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Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
12/23/08

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This is why I am buying that 1949 Hotchkiss-Grégoire I always wanted. I want to see some high school kid borrowing one of those babies to punk me!

Otherwise, great prank.
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DoctorNine
12/22/08

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Now this here is a perfect example of why cannibalism should be made legal. Kids bother you? Cook and eat them. They're still tender at that age, and the athletic ones aren't too fatty. A little pit, some wood chips, and presto! Long pig!
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adp113
12/22/08

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This is great. Million dollar tech hacked by a few kids and photoshop, no doubt a bootleg version of PS. I love these politicos that tell us the technology is rock solid. Be very worried about politicos and definitive statements
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mechimike
12/23/08

@adp113: Also beware anytime any politician utters the phrase "Common Sense", because in all likelihood the drivel that spews forth from his or her mouth afterwards is typically anything but.

I also watch out for the terms "bi-partisan" and "change".

Consti- what? Indeed. Here's a tip for y'all: take that $600 rebate check you got in the mail last summer and go buy yourself a firearm. Make sure you pay cash for said weapon. The anti-2nd folks will be out en force soon.
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alexcassidy
12/22/08

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I'd think the smarter move would be to pull this prank on the city-council officials who approved the cameras in a given area (For bonus points, police chiefs and local investigative journalists). Just a thought...
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MushyHeirloom
12/22/08

@alexcassidy: Very true. Always, always, always relate your pranks to the people who enable you to pull them.
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Van Sarockin, rogue trebuchet
12/22/08

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See. I told you it wasn't me. I was at home. Playing cards. With the mayor and the Chief of Police. So there.
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Novaload
12/22/08

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Damn kids!
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something_unique_and_descriptive
12/22/08

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This is just stupid, it's annoying but harmless to the victim and potentially life changing if the perpetrator gets caught.

The victim gets a ticket, takes it to court and says "check the registration dumbass, I drive a [insert car], that's a teal Civic". If the kids pulling the trick get pulled over with the fake plate in place... ohhhh, they're looking at a world of hurt.
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HurtsSoGood
12/22/08

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Gross stupidity at its finest. All I would have to do is prove that I do not, in fact, own a green 2003 Ford Focus (something that ought to be fairly easy to do), and I'm through with the ticket. Next, I would go through the school's parking permit records, find the culprit, and have his ass expelled. That'll put a stop to this sort of thing pretty quick.
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Jim-Bob
12/22/08

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Yet another reason they should be declared Unconstitutional. The Constitution provides for a right to face your accuser, which you can never do with a speed camera. The proof should be on the police to show that the person charged was in possession of and operating the vehicle in question, not on the accused to prove that they were not. Since there is no proof of who the operator was, there should be no ability to prosecute the recipient of the fine.
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longdx
12/22/08

Agreed, as a former police officer who truly despises these devices. The jurisdiction gets around that little annoying Constitutional technicality but "only" instituting fines on the "offending party". As an adise, I always recommended people who lived in these areas to buy the camera defeating spray on their license plates.(seen in the back on C&D, Automobile, etc)
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alexcassidy
12/22/08

@longdx: In your experience, do those actually work? Very interested in the idea but I've heard rumblings that they don't and I'd wanna know first...
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MrEvil
12/22/08

@alexcassidy: According to Mythbusters the sprays don't work. Of course they had the guy FROM the camera company there with a DSLR on a tripod. I don't think they have a Canon Rebel SLR in that metal box. So I really do think the mythbusters' test was a bit rigged.
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something_unique_and_descriptive
12/22/08

@MrEvil: Oh, it was way beyond a Rebel, that was a full on Nikon D3 rig... the guy claims that's what they put in all their systems, which means if they ever install one within 50 miles of where I live, I'm getting a new camera if you know what I mean.
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Jakuub
12/22/08

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It's all fun and $40 fees until someone gets charged with second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument, which is a felony.
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Andrew Didorosi
12/22/08

@Jakuub: Then it's hilarious!
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Dr. H. F. Danger
12/22/08

@Andrew Didorosi: WOOOHOOO!
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Papercutninja
12/22/08

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I never woulda thought of this. But boy are those kids brilliant.
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jbownsabmw- Koopas Beware
12/22/08

@Papercutninja: No they are not. The camera takes a picture of their car. When the person receiving the fine complains and demands proof, they get the picture. "That's not my car, but Timmy Jenkins, who hates me, has that exact make and model."

Stupid kids.
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Neener
12/22/08

@jbownsabmw but still wants GM to survive: would never hold up in court unless there was irrefutable evidence that it was Tim Jenkins' car and that it was Tim Jenkins driving.

I knew a Tim Jenkins in HS, he drove a 90's Z24 caviler...wonder what he's doing now.
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theeastbaykid
12/22/08

@Neener: Driving a Honda?
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Ash78, cube farmer
12/22/08

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I'm actually pleased by this, in a roundabout way. Every potential shortcoming of these cameras might be one step closer to their demise.

Or, knowing government, one step closer to a multi-million-dollar revamp of the technology.
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Landau_Calrissian loves our President Camacho.
12/22/08

@The Name's Ash78, Housewares: You can get around these ridiculous cameras (at least stoplight cameras in Virginia) by going to traffic court and saying it wasn't you driving the car. They can't ticket a car for a moving violation, only a human driver. And the stoplight ones give you a ticket even if the trunk of your car is in frame when the light changes. Ridiculous, and not even illegal. They actually had to remove them by court order for a year because the crooked VA government was paying the contractor (Lockheed I think) based on how much ticket revenue was generated. Conflict of interest?
I hate greedy money-grubbing local governments worst of all.
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weatherman
12/22/08

@The Name's Ash78, Housewares: nah. The contractor has no incentive to change the system and neither does the government. As long as it's the responsibility of the victim to go to court and prove that they didn't do it, they'll continue to just let it happen. People will get tickets, half of them will pay them just so they don't have to go down to the court house, the other half will go to the courthouse and probably still have to pay because the traffic court is a rubberstamp for the police (at least in real criminal court you have the right to an attorney) and 1/10th the people will ultimately get off from having to pay their ticket. The cost of those 10% is minimal compared to the cost and revenue generated by these automated systems.
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theeastbaykid
12/22/08

@Landau_Calrissian: In CA the stoplight cameras take an amazingly clear picture of the driver in addition to the one of the license plate. 'Course there was that guy in Germany that beat that loophole: [gizmodo.com]
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Landau_Calrissian loves our President Camacho.
12/22/08

@theeastbaykid: It's not even really a loophole I was talking about, there are lots of valid reasons the back of your car could be in an intersection after the light changes that the system doesn't address. They can get off their lazy asses and have some humans ticket me, or I won't pay.
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chrismcdowell25
12/22/08

@Landau_Calrissian:

I think there are other way's to lower red light deaths. Most people probably run a red light just after it changes. If they add a delay from when one person's turns red to when the other person's green I think it would help keep people out of the intersection for when people run the light. Also maybe work on a system so people are not hitting red light after red light. Camera's will only ticket people when they commit the crime they probably don't really help prevent it in the best possible way. They do make more money than the other way's though.
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Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
12/23/08

@chrismcdowell25: The last red light ticket I got was because some fucktard in a Ford Expedition was inches away from my rear wheel. Being on a 125cc Scooter I felt a mite intimidated, and since he wasn't stopping for yellow I didn't either.

Could have probably won it in court (good pictures) but I really don't have three hours to spend to save fifty bucks. Besides, lord knows NYC needs the money!
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