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F1Morgan
09/24/09

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I think using a giant behemoth for a daily driver is irresponsible, I am not a hippy, I worked in F1 so no gas saver here, but I think at some point everyone will have to accept that driving that around when you only need a small car is going to help everyone out. I actually bought a new Civic to commute in because it was kind of fun to drive and I fill up every week and a half, using the A/C all the time. I can see if you live in a heavy snow area it is nice to have so weight, but give me an F250 any day. I guess I think trying to live out a USA world domination military fantasy with a glorified Tahoe is bonkers...
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quayzar
09/25/09

@F1Morgan: I can't agree more. But there is more to it than that. I find there are a lot of people buying cars that are to big for them to be able to drive properly. As far as I see it, if you can parallel park it you can drive it and I have yet to find a Hummer H2, or H3 driver that can park... well anywhere. I didn't include the original because I saw one parked correctly once. Blew my mind.
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JoeKhurr
09/24/09

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It's a garbage company, the H2 is a Tahoe with a plastichrome body kit, and it's a big neon sign reading "stereotype". This is a poorly conceived vehicle, the styling and exterior body parts are bloated and frail, and it completely fails to live up to its predecessor, (which unironically isn't thought of when someone mentions "Hummer" anymore).
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@JoeKhurr: The original Hummer was a purpose-built vehicle that was very, very good at what it was designed to do, which was to go just about anywhere on Earth military people might be asked to go. I drove a few of them in the Army, and I must admit that as a passenger vehicle, it's a damned good Army truck.

The newer models, on the other hand, were poser-mobiles from the get-go. They were put out there for people who think Chevy Tahoes are too wussy for them, but at the same time, want something that rides a little nicer than an Army truck. The main thing here is to look like a Hummer, not necessarily be one.
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Flathead Smith
09/24/09

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I have an Uncle that has two H2s. One for him, and one for his wife. I admire him.
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vdiddy210
09/24/09

@Flathead Smith Prefers the Days of Danger: as do i.

you should be able to drive whatever you want to and be free of persecution. if people actually realized hybrids might not be all they're cracked up to be we wouldn't put prius' on such a high pedestal
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John Krewson
09/24/09

@vdiddy210: So "you should be able to drive whatever you want to and be free of persecution unless you drive a Prius?"
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@vdiddy210: The Prius offers something I want that is increasingly rare these days - a hatchback. I kind of want one that isn't the smallest, cheapest, most Spartan tin-can around, isn't a minivan, isn't a "crossover," and isn't a "sports hatch," whatever that is. It's usually $3K to $5 more expensive, and gets underwhelming gas mileage. If I have to spend $20,000+ to get a reasonably comfortable hatchback, I might as well get one that also gets 55 MPG and has that Good Housekeeping seal...er...Toyota badge on the nose.
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vdiddy210
09/25/09

@John Krewson: i'm sorry, reading comprehension must have missed you as a child. never did i say you can't drive a prius. i used prius as a moniker for hybrids (much like kleenex) in fact, if you actually took time to read what i wrote, i was actually advocating for everyone to be able to drive whatever they fancied, whether it prius hummer bentley or geo

so please, read and be adult about it next time
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vdiddy210
09/25/09

@HurtsSoGood: and that is completely your decision.
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Youdunnome2
09/24/09

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There's a guy at my old job who has a black and chrome H2 with personalized plates.

They read 8MPG.
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@Youdunnome2: There was an H3 rolling around near work that said "BC 04." I don't see it much anymore; I wonder if he got embarrassed to be driving around in a mini-Hummer with a vanity plate that doubled as a campaign sticker for the worst President ever.
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mentir
09/24/09

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"While we’re not sure of the statistical merit of such a small study..."

Statistical significance and selection-bias aside, I think we can all agree that being stuck in the left lane behind an H2 or a Prius sucks to the same degree.
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mr_dude
09/24/09

@mentir: It makes a huge difference on two wheels. Also I hypothesize fewer Prius owners use the 1 lane.
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

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Yep. And I drive a Volvo, so I must support terrorism.

