anything! At least here is where I wouldn't mind a pointless gaping hole, because it would fit with that door line.

    Then again, I'm not expecting much from Chrysler these days. #chrysler
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    Image of Tanshanomi Tanshanomi
    11/04/09

    @bzr: I still think the Avenger looks good. I would go so far as to say that the proportions are better than the existing Charger.

    Which makes the fact that it's a horrendous car even more galling. #chrysler
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/04/09

    @Tanshanomi: I agree, the Avenger is actually decent-looking. It's a shame it turned out the way it did. #chrysler
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    Image of FightingChance FightingChance
    11/04/09

    @Tanshanomi: I agree with you on the Avenger - I think it's a well sorted design with more cohesion than the Charger, but that's where the positive outlook ends on that car. #chrysler
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    Image of ThreeLitre ThreeLitre
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Yeah, one detail sticks way out: It's a Chrysler sedan underneath. #chrysler
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Weight? Dimensions? Looks big. #chrysler
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    Image of Paul Y. don't drive too fast. Paul Y. don't drive too fast.
    11/04/09

    @Alfisted: It probably is. The LX platform is fairly big now, and probably destined to bloat further. #chrysler
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    About time. Looks great from what I can see.

    If anyone cares, I didn't like the styling of the last Charger. #chrysler
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    Image of JDisnidiet JDisnidiet
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    I know Chargers. I have worked with Chargers, and you, sir, with your 4 doors, are no Charger. #chrysler
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/04/09

    In reply to 2012 Dodge Charger: First Look
    Promisingish.
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    Edited by beercheck at 11/04/09 2:24 PM beercheck was starred beercheck was unstarred
    Image of vdiddy210 vdiddy210
    05/07/09

    In reply to Illinois State Trooper Takes Seized Charger SRT8 Home
    This stuff is ridiculous.


    I know if you're involved in a crime you should be punished. but a DUI, while a serious offense, is something to revoke a license not seize an automobile.


    especially one that cost around 40k.


    Police are greedy (I know a bunch) I've gone to a police auction once and they were down to fisticuffs over buying certain cars and property. I understand they don't make much money but they work for the government (aka us) and they made the decision to live this lifestyle.


    They might be able to justify it as the driver broke the law and now needs to pay, but it's really just legal stealing. I love when cops get the DUI, that makes my day...yet somehow they don't get their car taken away

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    Image of something_unique_and_descriptive something_unique_and_descriptive
    05/07/09

    @vdiddy210: Cops actually make better money than they'll admit. Some areas they can make >$90k a year.
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    Image of Plecostomus [Tyrrell] Plecostomus [Tyrrell]
    05/07/09

    In reply to Illinois State Trooper Takes Seized Charger SRT8 Home
    Reminder:



    THIS.

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    Image of Mobius Mobius
    05/07/09

    In reply to Illinois State Trooper Takes Seized Charger SRT8 Home
    They obviously had to get fast cars so your family and you can be saved from the robbery.
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