I like the idea of this,they may be a little late,as the best modern day lightweight car i can think of is the Atom. It's just good to see a car company putting the driver & the driving experience first.
How about we make an S2 with 100 HP for about $22.500 USD?
I don't think the world wants a better Se7en beyond the r500. What it wants is a cheaper one...just MHO.
Plenty of people have tried to reinvent the lightweight sports car, including Atom, Brooke, Radical, and the Light Car Company...among others (Brunton, WCM, Westfield, Birkin, Deman, etc.) so there plenty of choices...however, I remind everyone that they tried an alternate model in the past....the Caterham 21, which i loved but no one bought.
@Al Navarro: They already make the Caterham classic,1400cc & 105 bhp. Also the story is not about replacing the Se7en,it's about a completely new car, how can that be a bad thing?
And the Classic, once you get it over here to the US, costs about $40k. For a car that is not much more than a weekender in most parts of the country (damn you Southern California!).
Costs aside, I think that their attempts to come up with the next best thing are laudable, but will prove to be futile. Everyone else who doesn't own the keys to Colin Chapman's design has been trying to top the Seven since 1957. And the fact that the r500 can still show cars twice and three times its cost the door is a good indicator that perhaps there's no point for Caterham to try and reinvent itself.
Does the world need another Elise? I see quite a few sitting unsold at my local Lotus dealer.
From the information i've read they will make the Se7en as long as there is demand for it,which is still as strong as ever & seen off many would be challengers along the way. This can only be seen as a good thing,they are listening to what potential customers,obviously they will have to filter off the not so good comments. Everyday on this site people complain that car makers don't listen,this has great potential.
@layabout: There is only one thing Caterham should listen to. Lower the price!
I love the whole concept, but Caterhams are way to expensive if you ask me. Locost projects have proven this fact. If one man can make it cheaper on a noncommercial basis, then Caterham or any other company should be able to make it even cheaper. Let's face it there hasn't been much invested into R&D of this design since it was first introduced.
On the other note. Next Caterham should be a MR configuration, have pushrod suspension and be called the Atom.
Oh wait!
p.s. Don't know how many of you are following dp1's progress but it seems it's going to have many siblings.
This is a bad idea. If i have learned one thing in my automotive history, most people lack class. It doesn't matter how much money you have, or where you are from, there is always a douchebag who thinks a chrome license plate surround, and stick on portholes makes it a "type - R"
I wonder how much crap they will sift through before they decide most people are idiots (besides you guys of course) and just offer a se7en with a hardtop and a hatch, and call it a day.
@TR3-A: Funny you should mention that,they already used the Homer of an example of what they wont do,they used it as an example of that it can't be an everything for everyone type of car.
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i see what you did there Wes. nice... if only i could remember who that naming scheme originated with..
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I don't think the world wants a better Se7en beyond the r500. What it wants is a cheaper one...just MHO.
Plenty of people have tried to reinvent the lightweight sports car, including Atom, Brooke, Radical, and the Light Car Company...among others (Brunton, WCM, Westfield, Birkin, Deman, etc.) so there plenty of choices...however, I remind everyone that they tried an alternate model in the past....the Caterham 21, which i loved but no one bought.
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And the Classic, once you get it over here to the US, costs about $40k. For a car that is not much more than a weekender in most parts of the country (damn you Southern California!).
Costs aside, I think that their attempts to come up with the next best thing are laudable, but will prove to be futile. Everyone else who doesn't own the keys to Colin Chapman's design has been trying to top the Seven since 1957. And the fact that the r500 can still show cars twice and three times its cost the door is a good indicator that perhaps there's no point for Caterham to try and reinvent itself.
Does the world need another Elise? I see quite a few sitting unsold at my local Lotus dealer.
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I love the whole concept, but Caterhams are way to expensive if you ask me. Locost projects have proven this fact. If one man can make it cheaper on a noncommercial basis, then Caterham or any other company should be able to make it even cheaper. Let's face it there hasn't been much invested into R&D of this design since it was first introduced.
On the other note. Next Caterham should be a MR configuration, have pushrod suspension and be called the Atom.
Oh wait!
p.s. Don't know how many of you are following dp1's progress but it seems it's going to have many siblings.
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I wonder how much crap they will sift through before they decide most people are idiots (besides you guys of course) and just offer a se7en with a hardtop and a hatch, and call it a day.
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Just wonderin'.
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I thought the same exact thing.
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