Actually, I apparently support Deer There, Yam Ram, POLAЯ, and company. Looks like I'm gonna get about 24 out of this tank so far.

Finally, because nobody has said it yet, where's Sarah Palin's H2?
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FTGDWolverineEdition'09
09/24/09

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Does this view still count if you drive a 100MPG Hummer?
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smalleyxb122
09/24/09

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Ooh, ooh! Next can we find out what the predominant political leanings are of Prius owners?
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Deartháir II
09/24/09

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Where I come from, being conservative automatically means you're delusional...
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CypressCarNut
09/24/09

@Deartháir II: The Return:"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." - Sir Winston Churchill
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ThreeLitre
09/24/09

@Deartháir II: The Return: I think I kind of always assumed that to a degree, too...
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

@CypressCarNut: Applies nicely to economics, in a way - but economic liberalism is today a basic tenet of fiscal conservatism. Whee!
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Alfisted
09/24/09

@Deartháir II: The Return: Crazy enough to cut down a tree that blocks your garage?
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Maymar
09/24/09

@Deartháir II: The Return: Are you in one of the, what, two ridings that didn't vote Conservative?
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CypressCarNut
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: We need liber-conservatarianism... fiscal responsibility, Strong foreign policy, and common sense but liberal social policy.
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Deartháir II
09/24/09

@CypressCarNut: (Keep in mind, I'm a Canadian. What we call a "conservative", Americans call a "hippie". So I'm speaking of a conservative in the WAY OFF TO THE RIGHT American sense.)

fiscal responsibility, Strong foreign policy, and common sense but liberal social policy

I agree. That's why I used to vote for the Big-L Liberal party up here, back when they didn't suck. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal.

Now, we have the Big-L Conservative party in power. Socially conservative, fiscally retarded.
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beercheck
09/24/09

@CypressCarNut: Yeah. I keep throwing those parties, but nobody ever shows up but infreakinsane winguts.
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

@Deartháir II: The Return: Hey, Big L was a hell of a man. Despite that, I agree with you - give people and corporations the right to do what they want as long as it's with their own property, etc.
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Jes St.Lawrence
09/24/09

@CypressCarNut: No. Not Sir Winston Churchill. In fact, a common internet myth.

So now you're back to delusional.
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@CypressCarNut: Winston Churchill was an unrecoverable alcoholic who had the good political fortune to be PM after Neville Chamberlain. I also heard he could give a good speech.
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CypressCarNut
09/25/09

@HurtsSoGood: And JFK was a painkiller drug addict who had the political fortune to be the son of Joe Kennedy. I also heard he could give a good speech.
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SirNotAppearing
09/24/09

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There's a key component missing in Journal of Consumer Research's paper: they never demonstrate that Hummer owners are not actually moral protagonists who defend American national ideals.
Perhaps Hummer owners are not delusional; the authors of the Journal are simply jealous of their moral and fiscal superiority.
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beercheck
09/24/09

@SirNotAppearing II: Electric Boogaloo: And their huge penises!
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skaycog
09/24/09

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This study needs more research. I have friends who have guns, guts and are gas guzzlers. None of them own a Hummer.
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mr_dude
09/24/09

@skaycog: Buddhist monks dress funny these days.
Too soon?

It's a one-way implication. Hummer - conservative doesn't mean conservative - hummer.
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skaycog
09/24/09

@mr_dude:
Exactly! ;)
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dolo54 blows minds and blows engines!
09/24/09

@skaycog: I had 3 buddies who dies in a freak gasoline fight accident. Be careful!
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

@mr_dude: I followed a Yukon XL with entirely-serious "Obama's Last Day" and "Palin 2012" stickers part of the way home today. I get not liking Obama, but I don't understand why anyone would relish the idea of another four years of Bush, sans every last bit of competence he displayed.

Anyway, it's just a longer H2 underneath, and that was my original point.
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Mike the Dog is sitting by the door with a pair of cow slippers, and a very sad face.
09/24/09

@skaycog: Hey, I've got guns, a gut and a gas-guzzler, and I'm not even a conservative!
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: Yes, smarter Republicans, please!

