Little known fact: Carroll Shelby actually stopped breathing three years ago. His blood cells and tissue have converted from oxygen to rage-ahol, meaning his old man rage is literally keeping him alive. As soon as something happens to mollify the old curmudgeon, he will drop dead on the spot.
@BrianEsser: Whoooooooah there little guy. Time to let the big boys talk about cars while you go play with your hot wheels.
Lancer Evo, WRX STi, hell even any Honda with a B18 or a KA24 swap. These can all be very fast, high powered performance cars. And for less than the $150k that this monstrosity of a Mustang costs. Really, it's a Mustang GT with a supercharger, some bodywork, and the Shelby name. It's worth $50k tops. You'd be better off building it yourself than buying the overpaid version from Shelby. And I'd still rather drive a hopped up Lancer Evo.
@elwood: I'll forgive your ignorance, since you know nothing of me or my automotive experience. Fast is different to every person, sure you can dump 30k into a honda and make it 'fast'. I can spend 10k on a LS1 F-body and most likely still beat you. Your point? This car isn't meant for the rice boy set or even the daily mustang owner. It's aimed for guys who can drop 150k on a ride and not think about it.
As for my knowledge. I have a lil ol' S10 pickem up truck that would slaughter your little EVO in a straight line (Built for drag). I have MAYBE $7,000 total (including the price of the truck).
You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.
Now run along and let those who actually know what fast is talk. You have fun with your wind up toy cars that cost twice as much.
@elwood: I agree. I am a Ford guy and I love my Mustang, but I can't imagine doing this to it. I guess its because I'm not a straight-liner, but this just seems really outrageous for what it is. $50k seems about right. The other $100k is for the two names that are on it.
@BrianEsser: Here's the deal, dude: there's more to fast that drag racing.
I'm not gonna pretend that anything can beat American muscle in dollars-for-ET.
...but if we get onto a real race track (like, one with left and right turns), or even a windy mountain road, all the smallblock + spooled 4.56:1 9" rearend in the world isn't going to help.
Usually, I wouldn't be one to critique > $100k buying decisions, but $150k for a Mustang drag car is really really stupid.
Also: please tell me you see the irony in spouting off about a $7k S-10 and then bringing up the "polished turd" argument.
@Mad_Science: Your arguement is like laughing at a NFL player cause you can beat him at baseball.
And I can same the same for anything wearing a Honda, Mitsu or Nissan badge along with many others. My point was for what it takes to make those toy cars fast, you can go just as fast, if not faster for much less.
Yeah, my little turd $7,000 S10 that would embarrass' most euro trash and all but the meanest factory tuner cars coming from Japan and the likes. Sorry, I don't see the point in pissing away money to do something I can do for less for cheaper. Laugh at me all you want, but when your girlfriend asks why that pickup truck just dusted your fancy little rice rocket, bet it's not funny then.
@Mad_Science: "Mustangs at $150k are pretty retarded, particularly considering what you could build for that kind of money."
Or buy a ZR1 and make a couch out of the cash you've got left over... pretty sure you wouldn't have to do anything to it in order to smoke this thing in the twisties.
@BrianEsser: No, it's more like you're arguing that an NFL Offensive tackle is the best athlete in the world.
The rest of us are pointing out that there's more to being a great athlete than pushing hard for 5 seconds at a time. Yes, the lineman will beat the snot out of a decathlete in a very narrow contest. A decathlete would be the better all-around performer.
Just like our NFL friend, the Shelby Mustang is overvalued for the limited utility it offers.
I agree that building a drag car out of most small-displacement imports is a bit silly.
...but if you're going for all-around performance (not just straight line), it's going to cost about the same to build a Mustang that handles as a 4-banger that has power.
Are you retards really arguing about this car in the twisties. I'm no genius. Hell, I'm borderline retarded myself. But last time I checked, this is a street legal DRAG RACER. No shit it won't do anything in the twisties.
@GTX141: No, actually, this little pissing match started when BrianEsser said he'd rather drive this than some "pussy 'performance' 4-cylinder", and suggested that one would be a fool to modify or attempt to speed up anything other than a straight-line V8-powered drag car.
...to which we pointed out there might be other forms of motorsport worth doing.
That said, a $150k Mustang is still retarded. I'm pretty sure that 6-second street-legal 'Vette cost less than $150k to build.
@EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD: This whole gay comment pissing match is trolling on an epic level and defies the very nature of jalop.
we love ridiculous fast cars that you build yourself as well as that which come from the factory-- who cares how many cylinders it has-- hell, it doesn't need to have cylinders as long as it burns gas or diesel and we can wrench on it.
But the principle here is that I would much rather waste my money on a Roush 427R TrakPak than this thing. Damn the extra 300hp. I'll just upgrade to an Autorotor blower with the extra what, 100k I save? Top gear proved that the 427R trakpak was faster than the GT500 because it actually had work done to the suspension... number one thing wrong with shelbys.
