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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Luxury Planes? American origin? Saudi Arabia? Must have been looking for some oil.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Unfortunately that plane has deteriorated a lot more since those pictures were taken; it's literally started to fall apart. Here's a translation from an Arabic webpage with more recent photos:

    [translate.google.com]
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    "...luxury flying yacht."

    Kendall was not the only one to have this concept. About 15 years ago, some rich Brit spent about a bizillion dollars converting a Catalina into a Caribbean island-hopper, complete with luxury suite, wine cooler and swim ladders. He was sure he'd do a land-office business renting it to pop stars, movie moguls and others among the rich and famous eager for unique a getaway.

    The bad news is that word quickly got out that a 50-year old WWII patrol plane, no matter how well appointed inside, is still an uncomfortably noisy, smoky, vibrating hulk under power. He only got 2 or 3 clients before the concern folded.

    I learned about it from the listing in Trade-A-Plane not too much later. I can only wonder who finally ended up with it, and what it's used for today.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    The Catalina's value to the Allies in WWII was inversely proportionate to its lack of grace and performance. I used to love watching them climb out; you could barely perceive any kind of climb rate.
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    09/22/09

    @Number_Six: Replace the motors with a couple of R-4360's, replace the observation bubbles with flat windows, and slap some speed tape on it and you got yourself an Unlimited racer for Reno!
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    The Catalina is a great plane. They were used by every branch of the military throughout WWII and even into the Korean War and beyond. The were used as everything from submarine patrols to recovering downed pilots.

    This one, while sad, is a reminder that a generation is dying. A generation of vehicles and aircraft built for the express purpose of defending liberty. A generation of people who gave much of themselves and sacrificed because it was the right thing to do. Not because they were forced or coerced, but because their fellow humans were in trouble.

    This Greatest Generation begat a generation that grew up in relative peace. No longer were copper, rubber and steel directed solely to a war effort. No longer were war bonds sold. In many ways, this is great. However, in some ways this has made us soft, self-centered, and with little appetite for fighting for what is right.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Too bad that the Catalina is relatively common. If this was one of the rarer warbirds I'm sure someone would be trying to restore it. There have been some with less than this left that were restored/remanufactured. According to wikipedia there are about 20 airworthy Catalinas left.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    .

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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week

    Hey! I've seen this before on ArtificialOwl too, I wondered if it would ever get to be on Jalopnik! I love this plane. The PBY-5A Catalina is a beautiful plane when fixed up. One of my favorites. I would love to fix one up like this and turn it into a modern luxury boat/plane.
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    09/21/09

    @Buickboy92: Bad idea. See my post above.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Nooo! The Cat is such a pretty plane! Somebody buy that poor thing up and fix it.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week

    OK, someone had to do it....
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    09/21/09

    @Alf, in pog form: You, my friend, seem to be responsible for the destruction of some keyboards this morning. Add one more to that list. Great job!
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    09/21/09

    @Alf, in pog form: Nicely done.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Yeah. Israeli insurgents. They're so hardcore, they even bring their kids along with them on their random missions to Saudi Arabia.

    I wish my parents were that hardcore.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Great story, nice way to open the week up for "Crash Week".
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    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week

    Too bad here we only have the dead planes of bankrupt airlines.
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    09/21/09

    @Syrax: That looks like a cool place... where is it?!
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    09/21/09

    @Syrax: It's always sad to see once proud aircraft rotting away. In the United States, in Arizona, there is a place called Davis-Monthan Airbase, where they store thousands of old, retired military aircraft. Most of the ones that are left are Vietnam-era planes, but there are still a few Korean War-era planes that have survived this long.

    The link below is to a google image search for Davis-Monthan, and many of the pics really do highlight just how big that place is.

    [images.google.com]
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    09/21/09

    @pauljones: It is known as "Davis -Mothball" amongst some.
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    09/21/09


    @bkdlays: Brazil, that one must be in Brasília. Vasp left a lot of airplanes all around the world. There are a few in Sao Paulo too.
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    09/21/09

    @pauljones: Don't most of those airplanes stored there get kept in really good, almost flyable condition? I heard many of them can be easily made airworthy again.
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    09/21/09

    @nsx23: Unless they have been used as parts hulks, then yes, they are all still theoretically serviceable.

    The dry desert heat is the perfect place to store those planes, as it minimizes corrosion.
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    09/21/09

    @nsx23: Most of them are. The USAF stores all their old planes for spare parts. These planes can also be returned to flying condition should the need arise. There are so many planes there that it is in effect the world's third largest air force!
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    09/21/09

    @Syrax: That photo of a jet in he middle of town makes me really wish there were entire villages made up of old planes in place of buildings. That would be awesome.

    In point of fact, there probably is something in the real world like that. If you dream it, it can happen.
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    09/21/09

    @Syrax: I highly recommend the site www.darkroastedblend.com for moar awesome photos of derelict places, planes, and everything else. I'm pretty sure they featured some airplane graveyard a while back, and lots of eerie abandoned parks in Korea.
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    09/21/09


    @bmoreDLJ: There must be, there are a few restaurants in planes, even a 747 in Korea. That one above pictured in Sao Paulo is one of a few locked between Vasp's buildings in Congonhas airport, waiting for the legal process. The planes probably will go to scrap but there are a lot of eyes in the buildings.
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    09/21/09

    @Syrax: How the hell did that plane get in the middle of all the buildings?
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    Image of UDMan UDMan
    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    There is an Airshow near Buffalo, New York that you really can't miss if you're in the area. It is the 1941 Airshow, held in Geneseo, NY. The Museum there used to fly one of these magnificent Catalinas, along with a number of other types.

    The most interesting thing about this show is that it is held on a grass runway, and the planes are parked in a huge field. You can go waling among the planes, even when they start their engines to taxi up to the runway. Listening to those Curtis-Wright, or Pratt&Whitney radial engines start up and rumble is a sight to behold.

    Here's a picture of a Catalina in great condition.
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    09/21/09

    @UDMan: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
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    Image of Quattro-luvr Quattro-luvr
    09/21/09

    In reply to Abandoned Seaplane At Critical Intersection Of Planelopnik, Crash Week
    Looks like a nice weekend project. About 48 hours of work and that thing will be humming along...
    All it needs is John Goodman in the pilots seat.
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    09/21/09

    @Quattro-luvr: It's Project Plane Hell!
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