To paraphrase what our Canadian friend said upthread, I used to vote Republican back when they didn't suck. There was once a time (you 20-somethings wouldn't know about this) when the Republican Party actually had smart people running it, and they tried like hell to hide their then very small Sarah Palin wing in election years.

The epiphany for me came in 1998, and I'll give you just one guess what was going on in 1998.
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Timtoolman, sporadically speaking
09/24/09

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Doesn't really surprise me. Kind of in the vein of Ahnold, the Bahbawean.

What I've always found odd is how the liberal left promotes women's rights and free speech, but favors gun control over the rights of gun owners.
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kleinlowe
09/24/09

@Timtoolman, still looking for work.: 'Gun' is to liberal as 'gay' is to conservative.
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

@kleinlowe: A fair generalisation. The Log Cabin Republicans would be happy to prove you wrong, of course, but they're a tolerant minority in an oppressive majority, just like gun-owning Democrats.

Me, I love cock, and I respect your right to own and fire whatever the hell you want as long as it's locked up when you ain't usin' it so your kids and/or burglars can't get it. I enjoy confusing people; it's a hobby of mine.
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: I don't care what anyone does (within reason).
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Sloop_John_B
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: Heh. Well said and thanks for the laugh.
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jodark
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: Why should you care if my gun is locked up or not? Its none of your business where I keep it. Just like its none of my business where you put your cock on your bedroom.
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MushyHeirloom
09/24/09

@jodark: I don't want your kids finding and playing with it. That's all, really. If burglars steal it, hey, they would've gotten it somehow anyway, and it's not my loss. I do care about other peoples' kids getting their (body parts) blown off because they thought it would be a neat toy.

And you know how kids are. You can tell 'em no, and it'll be forbidden fruit.

That's about it. If you don't have anyone who's likely to play with it and/or take it to do something violent, I'd support you if you left it, loaded, on your nightstand.
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jodark
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: That happens to children who aren't taught proper gun safety. Out in the redneck back-country (aka fly-over-country) most kids get their very own .22 when they are about 6 or 7. They are given the most strict of instructions on how to handle it and the fear of God is put into them regarding the consquences of mishandling it. Rarely do they hurt themselves, anyone or anything except the local squirl population.

And yes, I do sleep with a loaded gun in an open safe that is next to my bed. I close it when I leave, because I choose to, not because the law requires it. The government shouldn't be legislating what I do with a Glock in my own home, just like it shouldn't be legislating your cock.
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John Krewson
09/24/09

@FP: Your Volvo is awesome! Anyway: Wait, wait, are we talking about the cock or the gun here?
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@Timtoolman, still looking for work.: It's a public safety thing.
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@FP: Your Volvo is a POS! Anyway: You're only confusing the idiot NRA gun-bunnies here. Like I said, it's a public safety thing. The NRA not only disagrees, but sides with the idiots. The confusion arises from their stance that gun locks somehow equate to totalitarianism.
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@jodark: It becomes my business when one of your kids brings it to school, or the playground, or McDonald's. Gun ownership carries with it certain responsibilities. Of course, the "R" word has six syllables, so I wouldn't expect you to understand what it means.
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HurtsSoGood
09/25/09

@jodark: Ok, my car has non-functioning brakes. I might take it out on the road anyway when I finish this twelve-pack of beer. How do you feel about my right to do that?
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TimTim
09/24/09

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As far as surveys go, I think 20 interviewees is a rather small sampling... but in this case, I'm surprised it took so many.
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Alfisted
09/24/09

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Somewhat ironically, the same study found that, after having been presented with a Hummer (and the associated wedding ring), female Hummer drivers became far less likely to respond in kind.
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Prawo Jazdy and The Velocity Trumpets: I miss Deartháir II
09/24/09

@Alfisted: I'm going to send you a case of your choice of beverage. What will I be sending and where?
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leavethegun-takethecannoli
09/24/09

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"Conservatives Love Hummers"

There- I fixed it.
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Joshuman
09/24/09

@leavethegun-takethecannoli: Don't we all?
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SirNotAppearing
09/24/09

@Joshman Raffles Avenue: What's got two thumbs and loves hummers?
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