@engineerd - fighting zombies one sign at a time: Hey, I'm still in college and I got some lulz out of dropping some religious sexual profanity in the Rally-america thread. It's all about proper application.
At first I thought it was named for the 1901 Nobel laureate in literature, Sully Prudhomme. Now that would have been an interesting version of the 'Stang.
Instead, we get another variant of the 'Stang based on a famous racer (actually, two). While it looks like it is pretty bad ass, I'm not sure I would spend $150k for it.
@MustangMike: You probably wouldn't notice a difference. My uncle's '69 RS/SS put out about 500 at the rear wheels from a stroked 396 and normal roads felt like ice.
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I've come to expect moar from you, Carroll.
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Mustangs at $20-something-k are great performance fun.
Mustangs at $150k are pretty retarded, particularly considering what you could build for that kind of money.
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Lancer Evo, WRX STi, hell even any Honda with a B18 or a KA24 swap. These can all be very fast, high powered performance cars. And for less than the $150k that this monstrosity of a Mustang costs. Really, it's a Mustang GT with a supercharger, some bodywork, and the Shelby name. It's worth $50k tops. You'd be better off building it yourself than buying the overpaid version from Shelby. And I'd still rather drive a hopped up Lancer Evo.
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As for my knowledge. I have a lil ol' S10 pickem up truck that would slaughter your little EVO in a straight line (Built for drag). I have MAYBE $7,000 total (including the price of the truck).
You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.
Now run along and let those who actually know what fast is talk. You have fun with your wind up toy cars that cost twice as much.
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I'm not gonna pretend that anything can beat American muscle in dollars-for-ET.
...but if we get onto a real race track (like, one with left and right turns), or even a windy mountain road, all the smallblock + spooled 4.56:1 9" rearend in the world isn't going to help.
Usually, I wouldn't be one to critique > $100k buying decisions, but $150k for a Mustang drag car is really really stupid.
Also: please tell me you see the irony in spouting off about a $7k S-10 and then bringing up the "polished turd" argument.
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And I can same the same for anything wearing a Honda, Mitsu or Nissan badge along with many others. My point was for what it takes to make those toy cars fast, you can go just as fast, if not faster for much less.
Yeah, my little turd $7,000 S10 that would embarrass' most euro trash and all but the meanest factory tuner cars coming from Japan and the likes. Sorry, I don't see the point in pissing away money to do something I can do for less for cheaper. Laugh at me all you want, but when your girlfriend asks why that pickup truck just dusted your fancy little rice rocket, bet it's not funny then.
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Or buy a ZR1 and make a couch out of the cash you've got left over... pretty sure you wouldn't have to do anything to it in order to smoke this thing in the twisties.
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The rest of us are pointing out that there's more to being a great athlete than pushing hard for 5 seconds at a time. Yes, the lineman will beat the snot out of a decathlete in a very narrow contest. A decathlete would be the better all-around performer.
Just like our NFL friend, the Shelby Mustang is overvalued for the limited utility it offers.
I agree that building a drag car out of most small-displacement imports is a bit silly.
...but if you're going for all-around performance (not just straight line), it's going to cost about the same to build a Mustang that handles as a 4-banger that has power.
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Are you retards really arguing about this car in the twisties. I'm no genius. Hell, I'm borderline retarded myself. But last time I checked, this is a street legal DRAG RACER. No shit it won't do anything in the twisties.
Trolls, all of ya.
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...to which we pointed out there might be other forms of motorsport worth doing.
That said, a $150k Mustang is still retarded. I'm pretty sure that 6-second street-legal 'Vette cost less than $150k to build.
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we love ridiculous fast cars that you build yourself as well as that which come from the factory-- who cares how many cylinders it has-- hell, it doesn't need to have cylinders as long as it burns gas or diesel and we can wrench on it.
But the principle here is that I would much rather waste my money on a Roush 427R TrakPak than this thing. Damn the extra 300hp. I'll just upgrade to an Autorotor blower with the extra what, 100k I save? Top gear proved that the 427R trakpak was faster than the GT500 because it actually had work done to the suspension... number one thing wrong with shelbys.
Part of the essence of jalop is building it.
making it fast.
fuck, I've been trolled.
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Those opportunities are few and far between, though.
When you're old you can drop profanity no matter what or where and people just laugh.
"Oh, that silly old man. I guess when you're 80 you can say whatever you want."
50 more years.
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I just watched "the wizard" the other day and I laughed so hard.
Ever seen the Angry Nintendo Nerd's review of the Nintendo Power Glove? It's AWFUL.
But apparently you can actually manage the aircraft carrier landings in top gun with it.
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Retch.
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Instead, we get another variant of the 'Stang based on a famous racer (actually, two). While it looks like it is pretty bad ass, I'm not sure I would spend $150k for it.
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